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#1001 Ensaine

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:19 AM

Niko, you reap what you sow. Plain enough.

I'm VERY tired of Goons bashing. No, I'm not a Goon, though I was asked at one time.

Chronojam's timeline, I cannot compete with, but a brief history.....

Closed Beta. This, that, and the other were released in order for launch of OB. A few weeks before this OB, the community came unglued, indicating the game was NOT ready for the public to see, as we ALL wanted this to succeed on a massive scale.

PGI pushed back the launch of OB, and that was the last time PGI listened. In a press release from PGI, the public at large was told that Open Beta is ready, and that their Closed Beta Testers were 'tired' and burned out, and that PGI now needed more broad feedback. Little did we tired and burned out CB testers know, that feedback would quickly become less and less important. A this point, the Goons were surfacing, and had about as much visibility as any other player, at that time.

When 3PV was announced, where PGI swore it'd never happen, the Goons, by now bigger, and well organized in the MWO community, went on a tear ass. And I don't blame them one bit. I fanned every flame I came near, as I saw the beginning of where we are now.

Ok, moving on.

Russ is in charge, make no doubt. Niko's parameters for PR were mandated by Russ, of this I have no doubt. Hell, they even sound the same in tone and attitude.

But Niko, finding this Reddit thing as amusing, well, there the sound of squealing brakes ensues.

Still think it's amusing now, Niko? I hope you realize, wherever you may look for employment in THIS industry in the future, you CANNOT, under any circumstances, use your real name.

Same goes for Paul, and Russ. I mean, who in their right mind, would trust ANYTHING with you guys involved, ever again? Well, to begin formulating an answer, just scroll up. We have Founders who walked away years ago, with all 12 posts, coming back to let you have it.

Well, now you got it. I'm pissed off. I'm not a big fish, but I'm no minnow. I've begun waking up contact's in the gaming industry, in case I want to re-initialize Mortality Radio. Only this time, the sole focus, instead of D&D 2e, and D&D 3.0 and 3.5, will be all about PGI, and MWO. The show had a tremendous impact during the early days of D&D 3.0.

Google this: Mortality Radio Adlon. Just a few here......

http://forum.rpg.net...Mortality-Radio

http://www.enworld.o...-Radio-podcasts

http://www.enworld.o...MORTALITY-DOWN-!

http://forum.candlek...p?TOPIC_ID=1854

http://archive.wizar...nd/rs/20030603a
^ this link, scroll to mid page.

Google should keep you busy, if you care :)

I STILL have all these guys home phone numbers, and personal emails, minus those who are no longer with us.

What was unknown to the PnP community at the time, is, I had just as many contacts in the software gaming industry.

At this point, I'm seriously debating re-starting the show, this time on Twitch, as opposed to the outdated shoutcast format, which I still have set up, including my 2 Euro, and one Aussie mirrors. Love Linux :)

I WILL do live call-ins, like the original show. No need for IRC with Twitch, as it's built right in.

To be frank with you all, my desire is to see PGI walk away from or lose this license. I cannot be reversed on this. It's too late for PGI to clean up this farce. The powers that be in PGI need to work for someone else, as no one there seems to have a clue about what this game should be, and howo to handle customers.

I will be vigilant, in determining if, and when their names surface on other projects, and begin anew.

I've begun a massive 'educational' email 'campaign', with links to all validated sources, to a great many people.

On the other side of things, I can be swayed:

If Paul gets stashed far away from lead ....and we never hear from him again.
If Niko hits the door. No alternate outcome here.
If Russ drops his always-been- crap attitude towards the community, and remains perma-STFU.
- or-
PGI walks away from the IP. THEN, I won't be launching torpedo's and ICBM's at their new Tranny project. For now, it's war.

Niko has lost all credibility, Keeping him on, would be wasting payroll. No one here is going to listen to ANYTHING he says. He has shot off his own foot, and the mess is on PGI. He, nor anyone at PGI, can clean Niko up.

Russ is a smug, self confident *******. Russ, how is the view from yon high Tee Ball Stand now?

Yep, the Tee Ball Stand thing got Russ in my radar. He needs to stay WAY in the back, and keep his mouth closed. Let a REAL PR person talk for the company. Lie to us even, tell us this new PR person is now a partner, anything, just gag Russ' mouth.

