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[Ryvucz]

With the split from IGP and the retention of all rights to the Mechwarrior IP that caused MechWarrior Tactics to no doubt incinerate.

And with PGI working on their own IP, generating their own new and completely different game...

Is MechWarrior Online the ONLY MechWarrior title that will be created during the entire duration of the IP license?

Please don't sit on the IP with just MechWarrior Online to ever come out in over a decade.

[WarHippy]

Ryvucz, on 09 September 2014 - 11:18 AM, said:

With the split from IGP and the retention of all rights to the Mechwarrior IP that caused MechWarrior Tactics to no doubt incinerate.

And with PGI working on their own IP, generating their own new and completely different game...

Is MechWarrior Online the ONLY MechWarrior title that will be created during the entire duration of the IP license?

Please don't sit on the IP with just MechWarrior Online to ever come out in over a decade.

They only acquired the publishing rights to MWO from IGP, and IGP still has the publishing rights for Tactics.

[Ryvucz]

WarHippy, on 09 September 2014 - 11:22 AM, said:

They only acquired the publishing rights to MWO from IGP, and IGP still has the publishing rights for Tactics.

https://www.mwtactics.com/

http://en.wikipedia....Warrior_Tactics

That's still debatable with fingers pointing in many directions.

[Seeker Kirov]

Ryvucz, on 09 September 2014 - 11:18 AM, said:

Please don't sit on the IP with just MechWarrior Online to ever come out in over a decade.

Look at the conniptions people are having because PGI started a 2nd game. And you want them to crank out a 3rd?

[MeiSooHaityu]

I never tried MW Tactics. Honestly, it intimidated me a bit.

It seemed like a virtual version of the TT game and even playing the table top version as a new comer was a bit tricky playing with the beginner rules.

I would have been more likely to play a multiplayer version of Mech Commander. That game was hard, but I did have fun with it.

In either case, whom ever has the rights, might have a rather unpopular game on their hands.

P.S. Also was not a fan of Tactic's artwork.

[WarHippy]

Ryvucz, on 09 September 2014 - 11:36 AM, said:

https://www.mwtactics.com/

http://en.wikipedia....Warrior_Tactics

That's still debatable with fingers pointing in many directions.

Like I said IGP retains the rights to MWT, however there does not seem to be a developer for MWT as of now. The project is probably doomed, but that is irrelevant to the OPs fear.

Edited by WarHippy, 09 September 2014 - 11:45 AM.

[Bhael Fire]

Russ mentioned in the THM last night that they plan on incorporating single player content for the game.

The first REAL single player MW game in over a decade.

[Ryvucz]

WarHippy, on 09 September 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

Like I said IGP retains the rights to MWT, however there does not seem to be a developer for MWT as of now. The project is probably doomed, but that is irrelevant to the OPs fear.

LOL what? I am the OP...

August Immanuel, on 09 September 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

Look at the conniptions people are having because PGI started a 2nd game. And you want them to crank out a 3rd?

Lots of assumption with that one. Thanks for staying on topic though.

MeiSooHaityu, on 09 September 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

I never tried MW Tactics. Honestly, it intimidated me a bit.

It seemed like a virtual version of the TT game and even playing the table top version as a new comer was a bit tricky playing with the beginner rules.

I would have been more likely to play a multiplayer version of Mech Commander. That game was hard, but I did have fun with it.

In either case, whom ever has the rights, might have a rather unpopular game on their hands.

P.S. Also was not a fan of Tactic's artwork.

I wasn't happy with it due to being a browser game, the art was pretty horrid as well.

But considering it was the closest thing to MechCommander with the ability to have a mech without timeline restrictions (or so assumed) it would have been nice.

However Microsoft did release the source code for MechCommander 2, which many have been creating mech models for. Might be the only thing out there available.

http://www.moddb.com...mander-omnitech

[WarHippy]

Ryvucz, on 09 September 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:

LOL what? I am the OP...

The point still stands. PGI is not sitting on the IP at the very least IGP still has the option to produce MWT. Those links about what is happening to MWT are irrelevant to your fears of other games not being made. I will say though it is very unlikely that any other game is going to be made other than this one for the time being. They could lease rights for other games, but unless someone comes knocking I don't see it happening.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Ryvucz, on 09 September 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

LOL what? I am the OP... <_<



Lots of assumption with that one. Thanks for staying on topic though.



I wasn't happy with it due to being a browser game, the art was pretty horrid as well.

