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[Gigadouche]

I think the permanent c-bill bonus is going to make people want to play their founders mech(s) more than they would normally (or more than they even want to) purely because a lot of people will be looking to maximize their currency gained/time invested ratio. This is partly why I didn't buy a founder's pack, I don't want to feel like it would be more beneficial to be playing a founder's mech rather than a mech of similar tonnage/loadout to "max" my gains. Anyone else consider this? And I know there's gonna be people that are gonna say something stupid like "well, if you let it make you want to do that, its your fault!! ahurp". It's human nature to min/max everything especially if you're "farming" for something else specifically, and it's gonna happen and be quite widespread, I'm sure of it.

[Dark Fact]

It's been considered, but it won't be an issue. There will probably be premium mechs with C-Bill boosters in the future. The amount of people with Founder's mechs will also be diluted as time goes on, so it won't be a huge factor in the overall game anyway.

I'm sure the devs considered something so simple before offering this feature.

Edited by Dark Fact, 22 June 2012 - 03:15 PM.

[Reported for Inappropriate Name]

I will be getting a founders pack if they're still selling them when I decide this is the game for me. However as far as the cbill bonus goes, you're completely right- although I suspect it will be their unique looks that will be the primary staying point. personally if I get one it will either be a jenner or an atlas or something, primarily because I want to play the stalker as my main machine, it's pretty neat, or maybe somehow fit two gauss rifles and a ppc on an awesome

[Jukebox1986]

I will pilot one of my Founders Mechs while "farming", and my favorite Mechs when playing "normal".

[FactorlanP]

I bought the Founders pack for a few reasons.

1) To financially support a game I really am looking forward to playing

2) So I have the extra C-Bill earning capability to use if I ever find myself cash poor in game

3) Guaranteed early access, baby!

[PirateLincoln]

I know I'm not the only one who chose their 'mech for reasons other than using it all the time and raking in money.

I went with the Hunchback because I'm going pure medium, and I didn't feel like paying for it with C-bills.

A buddy of mine went with the Atlas not because he plans on driving it all the time, but because it's one of the iconic 'mechs of MW/BT.

Chances are good I'll be in a 'Cada or a 'Buche more often than the Hunch...and I plan on using the Centurion the most.

[Arbalister]

Why would you *not* use your founders mech? I mean, seriously... I chose a Catapult. I had every intention of aquiring a Catapult ASAP in the game, by any means. I like Cats.

Odds are, given a choice, I'd be playing a Catapult. There are others that I'll drive, just because there are others that I'm interested in... but the Catapult would be my main.

How is that any different now that I have a Founder's Cat?

[Gigadouche]

Arbalister, on 22 June 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Why would you *not* use your founders mech? I mean, seriously... I chose a Catapult. I had every intention of aquiring a Catapult ASAP in the game, by any means. I like Cats.

Odds are, given a choice, I'd be playing a Catapult. There are others that I'll drive, just because there are others that I'm interested in... but the Catapult would be my main.

How is that any different now that I have a Founder's Cat?

Hear that wooshing sound?

[polyzelf]

People will use whatever mechs they want to. A 25% C-Bill boost won't stop me from using the mech I want to use that fits my style of play. But it will help me get there.

It's not going to hurt anything except someone's feelings.

[Calisrue]

In a year or two when omnitech or clan mechs start coming out, people will start drifting away from their founders mechs if they haven't already.

[mrcarlton]

You can change loadouts on the founders mechs, they wont perform any different than a normal mech. They just gain more money. The first things many people will try is to take off jumpjets, remove rear armor, remove medium lasers, dump all the heatsinks, put ammo in super armored box, equip derp weapons... I expect it. All in the attempt to create the hurr-durr ultra-super-farming mech.

I just hope (nope.avi) that mwo has systems in place to prevent the derp, and people have the decency to not take advantage of glitches and bugs just to get a couple extra c-bills.

