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[p4r4g0n]

Update:

The match between OMC and F8L is on tonight at 23:00 AEDT/22:00 AEST/20:00 GMT+8. Jay Z will be streaming so catch this final match of Season 1 which will be the deciding game of the Season.

Meanwhile, HPL is looking for volunteers to help out, details available here.

[p4r4g0n]

Since the final match of Season 1 will be taking place very soon, I have a question that I would like to ask the community about IS 4's Season 2.

As there will be a number of holidays over the next 4 months, I'm guessing that there will be quite a number of weeks where matches will not be able to take place due to people being away, etc.

In view of this, would you guys prefer to:

• Start Season 2 sometime in December 2014 and have it run till approximately April / May 2015 with a couple of breaks in between; OR
  
• Start Season 2 in March 2015 till approximately June 2015?

Meanwhile, just an FYI, I'm currently working on a 1 vs 1 tournament which will start sometime in December with no fixed Challenge dates / weeks i.e. players are free to schedule their Challenges at any time mutually convenient as long as all the scheduled Challenges for that particular round are completed withing the 8 week time frame. Formal announcement soon.


Other tournament modes still work in progress ... btw, I wasn't kidding about looking for volunteers as more hands will definitely be needed moving forward.

Good luck to both OMC & F8L in their match tonight ... if only Twitch didn't hate me for having such a lousy internet connection ... sigh

Edited by p4r4g0n, 06 November 2014 - 06:20 PM.

[Mycrus]

My own view (not F8L's official view - dats how we roll)

4v4 - season 1 and 2 gap should be short to keep the interest going

Consider IS heroes for season 2

Consider just tonnage instead of class+tonnage

Consider multiple teams per unit/guild - with limited rosters for each team... this will give more opportunity for bigger units to field more members

Consider format where each team gets to play all other teams at least once... maybe to decide division/group placement... spread the top teams across divisions

Allow lower ping players to use VPN... match times still in aussie Asia prime time

Come up with official HPL 4v4 logo

...

Other modes to consider - 8v8, 12v12... clam vs clam

[p4r4g0n]

Mycrus, on 06 November 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

4v4 - season 1 and 2 gap should be short to keep the interest going

Noted. Having said that, I need to hear from enough units that the Dec launch is workable.

Mycrus, on 06 November 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

Consider IS heroes for season 2

Possible after evaluating quirks but have to say that it is unlikely as these are cash only mechs. However, if the quirks work out, how does IS vs Clans sound?

Mycrus, on 06 November 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

Consider just tonnage instead of class+tonnage

Different mode, work in progress - fixed map, fixed mode, tonnage restriction only

Mycrus, on 06 November 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

Consider multiple teams per unit/guild - with limited rosters for each team... this will give more opportunity for bigger units to field more members

As long as I can put the teams from the same unit in different groups during the preliminary round, it is definitely on. However, this depends on having the numbers. If we can get 10 units to join Season 2, allowing 1 additional team from a unit is a go. I'm sure you appreciate why it would be inadvisable to have multiple teams from 1 unit in the same group during the preliminary round.

Mycrus, on 06 November 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

Consider format where each team gets to play all other teams at least once... maybe to decide division/group placement... spread the top teams across divisions

Definitely on for next season. A number of people have highlighted this.

Mycrus, on 06 November 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

Allow lower ping players to use VPN... match times still in aussie Asia prime time

Not really sure about this. I really do not think having comp players who already dominate existing tournaments doing the same here would be help grow local participation. If anything, it would likely discourage people from joining if groups of HoL and SJR's calibre start fielding teams in the HPL at this point.

Having said that, it could be possible to allow those staying in Asia / Australasia but whose pings are below the threshold to artificially inflate their ping to level the playing field. However, how do you verify location which can be spoofed using a proxy?

If there is no way to police something, I'd just as soon not put it in the eligibility criteria or rules that cannot be enforced.

Having said all that, the thought of having an invitational tournament between the best from HPL vs rest of the world has crossed my mind .... been waiting to see how things pan out along the way.

Mycrus, on 06 November 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

Come up with official HPL 4v4 logo

Jeez ... I'm still working on getting a nice website up man Any suggestions logo-wise? I'm creatively challenged on the graphic side of things as you can see from what is already in place.

Mycrus, on 06 November 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

Other modes to consider - 8v8, 12v12... clam vs clam

I'd love to do 8's or 12's but from what I'm seeing, people are having a hard time even with 4 at the moment. If the community can only field 4 teams of 8 or 12, it seems kind of pointless? However, if it is clear that the community has no problem fielding at least 8 teams of this size, I'll do it in a heart beat.

Edit: Clan vs Clan is coming, just waiting for all the mechs from the Clan pack to be released for C-Bills.

Edited by p4r4g0n, 07 November 2014 - 12:29 AM.

