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#21 Cyborne Elemental

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:25 PM

Aw.. no Nose turret for the Vulture :(

#22 Nik Reaper

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:26 PM

So other than armor quirks , what kind of quirks could help the gargoyle by a lot?
I guess something like 10% cooldown on energy weapons might make it a better ermed spamer , 10-15% cooldown might make it a ok UAc20 + 4 ermed brawling platform with good stay power.... Still not too many good ideas, anyone else?

Edited by Nik Reaper, 17 September 2014 - 05:27 PM.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:28 PM

I'm actually excited for the gargoyle, hellbringer, and vulture.

The gargoyle looks like I can run something similar to my brawling victors.

The Hellbringer is an ECM ready heavy that's fairly fast.

The Vulture... my next LRM/SRM brawling mech? Yes please.

#24 MonkeyCheese

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:31 PM

View PostSaxie, on 17 September 2014 - 04:15 PM, said:

The mist lynx has way too much fixed equipment to make it viable. 6 jj's fixed across the entire mech, and a bap... At stock its only 3.5 tons of armor. At least free up a little so I can squeeze max armor in there without eating into the already small pod space.

I was lookin at it using a kitfox shell on sarna and 7.5 tons of equipment is not much.

Are you certain that the jumpjets are fixed like the nova/summoner?? If they are 7.5 tons is all its got, otherwise if they are removable its 10.5 tons of toys.

#25 LT. HARDCASE

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:32 PM

View PostPrezimonto, on 17 September 2014 - 05:28 PM, said:

The gargoyle looks like I can run something similar to my brawling victors.

That was by first thought, as well. It could be a brawling Victor, minus the JJs, that doesn't die to side torso loss.

#26 Turist0AT

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:33 PM

what is kph? Kilo per hour?

#27 Asyres

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:33 PM

View PostMister D, on 17 September 2014 - 05:25 PM, said:

Aw.. no Nose turret for the Vulture :(


The nose turret is a feature of the Mad Dog Mk. II and later models.

#28 MonkeyCheese

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:36 PM

View PostTurist0AT, on 17 September 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

what is kph? Kilo per hour?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kph welcome to the rest of the planet.

or this http://en.wikipedia....i/Metric_system

Edited by MonkeyCheese, 17 September 2014 - 05:38 PM.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:39 PM

View PostTurist0AT, on 17 September 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

what is kph? Kilo per hour?

Kilometers per hour.

View PostAsyres, on 17 September 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:


The nose turret is a feature of the Mad Dog Mk. II and later models.

For those who don't know, the Mechwarrior 4 rendition of the Vulture was canonized as the Mad Dog mk II, which is basically the same as the original but looks different due to Inner Sphere manufacturing equipment.
The Mad Dog mk III is an upgrade to the design (early 32nd century), with endo-steel skeleton, and two chin mounted ERMLs.
The Mad Dok IV is a Clan Sea Fox made modernized version, with ferro-lamerror armor (special: reduces damage taken by 20%) and endo-steel, otherwise not really different though it does not have a long range missile configuration.

#30 Turist0AT

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:41 PM

Thought Kilo is a prefix.

Who calls kilometers by K?

#31 Prezimonto

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:42 PM

View PostKevjack, on 17 September 2014 - 05:32 PM, said:

That was by first thought, as well. It could be a brawling Victor, minus the JJs, that doesn't die to side torso loss.


CUAC20 or CLBX20 + 4 to 6 ERML, or even ERSL.... Assault striker/brawler. Similar to my best performing mech loadout ever... 9B with ac20 and 2xLL and full JJ.

#32 MonkeyCheese

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:46 PM

View PostTurist0AT, on 17 September 2014 - 05:41 PM, said:

Thought Kilo is a prefix.

Who calls kilometers by K?

It is a prefix but anyway

I would assume everything in green on this world map
http://upload.wikime...ion_map.svg.png

In Australia for example when someone is driving down the highway they would say something like the speed limit is 100kmh it is usually spoken/pronounced "100 kays" instead of saying K P H or kilometers per hour.

Edited by MonkeyCheese, 17 September 2014 - 05:47 PM.


#33 Kiiyor

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:47 PM

View PostPrezimonto, on 17 September 2014 - 05:42 PM, said:


CUAC20 or CLBX20 + 4 to 6 ERML, or even ERSL.... Assault striker/brawler. Similar to my best performing mech loadout ever... 9B with ac20 and 2xLL and full JJ.


How many HS though?

Actually, with that speed, your HS don't matter as much, as you can strike and move to safety, in theory.

An 80 tonne, very hot crotch kicker.

View PostMonkeyCheese, on 17 September 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

It is a prefix but anyway

I would assume everything in green on this world map
http://upload.wikime...ion_map.svg.png

In Australia for example when someone is driving down the highway they would say something like the speed limit is 100kmh it is usually spoken/pronounced "100 kays" instead of saying K P H or kilometers per hour.


I love Australian slang.

#34 Khobai

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:49 PM

Hellbringer has 256 armor. And 384 is really the bare minimum armor want on a 65 ton mech. So you need to add 4 tons of armor.

After adding armor back on, the Hellbringer's 28.5 tons of pod space goes down to 24.5. And 23.5 after ECM.

The worst part is if the Hellbringer had FF and Endo it would have all that pod space back again.

Edited by Khobai, 17 September 2014 - 05:57 PM.


#35 Alaskan Nobody

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:49 PM

View PostMonkeyCheese, on 17 September 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

I would assume everything in green on this world map
http://upload.wikime...ion_map.svg.png

Interesting to see that the US of A is not the only ones to not use it. (Thought we were) :huh:

Wonder what Antarctica or Myanmar (I think?) uses.

And seconding that bit about "100 Kays" as the people I know up here do the same when we discuss metric distances. :ph34r:

#36 Turist0AT

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:49 PM

View PostMonkeyCheese, on 17 September 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

It is a prefix but anyway

I would assume everything in green on this world map
http://upload.wikime...ion_map.svg.png

In Australia for example when someone is driving down the highway they would say something like the speed limit is 100kmh it is usually spoken pronounced "100 kays" instead of saying K P H or kilometers per hour.


Soo the speed limit is 100kmh.... kilo x meters x hour? are you sure its not Km/h?

You are not making any sense.


Never mind its a regional diff.

Edited by Turist0AT, 17 September 2014 - 05:55 PM.


#37 1453 R

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:52 PM

View PostMonkeyCheese, on 17 September 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

It is a prefix but anyway

I would assume everything in green on this world map
http://upload.wikime...ion_map.svg.png

In Australia for example when someone is driving down the highway they would say something like the speed limit is 100kmh it is usually spoken/pronounced "100 kays" instead of saying K P H or kilometers per hour.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:52 PM

I know we just met and this is crazy... but I really can't wait for the Gargoyle...!!!1

#39 Kiiyor

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:54 PM

View PostTurist0AT, on 17 September 2014 - 05:49 PM, said:


Soo the speed limit is 100kmh.... kilo x meters x hour? are you sure its not Km/h?

You are not making any sense


It's kilometers/hour. Kilo x meters x hour is a different metric, and is what we use to describe the theoretical maximum speeds of fat people, (or 'fatties' in Australian slang) on foot, foraging in their house for food.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:56 PM

Anyways. Disappointing choices of alternate variants aside, my Ferrets and I will be rekking scheiss in high style come whenever-this-crap-releases. By that point I believe I will have melted all the Dire Whales I need to with my SplatDog anyways and will be ready to go back to my high speed striker/harasser roots. Even if the Viper would still have been a much better choice. Sadness...





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