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[Jeb]

interesting compare shots...
I always find it odd that the medium -> heavy mechs are so very close in size, and heavy -> assault are so close...

Really I find the only real large difference in size is light -> medium.

Edited by Jeb, 21 September 2014 - 03:26 PM.

[MATRAKA14]

El Bandito, on 20 September 2014 - 05:42 PM, said:

Here is my shot. Catapult is similar in height but has much wider profile, as you can see from the part of the VCR jutting on the right side.



* cries*

[Jin Ma]

MATRAKA14, on 21 September 2014 - 03:42 PM, said:

]never forget

[Dauphni]

Jin Ma, on 21 September 2014 - 03:50 AM, said:

ehh donest really make sense but w.e. Its very easy to have a mold that is slightly smaller. All a mold is is a metal casing.

Clearly you have no idea how expensive these kinds of moulds are in reality. High-quality moulds have to be made with extremely narrow tolerances, and the precision work required to make them means a single mould can easily run into the hundreds of thousands or sometimes even millions of dollars. Using a single mould for parts across models is definitely a HUGE cost-saver.

[Hades Trooper]

Johnny Z, on 20 September 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

It already looks OP. I think it wise to get the nerf ball rolling now.

yeah, yeah, lets nerf it before it even gets a chance to play, hell lets nerf everything thats clan cause you know, it's not good to have any units that are even slightly better than a IS mech, cause you know, IS needs to be propped up so much with all the IS bad pilots

[Hades Trooper]

Destructicus, on 20 September 2014 - 06:24 PM, said:

Like really
I don't know if you noticed
But I play clan mechs just like you
I know how they play
I know how they work
And I know exactly how hot they run
That being said
The Timberwolf is indeed op and needs a nerf
it's a very easy mech to play.
If you can't admit that then you're simply a mediocre player in a good mech

lol timberwolves die easy if you can hold a steady aim.

An why can't the clans have 1 good mech? does every clan mech need to be inferior to the IS?

Uite Dauphni, on 21 September 2014 - 07:33 PM, said:

Clearly you have no idea how expensive these kinds of moulds are in reality. High-quality moulds have to be made with extremely narrow tolerances, and the precision work required to make them means a single mould can easily run into the hundreds of thousands or sometimes even millions of dollars. Using a single mould for parts across models is definitely a HUGE cost-saver.

Omg it's the year 3050, how can u just assume today costs even remotely have any impact on these mechs designs.

-1

[Vidarok]

The Mad Dog will FOR SURE be just as OP as the Timber Wolf, because it's popular, iconic and so on. It's not the way to go, but I'm certain that's what will happen.

[Destructicus]

Vidarok, on 21 September 2014 - 09:44 PM, said:

The Mad Dog will FOR SURE be just as OP as the Timber Wolf, because it's popular, iconic and so on. It's not the way to go, but I'm certain that's what will happen.

How does popularity make something op?
The Summoner is popular among the fanbase but it isn't op at all.
It's iconic as well in regards to clan Jade Falcon.
And you don't see them flooding the heavy queue like Timberwolves.
Lots of people will play it, sure, but that will be due to personal preference.
Popular?
Sure
Overpowered?
Not really, not when you compare it to the Timberwolf a fast, effective energy boat and fast ecm capable heavy striker that is the Hellbringer.
The most this thing can do is missile boat, which will probably not be as effective come the ECM revamp.

Edited by Destructicus, 22 September 2014 - 12:40 PM.

[Destructicus]

Hades Trooper, on 21 September 2014 - 09:43 PM, said:

lol timberwolves die easy if you can hold a steady aim.

An why can't the clans have 1 good mech? does every clan mech need to be inferior to the IS?

Come on now
Don't put words in my mouth
I never said nerf clans into uselessness and make them identical to IS mechs
I'm saying there is a need for balance and the Timberwolf is the biggest problem
I don't like it because it's always the target of nerfs that render the rest of the clan mechs useless and then it shruggs off said nerfs.
Trust me
I'm sick of the nerfs and I can easily admit that the Timberwolf is indeed in need of one.
The clans have good mechs, they just run hot and the reason they're being nerfed to hell is indeed because of the Timberwolf.

[r4plez]

Legs are too big for some of us, but what can be done when PGI is just reusing old assets to build new mechs from existing ones. ctrl C + ctrl V and more or less we got new mech :?

[Gas Guzzler]

El Bandito, on 20 September 2014 - 05:45 PM, said:

I assume you are talking about the A config, cause the other two uses LRMs. There is a reason why Mad Dog A has CERPPC and LB5X aside from the SRMs. The A can still snipe.

Personally, I will swap the pods with CLRMs once I get my hands on it.

We know

[Xyroc]

Fire and Salt, on 20 September 2014 - 05:15 PM, said:

Remember:

It uses the same molds for the leg components as the Timberwolf.

So simply 'scaling down' the Mad Dog is not an option that is compatible with canon.



You could only scale down the top half, if you were wanting to scale it.

If you shrunk the legs, you would need to shrink the Timberwolf legs as well.



I think it looks good

When I see something like this ... your making it too complicated please refrain from needless complications.

[Jin Ma]

Uite Dauphni, on 21 September 2014 - 07:33 PM, said:

Clearly you have no idea how expensive these kinds of moulds are in reality. High-quality moulds have to be made with extremely narrow tolerances, and the precision work required to make them means a single mould can easily run into the hundreds of thousands or sometimes even millions of dollars. Using a single mould for parts across models is definitely a HUGE cost-saver.

does anybody really konw how much imaginary modlds cost ?

[Artgathan]

And now one next to a Vindicator!

[yalk]

Destructicus, man....take it easy on the [ENTER] key, it's had enough....let the words flow, just a bit





This type
Of
Posting style
Is
Hard to
Read




On topic:

MadDog success depends entirely on the side torso hit boxes, just the missiles? Or creep up the sides of the center torso? Will determine it's ability to torso twist and hide it's center torso some....

Edited by yalk, 22 September 2014 - 05:47 PM.

[Vidarok]

Destructicus, on 22 September 2014 - 12:13 PM, said:

How does popularity make something op?
The Summoner is popular among the fanbase but it isn't op at all.
It's iconic as well in regards to clan Jade Falcon.
And you don't see them flooding the heavy queue like Timberwolves.
Lots of people will play it, sure, but that will be due to personal preference.
Popular?
Sure
Overpowered?
Not really, not when you compare it to the Timberwolf a fast, effective energy boat and fast ecm capable heavy striker that is the Hellbringer.
The most this thing can do is missile boat, which will probably not be as effective come the ECM revamp.

I doubt the Summoner is just as popular as the Timber Wolf. Guess which one was on the game covers the most, for example?

[Destructicus]

Vidarok, on 22 September 2014 - 05:58 PM, said:

I doubt the Summoner is just as popular as the Timber Wolf. Guess which one was on the game covers the most, for example?

I'm speaking in regards to the fandom and people who are deep into the lore.

The Mad Dog isn't on covers either, but MW4 and Ghost Bear legacy made it popular I'll give you that.

[ShinobiHunter]

The Catapult looks way better than the Mad Dog even if it is wider.

I don't think the Mad Dog has much more hope in torso twisting than a Dragon.