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[Bishop Steiner]

Johnny Reb, on 10 September 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

Well, regardless hopefully mc prices might come down now. Still want an Urbie just to have one!

edit: preferably a Deputy Dawg (still my homepage pic)!

Yeah, that would be nice. Dunno if it will happen, but can hope. I have been trying to get Russ to concede that the Hero pricing, at least needs to be factored by content, not just the current flat rates though. I enjoy that we are getting more Lore heroes, but don't agree with paying the same price as for DHS, XL, Endo Heros.

[Johnny Reb]

Bishop Steiner, on 10 September 2014 - 09:04 PM, said:

Yeah, that would be nice. Dunno if it will happen, but can hope. I have been trying to get Russ to concede that the Hero pricing, at least needs to be factored by content, not just the current flat rates though. I enjoy that we are getting more Lore heroes, but don't agree with paying the same price as for DHS, XL, Endo Heros.

Got to be a plus now PGI are independent, the Deputy has more chance than ever!.I love the Dep Dawg!

[Bishop Steiner]

Johnny Reb, on 10 September 2014 - 09:07 PM, said:

Got to be a plus now PGI are independent, the Deputy has more chance than ever!.I love the Dep Dawg!

He is still my favorite redesign, though my Vulcan is coming close.

[Johnny Reb]

Bishop Steiner, on 10 September 2014 - 09:09 PM, said:

He is still my favorite redesign, though my Vulcan is coming close.

By far my fave I saved all your posted pics of the Dep Dawg!

[DieGruneMorder]

Aside from the Cicada the 1AA is the fastest medium in the game so far.

[Scurry]

DieGruneMorder, on 10 September 2014 - 10:42 PM, said:

Aside from the Cicada the 1AA is the fastest medium in the game so far.

True, but the BJ-1X can match it, and the 55-tonners are just 0.2kph behind. And the WVR-6K and CN9-D can outrun it.

[Remarius]

Tastian, on 10 September 2014 - 06:25 PM, said:

Trying my best to finish mastery of the 3 non-hero variants of the vindicator. It is truly horrific. Sure, with good positioning and piloting (and a bit of luck and non-priority targeting) I have some okay games. But I play my butt off to get 300 damage.

The SIB I'm ok with (2 LPL with range extension, 2 SRM 2's and a tag or ML in the head) but started the other 3 last night and your experience mirrored mine. Just praying they improve hugely once doubled as its the first mediums I've owned that feel like they're both clumsy and fragile.

I've literally been ignored in group matches as the chassis is so underwhelming.

Tragic as I love mediums and Blackjacks.

[Elizander]

Bishop Steiner, on 10 September 2014 - 09:04 PM, said:

Yeah, that would be nice. Dunno if it will happen, but can hope. I have been trying to get Russ to concede that the Hero pricing, at least needs to be factored by content, not just the current flat rates though. I enjoy that we are getting more Lore heroes, but don't agree with paying the same price as for DHS, XL, Endo Heros.

They do believe that their pricing is competitive with similar products (WoT, etc) as stated in the Town Hall meeting and since people don't feel inclined to turn on their Premium Time (banked) then it also means the C-bill gains are at least leaning towards the generous side.

I recommended adding C-bills to the less upgraded hero mechs to at least pay for the DHS and Endo Steel upgrades.

Remarius, on 11 September 2014 - 12:26 AM, said:

I've literally been ignored in group matches as the chassis is so underwhelming.

That's when you have to pump out the DPS and make every shot count! Managed to rack up 500+ damage with just two UAC5s when my Shawk was ignored by the enemy.

[Artgathan]

The Vindicator is not really 'more' agile than the Griffin (presuming both have the same top speed). The Vindicator will get more jump power than the Griffin (using the same number of Jump Jets), but the Griffin has a greater horizontal torso twist range. Conversely the Vindicator has a touch more vertical pitch range and arm yaw range (though the combined torso + arm twist range on a mastered mech ends up favoring the Griffin, they have the same 160 degrees of combined twist initially).

It's also 10 tons less than the Griffin despite being the nearly same size, but that's a whole different issue.

[Bishop Steiner]

Artgathan, on 11 September 2014 - 03:57 AM, said:

The Vindicator is not really 'more' agile than the Griffin (presuming both have the same top speed). The Vindicator will get more jump power than the Griffin (using the same number of Jump Jets), but the Griffin has a greater horizontal torso twist range. Conversely the Vindicator has a touch more vertical pitch range and arm yaw range (though the combined torso + arm twist range on a mastered mech ends up favoring the Griffin, they have the same 160 degrees of combined twist initially).

It's also 10 tons less than the Griffin despite being the nearly same size, but that's a whole different issue.

I believe the comment I made is the Vindicator is a more agile jumper. and it is. Jump both, and see how far you can turn mid air. The Vindi turns more like a light than the Grf. (though I think the GRF can jump farther).

As for the base agility, never said it was more than the GRf. it has what, 5-10% less twist? Which still puts it up in the "very agile" range.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 11 September 2014 - 05:17 AM.

[Hagoromo Gitsune]

The aRrrr1 v1.0
The aRrrr1 v2.0

Pain in the ahhh... for those who not pay attention on battlefield.

