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[Marauder3D]

So just curious, do we get another patch today or are we waiting a week?

Cheers,

Mad

[Egomane]

From what I heard we will get the patch tomorrow, because of yesterday being a holiday in the united states and canada.

[Joseph Mallan]

Egomane, on 02 September 2014 - 08:53 AM, said:

From what I heard we will get the patch tomorrow, because of yesterday being a holiday in the united states and canada.

Happy Birthday Chris.
Rest in Peace Brother.

[Roland]

Egomane, on 02 September 2014 - 08:53 AM, said:

From what I heard we will get the patch tomorrow, because of yesterday being a holiday in the united states and canada.

Why would yesterday being a holiday impact their delivery of a patch today?

[Marauder3D]

Thanks for the reply Egomane!

[Bilbo]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Why would yesterday being a holiday impact their delivery of a patch today?

Don't know, but it has always been that way so it really isn't all that surprising.

[Carrie Harder]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Why would yesterday being a holiday impact their delivery of a patch today?

I dunno, maybe they would have spent yesterday doing finishing touches on it, had there not been a holiday? [PGI] works in strange ways sometimes.

Edited by Egomane, 02 September 2014 - 09:27 AM.
Insulting forms of names are still insults

[Roland]

Carrie Harder, on 02 September 2014 - 09:23 AM, said:

I dunno, maybe they would have spent yesterday doing finishing touches on it, had there not been a holiday? [PGI] works in strange ways sometimes.

You'd think that since the holiday is known about ahead of time, you'd just move those finishing touches to the friday before.

Edited by Egomane, 02 September 2014 - 09:28 AM.
quote cleaned up

[Sarlic]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Why would yesterday being a holiday impact their delivery of a patch today?

You made me laugh. Hard.

[Bishop Steiner]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Why would yesterday being a holiday impact their delivery of a patch today?

ummmm.......


Hangovers?

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:23 AM, said:

You'd think that since the holiday is known about ahead of time, you'd just move those finishing touches to the friday before.

in place of their normal Friday workload? (Or do they usually just play poker on Friday?)

[Roland]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 September 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:

in place of their normal Friday workload? (Or do they usually just play poker on Friday?)

Well, yes.. it'd be their friday workload.
I mean, for a normal software company, you don't just do "Friday stuff" on Friday. You do the stuff that needs to get done. You set up a schedule based on a deadline.

I'm not sure you mean by "their normal Friday workload".

[LT. HARDCASE]

Wait, so does this mean they won't stick to the Vindicator release schedule? The variants are supposed to go on sale for C-bills today.

PGI please... I've been hyped about getting a -1AA on the 2nd for two weeks.

Edited by Kevjack, 02 September 2014 - 09:44 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

He meant Poker!

[Zolaz]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Why would yesterday being a holiday impact their delivery of a patch today?

Because, CW.

[Bishop Steiner]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:40 AM, said:

Well, yes.. it'd be their friday workload.
I mean, for a normal software company, you don't just do "Friday stuff" on Friday. You do the stuff that needs to get done. You set up a schedule based on a deadline.

I'm not sure you mean by "their normal Friday workload".

only so many hours in a day. I imagine they worked on Friday, and did what was doable in normal working hours. Thus, it likely would have been hard to also fold in the workload for Monday on top of the normal stuff, and in effect do two days worth of workload, in one day (without authorizing unnecessary overtime, particularly on a holiday friday when people want to go home).

Essentially, I am am saying, you have to find the time somewhere to do what you say, since I am pretty sure everyone has a workload already, were they to drop their normal workload to work on the patch? We have survived the Patch being a day late, many times, I think we will make it through this crisis, too.

[Sandpit]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Why would yesterday being a holiday impact their delivery of a patch today?

PGI

[sabujo]

Even through there is a reference to the Vindicator release today (http://mwomercs.com/...t-release-dates), in the latest patch notes it was written: "Fix is being integrated into the Sept 3rd Patch."

Here: https://mwomercs.com/game/patch-notes

[Roland]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 September 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

only so many hours in a day. I imagine they worked on Friday, and did what was doable in normal working hours. Thus, it likely would have been hard to also fold in the workload for Monday on top of the normal stuff, and in effect do two days worth of workload, in one day (without authorizing unnecessary overtime, particularly on a holiday friday when people want to go home).

Essentially, I am am saying, you have to find the time somewhere to do what you say, since I am pretty sure everyone has a workload already, were they to drop their normal workload to work on the patch? We have survived the Patch being a day late, many times, I think we will make it through this crisis, too.

Ok, I think you're having a problem here caused by thinking of these two days in a vacuum.

In reality, you have a production schedule. Say you are on day x, and just delivered a patch (So this would be two weeks ago).You know that on day y (in this case, 9/2/14), you need to deliver a patch.
You schedule your two weeks of development based on this timeline, and use that amount of time to lay out what features and fixes are going in.

The fact that yesterday was a holiday doesn't really impact this, because when you scheduled the production plan, you knew at that point that the Holiday was coming.. so you should have adjusted the plan accordingly to have one day less labor.

Of course, in reality, the development cycles are most likely planned more than just two weeks ahead of time (or at least, I would hope so), but the fact remains that such things like national holidays are known ahead of time and do not necessitate pushing a release back a day.

[Bishop Steiner]

Roland, on 02 September 2014 - 09:55 AM, said:

Ok, I think you're having a problem here caused by thinking of these two days in a vacuum.

In reality, you have a production schedule. Say you are on day x, and just delivered a patch (So this would be two weeks ago).You know that on day y (in this case, 9/2/14), you need to deliver a patch.
You schedule your two weeks of development based on this timeline, and use that amount of time to lay out what features and fixes are going in.

The fact that yesterday was a holiday doesn't really impact this, because when you scheduled the production plan, you knew at that point that the Holiday was coming.. so you should have adjusted the plan accordingly to have one day less labor.

Of course, in reality, the development cycles are most likely planned more than just two weeks ahead of time (or at least, I would hope so), but the fact remains that such things like national holidays are known ahead of time and do not necessitate pushing a release back a day.

apparently, PGI feels they do, since they have done this pretty consistently. *shrugs* Deal with it, I suppose? Not a lot to be done discussing it.

[FDJustin]

Maybe they need more time. Whether or not that's because yesterday was a holiday. And yes, it can be the reason, depending on just how much work actually has to be done, compared to what the mighty schedule thinks they should be able to accomplish.