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Doesn't Anyone Play Games For The Challenge?


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#61 MischiefSC

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 12:03 AM

I have a lot of games I play for challenge. Skyrim with over 100 mods, most designed to make it harder and play Dead is Dead and see how far you get. 7 Day to Die with a single life. Go play Banished; my wife once quipped 'I think Banished is an Algonquin word for "land of 1,000 dead settlers"'. I'm currently playing KSP with FAR, MKS/OKS, TAC and Karbonite, I've managed to get a solid refueling station into orbit and now I'm trying to get a viable and self-sustaining Mun colony that can mine and refine enough fuel to send back to it to let me launch future ships at their dry weight and refuel from recovered resources (FREE IS FREE BABY) and let me deploy larger, more complex vessels for less cost to explore the rest of the system. I'll be happy if it recoups the funds invested in 2 or 3 in game years; I've probably spent 100+ hours just getting this far. Sometimes if I'm feeling like a masochist I'll fire up Wing Commander 4 and try a playthrough with no restarts. That doesn't last long.

I'll be honest - I don't really play MW:O for the 'challenge'. I play single player games for the challenge. People are not generally challenging. Because of the nature of the human skill curve (we're about 92% average, 6% incompetent, 1.8% good, 0.2% exceptional) it is driven far more by 'how much have you played lately and how hardcore are you about playing' than anything else. You can't dial up the challenge to match or push your curve so you're either way above or way below the encounter, making your input negligible and the actual 'challenge' minimal. I've progressed about as far as I'm interesting in investing effort into MW:O. I'm as far up the curve as I'm going to get without a bigger investment in setup and self-training than I'm willing to make for the reward it would give me - the game experience would change, at best, minimally.

I play to blow stuff up with a big stompy robot and for it to be fun. That's it. Hence game balance needs to be towards 'fun'. When it's not 'fun' (like 2.0 burn time lasers or grinding terrible variants to get a good one to work) then it's bad.

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 12:13 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 31 August 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

I'm piloting a Battlemaster or an Atlas. Cause those are the Mechs I like. Until a Thunder Hawk gets released.


I play to win and love a challenge but IMO, it isn't a challenge playing an unbalanced game where the odds are stacked against your a favor.

A true challenge, would be an even engagements, on every variable possible as close as to "0" as you could get so no one yields an advantage, thus, the victor is truly the player of higher skill.

Not some fantasy land where horrible incompetent players rage and rant on the forums and nerf a particular play style (pop snipe game) to bring you down to their level and where $100+ clan mechs are superior.

Edited by E N E R G Y, 04 September 2014 - 12:15 AM.


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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:19 AM

The challenging part, is playing the game with the current [REDACTED] mechanics.

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:48 AM

View PostE N E R G Y, on 04 September 2014 - 12:13 AM, said:


I play to win and love a challenge but IMO, it isn't a challenge playing an unbalanced game where the odds are stacked against your a favor.

A true challenge, would be an even engagements, on every variable possible as close as to "0" as you could get so no one yields an advantage, thus, the victor is truly the player of higher skill.

Not some fantasy land where horrible incompetent players rage and rant on the forums and nerf a particular play style (pop snipe game) to bring you down to their level and where $100+ clan mechs are superior.

LOL Thats not a challenge. An Even chance to win is not a real challenge. A real challenge is fighting against stacked odds and winning the day. Give me the fight I Should lose, and yet win. That is bragging rights, a fight that was perfectly even... If anyone could win... whats the challenge? Where's the glory?





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