Howitzer357, on 23 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:
*laughs* You are arguing that you don't have enough information, when you can watch gameplay, you can read about gameplay, you can read the dev blogs. I don't know about anyone else here, but it -sounds- like because you aren't spoon fed the information to your email then you aren't willing to investigate. If that's the case, I totally don't blame you for not investing money, but there's hardly any point in complaining about that. It's your decision. The Founders packs are attractive to us who have investigated the game, have the liquid assets, or just plain love BT and decide "Take my money!". That's each categories perogative.
lol another attack.
Mal, on 23 June 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:
Those are not attacks, and to try and consider them attacks, is really stretching it.. I'd love for you to tell me how my comparison of pre-ordering ANY other AAA title to purchasing a Founder's pack, is an attack.
well aside from the fact that you're responding to a ransoming technique the developers have smartly chosen to ignore considering the request will be answered in due time, you are essentially attacking the poster by equating founders to a preorder and then using this connection to try and relate "Do you try every game before you pre-order?". now why you are trying to make people who don't pre-order inadequate I will never know; but consider this. preorders are not kickstarter donations, preorders are order reservations for products that are usually very near the shipping phase. there have been a few exceptions over the years but typically when you get to preorder something it's in it's final phase of development. but that's besides the point, did you ever stop to consider that there are people out there that prefer to spend their money wisely by learning about a product before they spend money on it so they can potentially avoid any undesired rough spots with the product? not everybody is immediately swayed by advertising- which if I will remind you, advertising's job is to get you to buy something, not inform you of its qualities. however gathering information on a product is the purchaser's burden until the point they can no longer find ansers by looking.
and as far as paying to beta test goes? this would be extortion. a beta test's purpose is to find and fix potential game stoppers. if anything they should be paying the user for spending his free time bug finding, however this can become expensive so usually developers use their families as test subjects, or have some kind of local testing thing where hired testers under a contract spend 4-5 hours being miserable doing the same thing over and over again to produce bugs, while at the same time getting whipped by the developer overseer.
let's think about this for a minute, a company demands you pay money for the chance to try their product (something that is not happening here under any circumstance). you have to ask questions, questions like; why would they be charging you to try a beta version of their game? what could they know that they're not telling you? is it really a beta or an exclusive showcasing of their product? or is it a cash grab because word of mouth is a powerful thing and advertising can only lie so much?
never underestimate the human capacity for deception, It's a successful survival trait that has worked since our first steps upon this planet, and when your survival depends on money you'll be willing to skew facts to make money. When you see this happening it is often a cry of desperation, and if you look deeper you can often see a whole slew of reasons to avoid a purchase- which since i'm on a roll I'll keep going- at this point companies will often start throwing around words like "entitlement" to guilt you, and "9.5" to entice you, they'll demand you spend money. all signs of desperation.
but I digress. I know there is a great need to defend your purchases, after all you invested in them, but if your purchase is a good one it can defend itself quite well and will be unaffected by haters. word of mouth and reputation trumps all advertising- and on the topic of advertising, a bad product often depends on the free advertising its user base will provide, in the need to defend their purchases. what better advertising than free advertising, am i right?
Edited by Battlecruiser, 23 June 2012 - 11:39 AM.
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