[Iskra]

It's same thing as WoT (sorry for yet another comparison with it ) people won't use premium mechs 24/7 and as new players come into game founders premium mechs numbers will diminsh in big pool of players.
I'm more worried about new premium mechs with outstanding status that might get recognized as better towards standard ones and get used widely , as seen in WoT with Lowe and Type59 that both needed to be removed from game to balance it ; hope MWO won't do that kind of stuff in long run

Edited by Iskra, 22 June 2012 - 03:28 PM.

[polyzelf]

Iskra, on 22 June 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

It's same thing as WoT (sorry for yet another comparison with it ) people won't use premium mechs 24/7 and as new players come into game founders premium mechs numbers will diminsh in big pool of players.
I'm more worried about new premium mechs with outstanding status that might get recognized as better towards standard ones and get used widely , as seen in WoT with Lowe and Type59 that both needed to be removed from game to balance it ; hope MWO won't do that kind of stuff in long run

The founders mechs will not provide any direct combat advantages over the opposition outside of giving more C-Bills.

[Vyviel]

25% boost is nothing compared to the 50% boost you get on all mechs just by buying premium months. So I dont think this will be an issue. Im sure you will see guys who play 10000 battles in certain mechs they like because its their favourite so who cares?

Personally I think it should be a 50% boost to CB on the mech like WOT premium tanks.

[Gigadouche]

Lol some of these arguments are hilarious...

"Well in a year or two... clan omni's and such...."

I also like the one's acting like the 25% bonus in C-Bills aren't gonna influence people. Are you kidding? 25% is a lot. Every 4 games you get a whole other game's worth of C-Bills assuming your account isn't on the monthly boost. Even then it's still very substantial. And we have no idea how bad the grind is in this game, if the currency grind for items/mechs is anything comparable to Tribes 2, you bet people are gonna feel forced to use their founder's Atlas instead of another assault mech of similar spec that fulfills the same exact role. They may hate their atlas, but they're still gonna play that founder's mech so they can get that new mech that just came out faster, or pay their repair bills for the mechs they actually like using/playing.

And it's not even a good business model. PGI gets nothing out of people using their founder's mech they bought a year ago. The only thing that could replace it is a mech that has an even bigger passive bonus, and that would be a pretty dirty move/PR blunder. The mechs should of had some other bonus or no bonus at all, it would fulfill the same intent of selling more founder's packs.

[IMIonte]

If its anything like w.o.t those founders mechs will be some good cash cows. I'm always up to playing any other mech i will aquire in the games future.Nothing beats working on some thing you enjoy. Also A big Huzzah! to all those whom have purchased any founders packs way to support the game.

[Loki Farseer]

I did it all for the access C'mon.. the access C'mon.. So you can take the Mech and stick it over yeah... stick it over yeah.. stick it over YEAH...

Well and the C-Bills....

[Aegic]

[Lamorakk]

I basicaly see this as an encouragement to the Devs and give out some info about the community as well.
Keep it up guys!!

[Argon3]

FactorlanP, on 22 June 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

I bought the Founders pack for a few reasons.

1) To financially support a game I really am looking forward to playing

2) So I have the extra C-Bill earning capability to use if I ever find myself cash poor in game

3) Guaranteed early access, baby!

In WoT I don't like to play to play my premium tanks for credit/c-bill grind
Lowe makes me money but it is boring to play now
Some of the lower tier (my tier 3 german light) I play because I just love the way it plays
The Premiums where out in force for several months when the game went live
Now you don't see them in any amount
The type 59 shows some still
So in well under a year expect thew foiunders mech to show up few and far between
Even when Clan Wars started the T8 heavie premiums made a showing
Now if you want to win they are not there

And this game will have MUCH more skill than mech wieght
In WoT a T1 can not hurt a T10
Here 90% of the Lights will be able to cause damage if not even kill a heavy
Even easier to kill a lone Assualt that is brave( stupid) and wants to run out alone and kill you all because he is bigger
Team work is important in WoT
Here it is VITIAL

Oh and if you stink in a mech
I don't care if its a founders mech or a regular
Your team is not down a mech and you have made them unhappy with you
You will make credits less than a better player


It is better to back up and live
Than stand alone bravely and die

Argon3

Edited by Argon3, 22 June 2012 - 04:00 PM.