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[SyberSmoke]

Bryan Ekman, on 19 November 2011 - 09:01 PM, said:

Movie rights are owned by another company all together.

This is probably not a hint just a simplification since there was in the past a BattleTech TV series. So the rights to any TV and Film representation of the IP are in the hands of some other company.

[laserhawk]

as i started playing the boardgame then went to pen and paper then to mechwarrior 1 then2 all the way to mw4 and then to mw mercs this is how i remember things fasa started the ball and stayed with it up to mw3 as a main influnce but in mw2 pirria games got involved then in mw3 pirraha jioned up with microsoft to do it coming out of that microsoft came out with mw4 supported by wizkids but in 2005 are 04 microsoft gave up mw4 support and closed down all future devlopment of the mw advancment smith took up all rights in order to restart the series back up bring out not mw5 but as they called it mechwarrior taking in all the old bring it up with the new grapics and engine only to get shelved by the japansee who still claim some of the mechs were stolen from one of the robotech are gundam anim thank you hope this helps yes some facts may not be to date but as a lifer in mw this is the way i remember it

[jojobear]

I am not a lawyer. Just passing the news along.

A Japanese court ruled in 2002 that Macross and all of its intellectual property are owned by Big West. This would include the likenesses of Roy Fokker, Lynn Minmei, Charon's battle pod (our Marauder), the Tomahawk MK.VI (our Warhammer), and other Unseens.

HG could, at best, claim to own the following:
-The "Robotech" storyline, character names, plot, novels, and any other original content they themselves created.
-The right to use the original TV animation of SDF Macross as part of "Robotech".
-The right to merchandise the original TV animation of SDF Macross itself as well as Macross: Do You Remember Love.

The Unseens themselves do not infringe on Hamony Gold's rights. They infringe on Big West's rights.

This is why HG re-designs everything with their new robotech stuff. They know they would get sued should they use Macross likenesses in any new medium. All they can use is stock-footage from the original Macross show.

HG stamps their feet and sends nasty letters, but they know that's about all they can do. It's Big West who you'd need to get permission from to use the Unseens.

[Havoc2]

My biggest fear (which has come true via MW4) is that if anyone attempts to reboot or re-do the series and meets with any success, MS will take control of the next installment and completely fawk it up, and then refuse to release the license for another 10 years.

[Woodstock]

The advantage of the F2P model is that there will hopefully not BE a next instalment!

They will continue to patch and add content ...progressing the timeline year by year. Even upgrading the graphics etc (Like EvE did)

Probably why they did not call it MW 5

Well that and it is online

[Daijiro]

This unseen business needs to be sorted out. Its doing serious damage to the franchise and is probably going to continue doing damage for a while yet. Its probably the reason why its taken so long for a new mechwarrior to be release

[Adridos]

Daijiro, on 18 May 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

This unseen business needs to be sorted out. Its doing serious damage to the franchise and is probably going to continue doing damage for a while yet. Its probably the reason why its taken so long for a new mechwarrior to be release

1st: No, the Sony and M$ was. They refused to let MW 5 onto their pretious consoles. Too hard for monkeys playing on them, they said (not aimed at console players, but stupid marketing strategies suiting games for the actual trend).

2nd: This is a pretty big necro, there is already a newer thread about this isue.

[Deathz Jester]

Adridos, on 18 May 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

1st: No, the Sony and M$ was. They refused to let MW 5 onto their pretious consoles. Too hard for monkeys playing on them, they said (not aimed at console players, but stupid marketing strategies suiting games for the actual trend).

2nd: This is a pretty big necro, there is already a newer thread about this isue.

I happen to play the xbox quite a bit, and i resent you being an ignorant elitist arse

[Krivvan]

Adridos, on 18 May 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

1st: No, the Sony and M$ was. They refused to let MW 5 onto their pretious consoles. Too hard for monkeys playing on them, they said (not aimed at console players, but stupid marketing strategies suiting games for the actual trend).

Chromehounds?

[Felicitatem Parco]

Um... I read the MW5 project was scrapped because Investors wouldn't fund a strategic sim game that was going to Xbox360 but not PS3 (because Microsoft wouldn't allow a PS3 version to exist), especially during a bad economy.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 20 May 2012 - 11:16 PM.

[Kargush]

Bryan Ekman, on 19 November 2011 - 09:01 PM, said:

Movie rights are owned by another company all together.

Yes, leave us hanging, why don't you?

Tease.

[GrimJim]

Bryan Ekman, on 19 November 2011 - 09:01 PM, said:

Movie rights are owned by another company all together.

Who owns the movie rights?

(I know it could be multiple production companies & even more if they created something when it comes to distribution....)

[FinnMcKool]

can Could PGI introduce new "Lore" ?

Like could my Merc unit do so well in game that we get a place in the History of Mechwarrior ?
could they introduce a new before unknown "Mech"

ECT ect ect...........

[Victor Morson]

Giving rights without clauses of reversion down the line can cause all kinds of chaos and almost always leads to long term regrets from the original rights holders; just look at Marvel (now Disney) and the fact that several major franchises are held onto by other studios that'll do anything to death grip them.

Actually the irony is what would get them back under one roof (and about the only thing) is if one part of the IP tanks, badly, then someone shows interest in trying to revive it: i.e. what happened to get Hulk back to Marvel.

In other words if, say, Catalyst catastrophically tanked the franchise and Smith & Tinker decided to resurrect it, they might have a chance to repurchase rights. I can safely say this is not a good scenario, however, since it's rare for this to work out and the IP to avoid crash & burn in the process: It's better we continue the delicate copyright dance we have going than risk that.

Edited by Victor Morson, 21 May 2012 - 09:05 PM.

[Steinar Bergstol]

Obviously what we need to get this whole mess with who has the rights to what sorted out is that some filthy rich Battletech/Mechwarrior fan needs to buy up _all_ the companies which holds the rights to anything that has even the remotest connection with Battletech, then transfer all these rights into one company. Easy.

Anyone out there who's a secret bazillionaire wanna take responsibility for getting this done?

[Quentin Yatoki]

FinnMcKool, on 21 May 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

can Could PGI introduce new "Lore" ?

Like could my Merc unit do so well in game that we get a place in the History of Mechwarrior ?
could they introduce a new before unknown "Mech"

ECT ect ect...........

IIRC, MWO is techically not considered canon...the whole part about planets changing hands differently then they have in canon. So no.