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[Xtrekker]

Shredhead, on 07 September 2014 - 09:31 AM, said:

Good. Get a taste of how we felt in all the other challenges before, being forced to play in derp queue.

Wait...if one derp finds another derp and they play together, they are suddenly not derps? Huh...I just assumed it made a bunch of derps. I guess at that point they just become {Richard Cameron}.

[Keeshu]

I pretty much focus on pugging, so the biggest problem for this challenge for me is trying to get a 4 man group. There isn't even a way in game to find other people. Normally I didn't really care, but I don't see how people are supposed to play with each other if you can't find each other. You basically have to be friends outside the game and/or go to some third party site to gather people for a group.

Luckily some friend in MWO tipped me off to NGNG's teamspeak, but MWO really does need some in-game function to find other players to group with. Otherwise, I do not think it would have been possible for me to get a full group enough times to do the challenge (especially since you must have 4. if you have 3 or 5, you can't do it).

I'm sure they'll add it eventually, since it is a pretty major feature for online team-based games. I just felt a tad irritated so I just wanted to get that off my chest.

[Alex Warden Wolf]

Lightfoot, on 05 September 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

Well PGI removed PPCs which are primary anti-LRM weapons. That's what you are seeing. Plus, if I need a long range option now it's only LRMs that I could use.

You know, the first thing you learn in playing MechWarrior is that the weapons all have a sphere of power and they function like scissors, paper, stone. So you don't nerf them for being powerful in their sphere of power, even though many players may specialize in them, because they create an interactive balancing once they are all put together.

plus add to this that LRMs are currently one of a very few IS systems that can compete with the huge range advantage that clans have...

that being said, i do pretty well in my uac kitfox

[DAYLEET]

The brainwashed tryhard have been telling me lrm are dumb and useless, were they lying?

[Training Instructor]

Saw this coming the second they announced the scoring system.

[DarthPeanut]

I did not use a single LRM this challenge personally but there is no doubt that the points system brought out the LRM boats/ narc spotters in mass numbers. Crazy amounts of them.

Primarily ran my renewed favorites triple ua5 Jager-S and Ilya (jamming is manageable and you have awesome DPS) or occasionally the Cicada-3m with some lasers if group I was in needed ECM. Worked well for me. I should have tracked it on a spread sheet for fun or screen capped each match to log it but I did not have the patience.

Got wrecked a few times of course but having Radar dep and ECM helped a lot to counter the LRM boats.

Edited by DarthPeanut, 07 September 2014 - 12:37 PM.

[Xeraphale]

I have been having more fun playing during this event that at any time. My KDR has shot up and I have been raking in the C-bills at a faster rate than ever.

But then again, I haven't been participating in it.

Edited by Xeraphale, 07 September 2014 - 12:47 PM.

[Lord Perversor]

strikebrch, on 05 September 2014 - 06:41 PM, said:

uhhmmmm rare for me to say this directly to PGI but,...... Your challenge point system is asking for LRM boat matches and guess what....it worked....no fun ....just LRM BOATS EVERYWHERE....we had the same thing on the last challenge how's that you didn't see this coming ?

4 days of this "#$ really ?!!!!

Strike with all my respecta you can come and talk to me on Ts if wish to discuss about this but.

How come last challenge you was pretty much boasting about winning easymode with a Raven 3l narcing and tagging for it and now it just make you want to quit....

[Bhelogan]

I'll say it again. Bringing LRMs yourself does not help you personally with this challenge. It helps everyone else on the team that is spotting for you. Really, just throw in LRM5 with 2 tons onto your build. You don't need a dedicated boat to give someone a spotting assist. You can run your direct fire builds, and be just fine. But your not helping anyone else on the team get points that way.

[Bront]

strikebrch, on 05 September 2014 - 06:41 PM, said:

uhhmmmm rare for me to say this directly to PGI but,...... Your challenge point system is asking for LRM boat matches and guess what....it worked....no fun ....just LRM BOATS EVERYWHERE....we had the same thing on the last challenge how's that you didn't see this coming ?

4 days of this "#$ really ?!!!!

I had my highest scoring games when I ran direct fire mechs. Tons of spotting bonuses for the other LRMers. Getting 25-30 points a game on losses.

It takes a balanced group to do well, even in these challenges. Sure, there's a little more LRM usage than normal, but honestly that happens with most of these challenges anyway. At least now it's coordinated and trying to promote teamwork.

[Bront]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 September 2014 - 09:38 AM, said:

gave me an opportunity to learn the art of NARCing and test different "extreme" NARC builds.

I should take this baby out for a spin!

[Warblood]

strikebrch, on 05 September 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

I tried guys really. But LRMs , ECM and NARC everywhere for me is just completely unplayable.

Nothing , i swear , NOTHING made me take a break from this game....but this "challenge" think?....jeshhh definetly going back in 4 days.

idk.. imo it isnt as bad as the last challenge or the challenge for that, or the challenge before that.. or the challenge befor that lol.

[Mcgral18]

Bront, on 07 September 2014 - 02:37 PM, said:

I should take this baby out for a spin!

You forgot the Ferro!

[Lunatic_Asylum]

I have dropped as a LRM, Ballistic, or even a laser 'Mech in a lance: not much is different.
People have learnt to use NARCs and Tags finally! What the initial reader sees is the result of the proper usage of such, making group play more effective.

Edited by lunticasylum, 07 September 2014 - 07:22 PM.

[Bront]

Mcgral18, on 07 September 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

You forgot the Ferro!

Let's not be silly.

[Soulscour]

DAYLEET, on 07 September 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

The brainwashed tryhard have been telling me lrm are dumb and useless, were they lying?

They are dumb. They are not useless but not as good. They are specifically good for this challenge because of the scoring system favoring tag/narc and assists.

[CN9 ACE PILOT]

Missiles are over-rated.

Step1. Learn where the missiles are coming from/bound to come from.(Spawn points don't vary that much)
Step2. Learn to always be next to cover.
Step3. Always check for UAV's (The amount of people that complain about "LurmsOP" and don't look for UAV's is staggering)
Step4. Take cover
Step5. Enjoy the sounds of splashing missiles on walls.

I had no issues with this event other than having a hard time finding a group. So as our ancestors would say, "Get good I guess".

[Soulscour]

CN9 ACE PILOT, on 07 September 2014 - 07:39 PM, said:

Missiles are over-rated.

Why did you step out of bounds and suicide yourself last night.

[Lunatic_Asylum]

Soulscour, on 07 September 2014 - 07:50 PM, said:

Why did you step out of bounds and suicide yourself last night.

Ping problems, most likely.

[Mad Strike]

Lord Perversor, on 07 September 2014 - 01:11 PM, said:

Strike with all my respecta you can come and talk to me on Ts if wish to discuss about this but.

How come last challenge you was pretty much boasting about winning easymode with a Raven 3l narcing and tagging for it and now it just make you want to quit....

"I don't like to use LRMs , prefer to neutralize , counter ECM with NARC and use anti-LRM countermeasures with 3xAMS and ECM" hope you remember that one. Plus the change on the challenge score system proves my point.

P.D: I never said "easy mode" or "easy wins" , i said that i had an increase in my CB income per match regardless of winning or losing them thanks to the narc , ecm , uav bonuses on a slow light Kit Fox.

Edited by strikebrch, 07 September 2014 - 09:06 PM.