48 replies to this topic

[That Guy]

it would be even better if Standard stucture and Single heat sinks were actually balanced, and not just a Cbill sink to not suck.

[Agent 0 Fortune]

I for one prefer the true to lore heroes. C-bills are free but good, stock, tier1 tech, mechs are hard to find.

[Carrioncrows]

The problem isn't that the mechs or Lore.

It's that Standard structure and SHS are so damn bad that you absolutely HAVE to upgrade.

-Hint - Hint-

I would prefer a reason to have standard structure and SHS. A Side grade rather than a flat out "upgrade" that Endo and DHS currently are. Same with FF.

Edited by Carrioncrows, 11 September 2014 - 10:05 PM.

[AlexEss]

Carrioncrows, on 11 September 2014 - 09:56 PM, said:

I would prefer a reason to have standard structure and SHS. A Side grade rather than a flat out "upgrade" that Endo and DHS currently are. Same with FF.

Well that we can blame on FASA...

I personally do not care either way. Enough bending have been done to make the lore usable and the game playable that i will not be all rage and flame if some hero mechs get a tune up. Lore or not. After all we are all "heroes" by the way our mechs look for the most of the time.

[Carrioncrows]

AlexEss, on 11 September 2014 - 11:40 PM, said:

Well that we can blame on FASA...

I personally do not care either way. Enough bending have been done to make the lore usable and the game playable that i will not be all rage and flame if some hero mechs get a tune up. Lore or not. After all we are all "heroes" by the way our mechs look for the most of the time.

I love diversity and build diversity.

I just hate have two potential monolithic features that could diversify a ton of builds. If SHS were just a wee bit better. 1.4 in the engine and 1.2 external they would rival DHS. Yes DHS is the easy option, but SHS should be viable where tonnage isn't an issue but space is and you could maximize that tonnage.

Same with Endo and DHS.

I'd like Standard structure to give -20% structure hp over endo. So that 10% weight you save actually came from somehwere.

I'd like FF structure to give you the option to equip up to 20% more armor per location. (doesn't give you more armor but allows you to just equip more - instead of a 100 ct armor you would have the option of 120 ct armor but u still have to pay for the armor tonnage)

There would be a lot of different builds where people would gravitate towards Standard, SHS and FF armor instead of the norm because on certain builds it is comparable.

[jaxjace]

Why not both? also all heros should come stock with double heat sinks and endo just saying.

[Ted Wayz]

I am glad some of you love your 3025 heroes, but IMO you should be able to downgrade to them. For the MC I want endo and DHS at a minimum. For a mech like the Vindi I want XL for the MC I pay. As I said before, if you have the correct hard points....

Just look at the Vindi SIB and the compared to the 1R. One costs 3375 MC and one costs 3.8 Mill c-bills. Guess which one has more hardpoints? And otherwise they are practically identical.

A 3050 SIB could have been released and all the lore boys could have pulled off the pesky upgrades to get their 3025 mech. Just saying.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Mcgral18, on 09 September 2014 - 05:13 PM, said:

PGI releases good Hero mechs, community cries OP.

PGI releases lore friendly Hero mechs, other community cries bad. Stock mech community loves them, though.


They just can't win.

Incorrect. They are complaining about the cost vice the actual value for what they purchased. They could have easily kept the prices for these lore friendly mechs comparable to the value in 3025 stock you were purchasing. Nostalgia does not have to cost a ton in a game of pixels.

[Kraven Kor]

Russ Bullock, on 09 September 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Those pointing out that this is lore based are 100% correct and honestly we felt the "value" for the customers was mostly in being true to lore in these situations. This is not the first person that has responded like this recently so it seems we have made an improper judgement on what the community wants. On the next hero mechs we will look for options on upgrading them rather than making them true to lore.

Stop me now if you feel the other way. Thanks for this input.

Honestly, if the C-Bill grind was not so slow for those of us that only play a few hours a week,, I think it would be less of an issue.

Maybe an option of buying them fully upgraded for a few MC more or something.

I dunno. I have not felt truly "cheated" on the HM's I have purchased, so far as value vs. cost and upgrading with C-Bills or whatever.