But considering it was the closest thing to MechCommander with the ability to have a mech without timeline restrictions (or so assumed) it would have been nice.

However Microsoft did release the source code for MechCommander 2, which many have been creating mech models for. Might be the only thing out there available.

http://www.moddb.com...mander-omnitech

I think NGNG is doing some work on Mech Commander 2 as well. It might be a neat game depending on how it pans out.

[Ryvucz]

WarHippy, on 09 September 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

The point still stands. PGI is not sitting on the IP at the very least IGP still has the option to produce MWT. Those links about what is happening to MWT are irrelevant to your fears of other games not being made. I will say though it is very unlikely that any other game is going to be made other than this one for the time being. They could lease rights for other games, but unless someone comes knocking I don't see it happening.

How is that irrelevant?

[Hans Von Lohman]

This isn't the mechwarrior tactics forum, but in my opinion that other game could do well if they borrowed the 3D models from MWO and went to full turn based gameplay directly from the board game, complete with melee combat.

[Appogee]

MeiSooHaityu, on 09 September 2014 - 01:00 PM, said:

I think NGNG is doing some work on Mech Commander 2 as well. It might be a neat game depending on how it pans out.

I would buy a new MechCommander game in an instant.

[WarHippy]

Ryvucz, on 09 September 2014 - 01:03 PM, said:

How is that irrelevant?

It is irrelevant because PGI and IGP are not the same company, and both have the right to make a MechWarrior game yet you are here asking one of them(the only one actually making a MechWarrior game mind you) to not sit on the IP. If you are concerned with MWT get in contact with IGP.

[Ryvucz]

WarHippy, on 09 September 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

It is irrelevant because PGI and IGP are not the same company, and both have the right to make a MechWarrior game yet you are here asking one of them(the only one actually making a MechWarrior game mind you) to not sit on the IP. If you are concerned with MWT get in contact with IGP.

Do you have the source proving that IGP has the right to make a MechWarrior game?

[WarHippy]

Ryvucz, on 09 September 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

Do you have the source proving that IGP has the right to make a MechWarrior game?

Go listen to the Town Hall from last night. PGI only acquired the publishing rights for MWO from IGP who still holds the rights to MWT.

[Ryvucz]

WarHippy, on 09 September 2014 - 01:31 PM, said:

Go listen to the Town Hall from last night. PGI only acquired the publishing rights for MWO from IGP who still holds the rights to MWT.

You're not doing a very good job of sourcing anything. Reread the original post about MechWarrior in general, not who holds rights.

You're also doing a bad job of stating my fears are irrelevant because "I said so".

Also, can you prove that the split of IGP personnel from work with PGI over a MechWarrior title did not cause MechWarrior Tactics to just poof?

Before counting someone else's fears as irrelevant, maybe you should look into how people are different and how things are perceived versus "Cuz I feel differently".

[stjobe]

Ryvucz, on 09 September 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

Do you have the source proving that IGP has the right to make a MechWarrior game?

IGP held the publishing rights for MWO and MT.
PGI bought back the publishing rights for MWO.

What does that leave IGP - assuming they still exist - with?

As it is though, MT is for all intents and purposes dead. The devs were let go in December without IGP telling anyone, they sold founder packs up until two weeks ago, and since then the website has been in "extended maintenance" and the game unavailable.

I'm sorry, but everything points to MT being dead and gone, and more than likely IGP as well.

[WarHippy]

stjobe, on 09 September 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

IGP held the publishing rights for MWO and MT.
PGI bought back the publishing rights for MWO.

What does that leave IGP - assuming they still exist - with?

As it is though, MT is for all intents and purposes dead. The devs were let go in December without IGP telling anyone, they sold founder packs up until two weeks ago, and since then the website has been in "extended maintenance" and the game unavailable.

I'm sorry, but everything points to MT being dead and gone, and more than likely IGP as well.

At least someone in here understands.

[DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa]

Reading the facebook entry, and then some more about how the other developer was fired and people have been milked since puts IGP in a really bad light. No one honestly knows what's going on with that other game, but it is a completely separate issue from PGI and MWO.

IGP comes across as pretty freaking evil and I'm sorry they've had their hooks in MWO for so long. There are people who bought into a game who are never going to see their money's worth... whatever people can say about PGI and the development of MWO ... well, I won't talk for people, I will just talk for myself. I have gotten a lout out of the founders, phoenix, and clan packs. The only thing I'd change is the Phoenix purchase as I will be riding clan mechs in CW, but still... all purchases have had value and I've been able to play to my hearts content..