Some swift and deadly An4L AngeL

Also nice an Cat Eater 1X with AC10+2MLs or 2MPLs and some SRM6... truly a Cat Hunter like it does on PTS before. Especially was extremely dangerous for MadKitties on maps such as Frozen, Caustic or Factory.

Edited by Hagoromo Gitsune, 11 September 2014 - 06:05 AM.

[EyeOne]

I now own all three variants of the Vindicator. And It's a bit of hit and miss but it works pretty well. It's still pretty squishy in the CT and the arms get blown off incredibly quickly. But as with any medium mech if you don't play it like a heavy (which is what I think most people do when they hate on Mediums) it works pretty well.

Here are my builds. Feel free to critique, I'm not attached to any of them yet.
Vindicator-1AA - That one lone ERLL is weird I know. At the time I didn't feel like adding 200,000cbills to my mod costs to buy a 3rd LL. I should change it.

Vindicator-1R - Maybe I should downgrade the MPLs to MLs and add a SRM4? Thoughts? I'm not sure it'd be worth it. I've had good luck with this one so far.

Vindicator-1X - It's slow. It's hot. ...And it's the highest KD and highest average damage of all my Vindicators. I try not to argue with results. When this thing stops working I'll change it.

Edited by EyeOne, 11 September 2014 - 10:29 AM.

[Hagoromo Gitsune]

VND-1AA 4 CQB
RVN-3L extended overpowered version

[Herzog]

I've always liked the mech, just because of it's "look." I'll have to pick one up and try out some of these builds. Thanks for sharing!

[Elizander]

Just bought my police mech today and I'm impressed with how long I stay alive with a 245 Standard engine and 4 armor at the back. I might even do better once I get more than 4 basics unlocked.

I tried adding an ER PPC but it pretty much fried my mech to shutdown so I changed the loadout to an ER Large Laser, 2 Mediums and two SRM4s.

[Ultimax]

Having only shot them, I'll say that for a lighter weight medium, they seem pretty resilient for their size and while tall their overall profile is slim.

Which, ultimately, is more important than being short.


A STD engine in one, seems to make for a very tough little (relatively) speedy mech.

[Bishop Steiner]

Ultimatum X, on 11 September 2014 - 08:14 AM, said:

Having only shot them, I'll say that for a lighter weight medium, they seem pretty resilient for their size and while tall their overall profile is slim.

Which, ultimately, is more important than being short.


A STD engine in one, seems to make for a very tough little (relatively) speedy mech.

well, they do lose arms to Clanners at range pretty fast. But And TBH, i haven't seen much added to toughness to my STD Engine, but they are fun, as long as you don't treat them like a "mech of the Line". The are not Centurion Tough, nor do they have the Punch of the HBK or BJ-1. But they are a heck of a lot more versatile than either, overall.

[Reverendk]

Followers of the maximum elo minimal drag lifestyle podcast and twitter feed are aware that I've been called a hotstepper. I'm flattered, but I won't make any kind of claim regarding my status as a so called "lyrical gangsta" or "A and R man". Frankly, I think Dave Gossett would have a thing or two to say about this. If you follow my vines you know that I do not comment on rumors and speculation. That being said, I have some strong opinions about anyone not running a Vindicator 1X as an Enforcer.

AC10 in the arm, large laser in the other arm, medium laser in the face for that high elo dome spray. Too often we are willing to jump into accusations of dead on arrival, meta abuse, and sub-par low elo play. If you aren't pushing the brain draining envelope, what are you even doing?


With all of the talk that's gone on in the last few weeks I guess we're left with little recourse but to remember that there ain't no shame, do your thing, but just make sure you're ahead of the game.



Cheers
RK
STEOEYYEH (sdrawkcab ti ekat ot ekil yssiM yaw eht hctaW if you're slow on the draw)
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Edited by Reverendk, 11 September 2014 - 09:44 AM.

[Viges]

Low priority target every time I see it. Even hunches are more dangerous.

[Bishop Steiner]

Reverendk, on 11 September 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

Followers of the maximum elo minimal drag lifestyle podcast and twitter feed are aware that I've been called a hotstepper. I'm flattered, but I won't make any kind of claim regarding my status as a so called "lyrical gangsta" or "A and R man". Frankly, I think Dave Gossett would have a thing or two to say about this. If you follow my vines you know that I do not comment on rumors and speculation. That being said, I have some strong opinions about anyone not running a Vindicator 1X as an Enforcer.

AC10 in the arm, large laser in the other arm, medium laser in the face for that high elo dome spray. Too often we are willing to jump into accusations of dead on arrival, meta abuse, and sub-par low elo play. If you aren't pushing the brain draining envelope, what are you even doing?


With all of the talk that's gone on in the last few weeks I guess we're left with little recourse but to remember that there ain't no shame, do your thing, but just make sure you're ahead of the game.



Cheers
RK
STEOEYYEH (sdrawkcab ti ekat ot ekil yssiM yaw eht hctaW if you're slow on the draw)
High Elo Low Drag Collective Gaming Group for the Family Friendly playing of High Intensity Team Competitive E-Games No profanity gaming clan Native Tongues fan club Low Emissivity Enthusiasts Woodworking podcasting Anti-jump up retention specialist Saltybet and Real Noriega Clan

this guy is very odd... but I can't help but love reading his posts, lol! Power to the people, Rev.