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#21 LauLiao

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 12:19 PM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:


Read my thread. Plenty of evidence. Sorry not many meme posters though you will actually have to read.


You mean your anecdote from a tournament weekend? Yeah that's "evidence".

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 12:19 PM

View PostLauLiao, on 30 August 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:


Well that's because they're clever and since there's tags now that would allow us to easily identify a sync dropping group, they have ALL created alt accounts without tags JUST so they can roflstomp pugs don'tcha know?

Conspiracy theorize much? :)

#23 Mcgral18

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 12:20 PM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:


Read my thread. Plenty of evidence. Sorry not many meme posters though you will actually have to read.


I don't suppose actual tests have been done? Getting a few merc corps together and dropping 50+ at the same time?

Note how many end up in the same match, let alone the same side.

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 12:21 PM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 30 August 2014 - 12:19 PM, said:

Conspiracy theorize much? :)


I would have used my Sarcasm tag, but I'm undercover with the rest of them.

#25 Roland

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 12:30 PM

View PostThrudvangar, on 30 August 2014 - 11:50 AM, said:

trying to level the third Raven..... so far 6 losses in a row, all stomps 1:12 within 3 minutes!

always looked like this:

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what the **** is wrong with your god damn matchmaker?!

Do you guys really think this is fun to play?! its getting worse and worse every damn day and this really takes the fun out of that game!

i really like to play the game WHEN its fair!

so fix that **** now or you'll lose another customer soon!

god good. im so sick about it

Dude, when you are the top score on a team of derps, then you can blame the matchmaker.

When you die with 26 damage, it means you're bad. The other folks on your team should be complaining about the matchmaker for putting you on their team.

#26 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 12:34 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 30 August 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:


Your evidence falls under "lol what" and "hahahahahahahahaha, no".


You seem to think your opinion means something to me. I have been here a long time and the first thing i learned is the experts are not here on the forums. They all left a long time ago when the self professed experts showed up. My thread was for PGI to go through and decide. I know links and self admissions would do nothing to change anyone's mind. After all this is the internet.

#27 Deathlike

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 12:36 PM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:

You seem to think your opinion means something to me. I have been here a long time and the first thing i learned is the experts are not here on the forums. They all left a long time ago when the self professed experts showed up. My thread was for PGI to go through and decide. I know links and self admissions would do nothing to change anyone's mind. After all this is the internet.


Of course it doesn't, you think you know better. That's fine. All the Internets have to do is disagree with your statement, and not even you have to care either!

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 12:52 PM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:


You seem to think your opinion means something to me.

You seem to think your opinion means something to me

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:


I have been here a long time

1yr isnt long

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:


...i learned the experts are not here on the forums. They all left a long time ago when the self professed experts showed up.

Like you?? lol

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:


My thread was for PGI to go through and decide.

decide on wat? ur opinion?? lol

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:


I know links and self admissions would do nothing to change anyone's mind..

links help.. but self admission isnt evidence cause it comes with a bias, have other run the same tests to get the same results then get back to us, so far its just ur opinion.. and as far as opinions go as you said ur self they mean nothing.


View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:


After all this is the internet.

yes, yes it is... an as such... citation are needed an proof beyond you own opinion is needed.

#29 Mcgral18

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 12:56 PM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:


Read my thread. Plenty of evidence. Sorry not many meme posters though you will actually have to read.


What page does the evidence appear? I haven't found any yet.

It's just been people debating cheating up until now.

#30 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 12:58 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 30 August 2014 - 12:36 PM, said:


Of course it doesn't, you think you know better. That's fine. All the Internets have to do is disagree with your statement, and not even you have to care either!


Actually I don't think i know better. I asked those I trust first and let them show me how its done. So in reality its not I think I am better or know better. Its a trust issue.

#31 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 01:02 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 30 August 2014 - 12:56 PM, said:


What page does the evidence appear? I haven't found any yet.

It's just been people debating cheating up until now.


That both Steiners and Mariks still hold synch drops weekly still has no bearing on it at all? That several from both factions also confirmed the practice it still doesn't happen?