Do I sound mad? Angry? Ticked off? Yep, planned that way. I waited 13 years for a MW title, having been my single, favorite IP ever. To me, nothing comes close to Battletech/Mechwarrior, including MWO. And we have THIS instead. Inept people making a crappy game, and charging people for it, and finding everything quite amusing.

Yes, I am Adlon. I once told Reppu in an email, he essentially blew me off. He's another PoS. (Post on Saturday :)

I paid money based on a lie, both my Founder, and a few MC deals to boot. I'm tired of this never to arrive carrot strung across my face.

Things need to change, and NOW.

Edited by Ensaine, 11 September 2014 - 05:27 AM.


#1002 Yiphyin

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:21 AM

View PostStonefalcon, on 11 September 2014 - 05:18 AM, said:

Is this the monocle debacle were talking about regarding CCP?


No, this is CCP not releasing content for over a year because they were working on World of Darkness and the PS4 Dust 514. CCP -did- get it together but only after a tremendous revolt by their playerbase. I'm hoping that removing IGP from the picture and this debacle might be a moment where PGI can redirect the company into something we can be proud of instead of something we try to scrape off our shoes.

#1003 Krzysztof z Bagien

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:22 AM

I came to check if this thread is locked and everyone banned, and I must say I'm suprised :D

View PostDCM Zeus, on 10 September 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:


I have been lurking on the MWO Forums, and while I do miss the game. I miss you guys even more. :D

This needs to be put out there again, for all these founders to come back a bunch of things need to happen.

1. Fire Niko and Paul.

2. Get rid of Ghost heat.

3. Be transparent in everything you do.

4. Give us the promised features.

5. Stop making money grabs.

6. FINISH THE DAMN GAME!

This guy nails it, too bad it's not gonna happen.

Oh, and one more thing: please have a free coconut and enjoy your stay on our great island!
http://youtu.be/w0AOGeqOnFY
edit: I have been out of here so long I forgot how to make a video appear here.

Edited by Krzysztof z Bagien, 11 September 2014 - 05:39 AM.


#1004 Vhetra

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:23 AM

View PostAidenDark, on 10 September 2014 - 10:17 PM, said:

Thank you for getting on him for that post. It's quarter after 2 in the morning and I frankly couldn't be bothered. I will say I picked a hell of a week to take leave. Almost like the universe is giving me something to chuckle and shake my head at after putting up with the last two weeks of BS at work (End of fiscal year, Military acts like the world is going to end every year.)



GOTTA USE UP THAT FUEL, AMMUNITION, AND BUY A SHITTON OF OFFICE CHAIRS AND USELESS **** SO WE DON'T GET FUNDING CUTS!
I know what you mean, man. My command just randomly decided to blow all the rest of the cash on re-paving the ******* parking lot. Spoilers: It didn't need to be re-paved.

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:23 AM

View PostStonefalcon, on 11 September 2014 - 05:07 AM, said:

The problem is not wholly with Niko. It's with the people sitting in the big plush chairs ignoring common sense in favor of cash grabbing. Greed is a filthy beast and brings out the worst in man.

This cannot be understated.

According to Bryan, they were freaking designing this travesty in 2012 and 2013. This isn't some brand new thing.

At the time when they said they were designing Community Warfare, AND WERE NOT, they were instead designing some OTHER game.

Russ, you said in the townhall you couldn't understand sometimes why people were so pissed off.
THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT MAKES US PISSED OFF.

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:25 AM

Old founder who left last year posting just to be a part of this...for PGI: "You reap what you sow" comes to mind.

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:32 AM

Yup, thread is still running. Don't see any bans... or official responses yet. Interesting.

#1008 Yiphyin

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:32 AM

I haven't been around enough to have a view on Russ but if he is all-smug and no-customer-love, which I didn't hear too much in the Town Hall, that's what PR is for.

This is how it's supposed to work:
Russ: I don't want to hear any more about Community Warfare. Tell those ******* customers to die.
Niko posts: "We love you guys, keep playing!"

Obviously this isn't an ideal example but PR is ultimately about making people feel good to support your product. This happens through transparency, communication, and feeling listened to. Niko has failed utterly in this and even if he is a scapegoat for some of the bigger problems like previously mentioned he's lost his credibility with the community and every day he's kept on as the PR guy is another day everyone is not going to be listening to anything, even good things, PGI is saying.