[Kageru Ikazuchi]

I've got some lengthy feedback that I'll provide on the HPL website. (link)

I'll also edit this to include our preferred starting time for the next season.

Give us a few weeks to practice again, and we're there.

Edited by Kageru Ikazuchi, 07 November 2014 - 07:46 PM.

[p4r4g0n]

Thanks Kageru.

Please post your unit's feedback here although you will need to register to do so. Since you're one of the unit representatives, it's probably just as well Just remembered that you already did, my bad

@Everyone

Just to be clear, I was looking towards the unit liaisons to let me know if they would prefer a Dec or Mar start as I thought they would be in a better position to evaluate whether their unit could field teams during the relevant period.

However, I have no issues if people would like to chime in with their personal thoughts or suggestions regarding the HPL as constructive feedback is appreciated.

Edited by p4r4g0n, 07 November 2014 - 12:31 AM.

[mr bear]

Hey p4r4gon, the 256th will probably be giving the 2nd season a miss.
Real life seems to have stolen most of my guys so I don't think we'll be able to do it. I'd like to but as you know, even trying to get 4 players on time and on schedule was getting difficult.

[p4r4g0n]

Sorry to hear that and absolutely understand given that I've had a few problems of my own getting back in time for some of the matches.

[Flying Fox 333]

mr bear, on 07 November 2014 - 12:30 AM, said:

Hey p4r4gon, the 256th will probably be giving the 2nd season a miss.
Real life seems to have stolen most of my guys so I don't think we'll be able to do it. I'd like to but as you know, even trying to get 4 players on time and on schedule was getting difficult.

Don't forget that a joint team is also a possible alternative. This will give your guys some options down the road. You just need to find another willing team.

[Alopex]

Thanks for the games everyone. See you in season 2.

[Kamikaze Viking]

Damn Why did I only find out about this tonight?

Congrats to OMC, I caught the last 2 matches, Great work.

I hope to bring the Isengrim Blackhearts lance to season 2!

[King Arthur IV]

congrats again. tough matches.

the focus fire is real

[p4r4g0n]

@Kamikaze Viking

Welcome to the thread ... just make sure you follow it or the HPL site for updates and announcements.

A 1v1 tournament should be announced soon .... Season 2 start date is still open for discussion

[Mycrus]

GG, OMC!

From the 2nd Best Guild in the Aussie/Asia Inner Sphere!







i'll post my youtubes once it is done processing

Edited by Mycrus, 07 November 2014 - 09:38 AM.

[Grimnar]

p4r4g0n, on 07 November 2014 - 12:04 AM, said:

Just to be clear, I was looking towards the unit liaisons to let me know if they would prefer a Dec or Mar start as I thought they would be in a better position to evaluate whether their unit could field teams during the relevant period.

I'm not waiting for our unit liaison, OMC is in for season 2 regardless of start date and drop restrictions.

p4r4g0n, on 06 November 2014 - 09:19 PM, said:

Not really sure about this. I really do not think having comp players who already dominate existing tournaments doing the same here would be help grow local participation. If anything, it would likely discourage people from joining if groups of HoL and SJR's calibre start fielding teams in the HPL at this point.

Having said that, it could be possible to allow those staying in Asia / Australasia but whose pings are below the threshold to artificially inflate their ping to level the playing field. However, how do you verify location which can be spoofed using a proxy?

If there is no way to police something, I'd just as soon not put it in the eligibility criteria or rules that cannot be enforced.

Having said all that, the thought of having an invitational tournament between the best from HPL vs rest of the world has crossed my mind .... been waiting to see how things pan out along the way.

That all makes sense and everything, not sure I agree with your inference that NA comp players would dominate

As well as being keen for the start of season 2, OMC would also like to throw our hat into the ring for anything remotely competitive involving NA teams, or euro teams, hell if teams from Mars are allowed to play we're in.


Can you tell I'm keen for more games?

[Mycrus]

after the grand final matches, we popped over to the OMC TS to congratulate our new overlords... i said "you guys kicked ass! unfortunately, it was mine!"

here is my utubes of the grand finals... fair warning, adult language... lulz...

Edited by Mycrus, 07 November 2014 - 05:12 PM.

[King Arthur IV]

p4r4g0n, on 06 November 2014 - 09:19 PM, said:

Mycrus, on 06 November 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

Consider just tonnage instead of class+tonnage

Different mode, work in progress - fixed map, fixed mode, tonnage restriction only

i think this mode would also need a minimum tonnage restriction as-well.

Edited by King Arthur IV, 08 November 2014 - 01:23 AM.

[Liveish]

Yep OMC are in.

We might be able to bring 3 to 4 teams.


Lets drop the ping rule, and open it up to anyone who can play around 11 AEST.


If yanks or euros want to play let them play


My ideas so we don't have the groups like last season is this


The Season




The Finals

[p4r4g0n]

Think I'll wait for more feedback before responding

[Mycrus]

my boar's head demands entry into season 2.