I think we know you position will never change so all that left is why?

#32 Mcgral18

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 01:06 PM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:


That both Steiners and Mariks still hold synch drops weekly still has no bearing on it at all? That several from both factions also confirmed the practice it still doesn't happen?

I think we know you position will never change so all that left is why?


So, how many players drop simultaneously?

Across how many matches? How many on the same team?


You still haven't answered my question either, which page? Or shall I sift through another 20 pages of garbage.

#33 Deathlike

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 01:07 PM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 30 August 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Actually I don't think i know better. I asked those I trust first and let them show me how its done. So in reality its not I think I am better or know better. Its a trust issue.


So, you trust the underhive... OK.

I trust people that shoot with me or shoot at me and discuss stuff like this in a more logical manner and come to the same conclusions that disagree with your sentiment. The thing is, sounding like the town crier doesn't valid your point... it's good enough for the tinfoilhat crowd that doesn't actually reason things out.

I could believe in UFOs, but I'm not going to go looking into the sky and fear objects that I can't describe.

#34 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 01:18 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 30 August 2014 - 01:07 PM, said:


So, you trust the underhive... OK.

I trust people that shoot with me or shoot at me and discuss stuff like this in a more logical manner and come to the same conclusions that disagree with your sentiment. The thing is, sounding like the town crier doesn't valid your point... it's good enough for the tinfoilhat crowd that doesn't actually reason things out.

I could believe in UFOs, but I'm not going to go looking into the sky and fear objects that I can't describe.


Your assuming I ask the underhive which is not the case. The guys I ask are all top level gamers themselves. They have regular lan parties and they stock Bombay. So I like them for two good reasons. One I sail with who works for Bethesda. Not dummies by any means. Come to Maine, any summer just about any expert in any field sails here.

#35 Xarian

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 01:19 PM

The only time it's acceptable to get < 100 damage in a match is when you're piloting a non-Atlas ECM mech and humping your Assaults' legs so they don't get missiled to death, or piloting a near-pure support light using TAG, NARC, AMS, etc.

Here's why you lost:
1) You have 5 people on your team with <= 50 damage, and 5 people who barely broke 100.
2) The opposing team has 2 people with <= 50 damage, and nobody who barely broke 100.
3) Your team has 1 kill and 1 assist total. That means that the guy who got the kill (SirEpic) had help from one other player.

Don't blame matchmaking. You may have been at a disadvantage, but you were part of the problem.

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 01:27 PM

I think you guys with the tinfoil hats need to make up your minds.

Is it the PGI and the MM fault or is the sync droppers ??

Its like you guys are doing the old "don't blame the player blame the game", then when ppl point out its not the MM they blame players.

You cant have your cake an eat it too.

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 01:32 PM

View PostWarblood, on 30 August 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

I think you guys with the tinfoil hats need to make up your minds.

Is it the PGI and the MM fault or is the sync droppers ??

Its like you guys are doing the old "don't blame the player blame the game", then when ppl point out its not the MM they blame players.

You cant have your cake an eat it too.

Actually you can have a cake and eat it. Take one slice out of your cake and eat it... you still have most of the cake left!

You cannot however eat your cake and still have it.

#38 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 01:34 PM

Its not MM. When Solo que opened it was fine. Since the dropping started in earnest many matches are trash now. Like in the other thread many have seen the open admissions and mocking in chat. Its a lot more common place than the deniers care to admit.

MM is fine.

#39 Orbit Rain

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 01:34 PM

Looks like the problem with that drop is that pwner's Elo is so damn high that it has to put him with too many underhive derps to get an average Elo score. Apologies... ;)

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 01:43 PM

Hey, SirEpic here, just wanna say the problem this match had was the team fragmenting way early in the match. Usually, a solid push by all or almost all the team will be what wins a match, and in this match, that just did not happen. Enemy was up on the area with the dropship, I moved up in my AS7, one guy came, rest of team stayed back and scattered. Got rained/shot to death. I think if people just stick with assaults, and shoot what they shoot, they will have much better chances of success. (if the assault pilot is competent, that is)



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