Step 1: Reassign/Fire Niko
Step 2: Have a discussion on how Community Warfare will work. Listen.
Step 3: Follow through with a good compromise in CW between the different viewpoints in the community
Step 4: More Town Halls/communication as we go
Step 5: Profit

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:36 AM

View PostRoland, on 11 September 2014 - 05:23 AM, said:

This cannot be understated.

According to Bryan, they were freaking designing this travesty in 2012 and 2013. This isn't some brand new thing.

At the time when they said they were designing Community Warfare, AND WERE NOT, they were instead designing some OTHER game.

Russ, you said in the townhall you couldn't understand sometimes why people were so pissed off.
THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT MAKES US PISSED OFF.



Wow I'm dim. I just put two and two together there.

That whole time they were pushing content for this, while giving us promises and kind words to our FACES about how MWO is ever-evolving and moving forward, and how they're working so hard...


Those clan mechs sure rolled out fast, though...



View PostRallog, on 11 September 2014 - 05:32 AM, said:

Yup, thread is still running. Don't see any bans... or official responses yet. Interesting.




With something with this much community backlash, I imagine they're having a meeting first. This could very likely be the make or break for MWO at this point. I think it's safe to say Transverse isn't going anywhere anyway.

Edited by Vhetra, 11 September 2014 - 05:37 AM.


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:36 AM

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#1011 Ensaine

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:38 AM

View PostVhetra, on 11 September 2014 - 05:36 AM, said:



Wow I'm dim. I just put two and two together there.

That whole time they were pushing content for this, while giving us promises and kind words to our FACES about how MWO is ever-evolving and moving forward, and how they're working so hard...


Those clan mechs sure rolled out fast, though...







With something with this much community backlash, I imagine they're having a meeting first. This could very likely be the make or break for MWO at this point. I think it's safe to say Transverse isn't going anywhere anyway.


Yep, no CW, no true balance, a craptastic small handful of maps, yet, they had time to get Tranny going ......

lolwut?

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:38 AM

Niko and reddit right now:

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Edited by Listless Nomad, 11 September 2014 - 05:38 AM.


#1013 Kekrebos

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:40 AM

View PostVhetra, on 11 September 2014 - 05:36 AM, said:

With something with this much community backlash, I imagine they're having a meeting first. This could very likely be the make or break for MWO at this point. I think it's safe to say Transverse isn't going anywhere anyway.


Yup, I said it about 20 pages ago before I went to bed, and I'll say it again:

This is an absolutely unprecedented chance for them to 'get back', or start to mend the bridges with, a HUGE chunk of their player base. This is literally a golden opportunity for them.

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:40 AM

View PostThronde, on 11 September 2014 - 12:42 AM, said:

I'll just leave this here...


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FrogDog average pledge: $22
Transverse average pledge: $88

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:42 AM

I'm really hoping they do choose the mending option. The crash and burn option leaves me with no Mechwarrior franchise to play around with.

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:46 AM

It's about time they slept in the bed they made.

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:49 AM

View PostDeaconW, on 11 September 2014 - 05:25 AM, said:

Old founder who left last year posting just to be a part of this...for PGI: "You reap what you sow" comes to mind.

[color=#001320]For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. [/color]
[color=#001320]The standing grain has no heads; it shall yield no flour; [/color]
[color=#001320]if it were to yield, strangers would devour it.[/color]

God damn, I'm not even gonna edit that to fix the tagging. These forums suck balls.

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:51 AM

Gunslinger, I cry your pardon. I have forgotten the face of my father.

View PostRoland, on 11 September 2014 - 05:49 AM, said:

God damn, I'm not even gonna edit that to fix the tagging. These forums suck balls.

Edited by Time Bandit, 11 September 2014 - 05:53 AM.


#1019 Yiphyin

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:52 AM

Huh. I've seen at least a page of new posts here and the page number is still 52.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:55 AM

Honestly I feel like everything that can be said about this has been said by the community. Except for those of us who couldn't make it, because they've been exiled to their island. While they sip their rum-based mix drinks and watch the forums burn.

I just hope we could have been their voices. What an auspicious day, too: September 11th.

All we can really do now is wait to see what PGI's official response is.


Your move, PGI.





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