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[Verdic Mckenna]

SOLD to the bold man with amazing ideas!

White Bear 84, on 18 September 2014 - 05:53 AM, said:

I vote we make an exception, break all the rules and get the Kodiak. Case closed.

[Alistair Winter]

What's a second line mech?

[Ancient Demise]

Bront, on 18 September 2014 - 05:58 AM, said:

MASC was weightless but took up crit slots. If they let you remove it, it would be a problem when they had to put it back for folks who did, and if they didn't let you remove it, it would hamper those mechs with no real returns (well, the Fire Moth would have plenty of room anyway being so light).

My mistake, but the point still remains. People could easily put it back like the command console.

Alistair Winter, on 18 September 2014 - 06:16 AM, said:

What's a second line mech?

An awesome mech when only a few people realize how awesome it is like the Kodiak and Warhammer IIC

Its a mech that was not usually used on the front lines.

[Metus regem]

Alistair Winter, on 18 September 2014 - 06:16 AM, said:

What's a second line mech?

It was a mech we used to keep IS trash like yourself, in your place while we moved onto the next planet.

[DONTOR]

What it really boils down to is that we need MASC! Then CGB will get its due mechs. Unfortunately the Kodiac wont be here for a while Im afraid.
Mad Dog wil suffice for now though, especially since we get it next week!

[Alistair Winter]

Ancient Demise, on 18 September 2014 - 08:23 AM, said:

An awesome mech when only a few people realize how awesome it is like the Kodiak and Warhammer IIC
Its a mech that was not usually used on the front lines.

Metus regem, on 18 September 2014 - 08:33 AM, said:

It was a mech we used to keep IS trash like yourself, in your place while we moved onto the next planet.

So the Clans had to use the Kodiak, a 100 ton mech with XL400 engine, CUAC20, CERLL, 8xCERML and 2xCSSRM6 just to control the poor FRR pilots in their old Trebs and Hunchbacks, that were bought second-hand from this guy?

[Metus regem]

Alistair Winter, on 18 September 2014 - 09:39 AM, said:

So the Clans had to use the Kodiak, a 100 ton mech with XL400 engine, CUAC20, CERLL, 8xCERML and 2xCSSRM6 just to control the poor FRR pilots in their old Trebs and Hunchbacks, that were bought second-hand from this guy?

'Cause we are Ghost Bear, wo don't do anything half-assed! Come at us with a medium with an AC-20, we'll send 100 ton assualt mech with jump-jets at ya with it's own UAC-20!

[Xarian]

• MASC lights are ruled out due to technical problems with the networking of high-speed mechs (rules out Fire Moth)
  
• Only mechs from Technical Readout: 3050 are being added for now (rules out a bunch of mechs)
  
• The Viper looks just like the Nova, which was just released (rules out Viper)
  
• The Ice Ferret is the only other choice for a Medium and doesn't look like the Nova (rules in Ice Ferret)
  
• Both possible Heavies made it in

So the only meaningful choice was between the Gargoyle and the Executioner.

• The Executioner is just a heavier version of the Warhawk; same speed, similar weaponry
  
• The Gargoyle is extremely fast for its size and is very different from other Clan mechs currently available
  
• The logical choice is to go with the Gargoyle

Personally, I hate the Gargoyle. However, I hate the Executioner even more. Both are ugly junk. I'm happy that the Vulture made it in.

[Metus regem]

Would be nice if they were to go back to some of the early omni's like the Coyolt, Woodsmen, or King Fisher... I would so use a Coyolt, first omni mech? yes please! Too bad she only had the prime and alt A for configs....

[DocBach]

Xarian, on 18 September 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

• The Executioner is just a heavier version of the Warhawk; same speed, similar weaponry

Totally wrong -- the Gladiator is a 95 ton 'Mech that can jump, and with MASC runs as fast as a Mad Cat. Way more cool than a Masakari.

[Metus regem]

DocBach, on 18 September 2014 - 10:47 AM, said:

Totally wrong -- the Gladiator is a 95 ton 'Mech that can jump, and with MASC runs as fast as a Mad Cat. Way more cool than a Masakari.

Most Clan mechs were... I think only the Nova Prime runs hotter... Ohh, you mean style not heat...

[Joseph Mallan]

DocBach, on 18 September 2014 - 10:47 AM, said:

Totally wrong -- the Gladiator is a 95 ton 'Mech that can jump, and with MASC runs as fast as a Mad Cat. Way more cool than a Masakari.

Meh. I always preferred the Warhawk. More tonnage for weapons ant the Targeting computer!

Alistair Winter, on 18 September 2014 - 09:39 AM, said:

So the Clans had to use the Kodiak, a 100 ton mech with XL400 engine, CUAC20, CERLL, 8xCERML and 2xCSSRM6 just to control the poor FRR pilots in their old Trebs and Hunchbacks, that were bought second-hand from this guy?

thank goodness he's Drac!

[DocBach]

Metus regem, on 18 September 2014 - 10:48 AM, said:

Most Clan mechs were... I think only the Nova Prime runs hotter... Ohh, you mean style not heat...

cooler in all ways but looks - I never liked how the Gladiator or Man O War looked.

[CDLord HHGD]

It's ok.... At least the Bears will outlive the Smoke Jaguars.

[SgtMagor]

Kodiak would be a solid mech, this would be a big ticket item for IS and Clanners , Kodiak petition anyone?

[Metus regem]

As much as I would love it, there is only two versions that are time line apporiate.... so no go on the big bear, and that makes me a sad panda.

Still that does leave us with the Stone Rhino though... or not only two versions before ATM's are in... dang it...

Found one! The Supre Nova! dang it, ATM's and heavy lasers on later models....

Annihilator, that would work, only just....

[Bishop Steiner]

Bront, on 18 September 2014 - 05:58 AM, said:

My guess is they felt the Ice Ferret was a better mech than the Viper (and given it will have more armor, and likely more weapon space, they could be right, though I didn't do the weight calculations on the Viper (came up with 10.5 tons of pod space on the Ice Ferrit, it's lacking in hardpoints though, so might be interesting to outfit it)
MASC was weightless but took up crit slots. If they let you remove it, it would be a problem when they had to put it back for folks who did, and if they didn't let you remove it, it would hamper those mechs with no real returns (well, the Fire Moth would have plenty of room anyway being so light).

no, it had weight. That weight varied, based on the mass of the mech. TSM was weightless.

[Cattleman]

ice trey, on 18 September 2014 - 04:00 AM, said:

...
However, Even though I'm not a Ghost Bear player, I've noticed a glaring lack of bear 'mechs. Save for the inclusion of the Storm Crow C, the traditionally Ghost Bear designs are lacking:

Fire Moth/Dasher: Not here

I have some fond memories of playing MW2, GBL when I was a kid. I remember that funny little 'Mech, and would love to be able to play it now.

Xarian, on 18 September 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

• MASC lights are ruled out due to technical problems with the networking of high-speed mechs (rules out Fire Moth)

Ignoring the lore for the purpose of making good game-play for the general audience (like me!) like they have been, just take the liberty of making the speed comparable to the Locust or Spider and we're good!

[Metus regem]

Cattleman, on 18 September 2014 - 11:54 AM, said:

Ignoring the lore for the purpose of making good game-play for the general audience (like me!) like they have been, just take the liberty of making the speed comparable to the Locust or Spider and we're good!

And put collision damage back, and then we have cheap cruise missiles!

[Deathlike]

Should be asking for a Kodiak... plus it does have JJ variant... but considering the state of the Highlander, the hovering would be gloriously bad.