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[L Y N X]

Now if there was something to tie the combat engine to together and make it into a complete game?

[The Wakelord]

Great video.

Made me realize I've only ever played MW2 (I think it might've been called "MechWarrior 95" in Australia) and MWO.

I want those death animations returned to MWO (eg: the dragon at 4:53). A changing ragdoll like MW1-3 would be nice too.

[Aresye]

Wait!

You mean to tell me that the most recent title, and most current game in the series has the best graphics?

HOLD THE PRESSES!

[Onmyoudo]

Did this need to be "proved"? Of course the graphics are better, it's the most recent game and LL was a mod.

[Tarl Cabot]

No EGA 3025, MPBT Solaris nor MPBT 3025? MWO is more akin to those three due to it being hosted by a company, with the player base in one location than multiple leagues.. GEnie 3025 was using an updated version of the original MW combat engine. Solaris was an improved engine, the CW piece would have been called SVGA 3025 or something like that. EA 3025 did look more like MW4.

Just saying

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 14 September 2014 - 12:27 AM.

[Quxudica]

7ynx, on 13 September 2014 - 09:55 PM, said:

Now if there was something to tie the combat engine to together and make it into a complete game?

Given how old the last MW titles were, it should be the best.. that's not really saying much. It's like celebrating that GTA V looks better than GTA 3 or even GTA London 1969.

Sad thing is, while my poor outdated rig is thankful the game runs well, MWO looks pretty awful for a Cryengine title, the engine is capable of much much more than this game puts out.

Edited by Quxudica, 14 September 2014 - 01:08 AM.

[L Y N X]

Some of you missed the entire point of this thread... lol

Edited by 7ynx, 14 September 2014 - 01:45 AM.

[Tekadept]

Aresye, on 13 September 2014 - 11:52 PM, said:

Wait!

You mean to tell me that the most recent title, and most current game in the series has the best graphics?

HOLD THE PRESSES!

But worse gameplay. go figure.

[Jabilo]

Mechwarrior 3 actually still looks amazing (for it's time obviously).

Plus those games had stories, missions, AI, cut scenes and a lot more going on than death matches. For MWLL it was a bunch of guys in their bedrooms.

MWO looks ok (not great) and often runs poorly. They have a long way to go.

[Satan n stuff]

Jabilo, on 14 September 2014 - 02:14 AM, said:

Mechwarrior 3 actually still looks amazing (for it's time obviously).

It had destructible terrain, clearly MW3 is the superior game.
We'll just ignore how poorly balanced it was due to it's rigid adherence to tabletop stats. And the legging, we'll ignore that too.

[L Y N X]

Jabilo, if you have the PC hardware to pimp out MWO, then it does look great, especially when compared to those past titles, I have played them all. Started with Mechwarrior back in 1989 and thought wow this is so cool! lol

*points finger to nose* you got it right though... MWO needs something to tie it together. CW in only a couple months out if Russ and gang are to keep commits, and they have been doing better this year. Sad really that they could not do all this month here and month there work to bring CW out a year or more ago. Bet they would have sold more mech with fewer mechs available had they brought out CW last year. Bet they would have 2-10x the player base as well.

Edited by 7ynx, 14 September 2014 - 02:50 AM.

[nonnex]

Well it is normal that the most recent title has the best graphics. But I like your video a lot, its a fine summary of the MW Titles.

I think the most comparisons to the past titles (here and there in the forums) have more to do with the entertainment factor in general and not just graphics (which is only a part of an good game).

What makes a good a a "good" game? I don't know exaclty, If I would know the exact formula I would start my own company.

Edited by nonnex, 14 September 2014 - 02:57 AM.

[Kiiyor]

7ynx, on 13 September 2014 - 09:55 PM, said:

Now if there was something to tie the combat engine to together and make it into a complete game?

Watching the first Mechwarrior part, I was utterly devastated when Skrillex didn't arrive with an epic DRRRRRROP. It would have fit. Perfectly.

[Quxudica]

7ynx, on 14 September 2014 - 02:49 AM, said:

Jabilo, if you have the PC hardware to pimp out MWO, then it does look great, especially when compared to those past titles, I have played them all. Started with Mechwarrior back in 1989 and thought wow this is so cool! lol

*points finger to nose* you got it right though... MWO needs something to tie it together. CW in only a couple months out if Russ and gang are to keep commits, and they have been doing better this year. Sad really that they could not do all this month here and month there work to bring CW out a year or more ago. Bet they would have sold more mech with fewer mechs available had they brought out CW last year. Bet they would have 2-10x the player base as well.

I'd say "Great" is very much open to interpretation, if you compare this game to other titles using the same engine it hardly holds a candle.

[Elizander]

Satan n stuff, on 14 September 2014 - 02:42 AM, said:

It had destructible terrain, clearly MW3 is the superior game.
We'll just ignore how poorly balanced it was due to it's rigid adherence to tabletop stats. And the legging, we'll ignore that too.

Don't forget hit registration. Let's not kid ourselves about how the network code on that played out.

[L Y N X]

Quxudica, on 14 September 2014 - 03:09 AM, said:

I'd say "Great" is very much open to interpretation, if you compare this game to other titles using the same engine it hardly holds a candle.

such as...? if you are going to make such a claim, why not back it up? unless you are unable to...

[Sarlic]

The thing i am really excited about is the concept art and battlemech reworks.

Those are Awesome.

[Quxudica]

7ynx, on 14 September 2014 - 03:19 AM, said:

such as...? if you are going to make such a claim, why not back it up? unless you are unable to...

Both Archeage and Lichdome: Battlemage spring to mind immediately, the latter of which was made by developer that is actually slightly smaller than PGI.

And of course there's Crysis 3 itself. While that title obviously had far more resources, it clearly shows what the engine is capable of.

MWO isn't an ugly title on max settings, but it's nothing special and honestly doesn't run as well as it should given it's level of visual fidelity.

[William Mountbank]

Jump jets look fun in those other games...

[KamikazeRat]

(maybe nostalgia kicking in) but MW3 is hard to beat.
Good story,interesting and varied missions and maps, interactive lancemates, salvage, the AI was actually fairly challenging.
It had knock-down, recoil, destructable terrain.

Sure, by todays standards the graphics suck, but graphics aren't everything to all people.

I have alot of fun playing MWO, but every now and again, i will go back and run though a couple missions on MW3 (when it wants to play nice with my rig)