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[JohnnyWayne]

Actually a good idea. Russ where are you? I heard you read forums nowadays! ^^

[dwwolf]

He might be limited in what he can say here. It might be impolite because *other* people might also be reading here. An ounce of tact and all that.

Edited by dwwolf, 01 October 2014 - 09:02 AM.

[Kassatsu]

We definitely need a mech with the tag "MAD-*" in-game. It just begs for troll builds and high damage alphas.

[Iron Riding Cowboy]

dwwolf, on 01 October 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

He might be limited in what he can say here. It might be impolite because *other* people might also be reading here. An ounce of tact and all that.

true. if he has somthing in the works its best he not come and reply here

[Reno Blade]

So Russ mentioned in the latest Townhall meeting that they might try to do it with a design that is very different from HG-risky originals.

I'd say that requires a bump for these beautys!
nr.2 is my favorite

MoonUnitBeta, on 27 September 2014 - 09:01 PM, said:

Held a Marauder contest last year. If you guys missed it you should check out and see what people came up with. There's some really awesome stuff.

Main contest
The winners

Reno Blade, on 28 September 2014 - 02:27 AM, said:

Yes, the best Marauder contest on MWO and the best redesigns ever seen!
Allow me to quote the winners, because people don't click links most times and they need to be seen again

[Metus regem]

Reno Blade, on 17 April 2015 - 07:27 AM, said:

So Russ mentioned in the latest Townhall meeting that they might try to do it with a design that is very different from HG-risky originals.

I'd say that requires a bump for these beautys!
nr.2 is my favorite

As much as I would love to see them, even with a new design, so long as they have the right feel, that's what I want.

I also like that he stated it, it's not the name... seems too many people think the name is the issue, not the look.

[Trashhead]

This one is a sketch done by Alex:



If we could get this one, all with the AC at the right location (above CENTER torso, despite the AC technically mounted in the right torso), i would buy it right away.
But i fear it is to close to the Harmony Gold-Design.

[Joseph Mallan]

IceSerpent, on 27 September 2014 - 03:20 PM, said:

"Old Guard" are the only people who even know what a Marauder is, you can easily fool the rest of the playerbase by creating an oversized Shadow Hawk and naming it "Marauder". The big question is if it's not an original, why bother with it at all?

By the way, "reseen" Marauder is very ugly:

But teh Marauder IIC Reseen is beautiful

[Hawk819]

IceSerpent, on 27 September 2014 - 03:20 PM, said:

"Old Guard" are the only people who even know what a Marauder is, you can easily fool the rest of the playerbase by creating an oversized Shadow Hawk and naming it "Marauder". The big question is if it's not an original, why bother with it at all?

By the way, "reseen" Marauder is very ugly:

Ugly or not.. . . I'd love to have it in the game.

[Brimbooze]

Iron Riding Cowboy, on 01 October 2014 - 04:17 AM, said:

To tell the truth if i was russ ill get on the phone with Hasbro and Tatsunoko Productions , Big West , studio nue , macrosoft and every one else HG starting conflicts with and start a coalition to file a lawsuit to take away any false claims HG has on macross. i know Tatsunoko Productions , Big West , studio nue can make a lot of money if they can expand macross out of japan .

and start a fundraiser for it to after all HG has a lot of people who will pay to take them down http://www.ign.com/b...illing-robotech

I wonder if they could somehow manage to do this by maybe getting Microsoft involved by convincing the other companies to give them some sort of exclusive rights to produce video games for these franchises if they are able to expand them into the US once HG is dealt with, they might actually be able to pull it off. Hell Microsoft + Hasbro alone should easily be able to handle anything HG throws their way with the kind of pockets and legal team those two companies would wield.

Edited by Brimbooze, 17 April 2015 - 10:42 AM.

[Alex Morgaine]

IceSerpent, on 27 September 2014 - 03:20 PM, said:

"Old Guard" are the only people who even know what a Marauder is, you can easily fool the rest of the playerbase by creating an oversized Shadow Hawk and naming it "Marauder". The big question is if it's not an original, why bother with it at all?

By the way, "reseen" Marauder is very ugly:

Not original or... um, not... it still looks mwo styled at least. I think more would approve in the short run just to have an official marauder in 3D. Plus it's bound to look wicked... well pre geometry

[Kiiyor]

Seraphic Law, on 27 September 2014 - 02:40 PM, said:

During the last pod cast, Russ said because they weren't sure they would be clear from lawsuits.
But don't they have a legal department to look and check these things?

I daresay it would be entirely possible to design some reseen that were different enough to the original designs.... however, nobody can predict what HG will do with that. They might lawsuit on general principle, as their principles require them to be titanic butt-helmets.

Even if PGI won the lawsuit, it would be a huge drain on resources.

[TheMadTypist]

Hawk819, on 17 April 2015 - 09:25 AM, said:

Ugly or not.. . . I'd love to have it in the game.

That actually looks pretty badass, like a cross between a madcat and a shadowcat. It almost looks like MWO art with that colorscheme too, I'd pilot the hell outta that.

If PGI is really willing to actually go to task and defend a redesign, then yeah I'll totally buy a pack like the urbanmech had for it.

[Nathan Foxbane]

TheMadTypist, on 17 April 2015 - 04:59 PM, said:

That actually looks pretty badass, like a cross between a madcat and a shadowcat. It almost looks like MWO art with that colorscheme too, I'd pilot the hell outta that.

If PGI is really willing to actually go to task and defend a redesign, then yeah I'll totally buy a pack like the urbanmech had for it.

That would be because it is Alex's art he did for some official TT product released by CGL who has the merch licensing from Topps.

[Alex Morgaine]

Oh? There you go then, that's probably the closest to a prototype pic of the marauder to help decide, for good or bad.

[EgoSlayer]

Seraphic Law, on 27 September 2014 - 02:40 PM, said:

During the last pod cast, Russ said because they weren't sure they would be clear from lawsuits.
But don't they have a legal department to look and check these things?

The problem is that PGI's lawyers can't tell them if HG's lawyers are going to decide it's close enough to file suit.

I would love to see reseen/reimagined Warhammer and Marauders but unless someone can say for sure HG won't pursue legal actions I am not holding my breath.

[darkchylde]

The Reseen looks like it belongs to Battletech - the original was too spindly.

[bad arcade kitty]

EgoSlayer, on 17 April 2015 - 10:49 PM, said:

The problem is that PGI's lawyers can't tell them if HG's lawyers are going to decide it's close enough to file suit.

to be a lawyer seems as the best job ever
like you are sitting in a chair and then they ask you about something you say that you are not sure and get paid

[Reno Blade]

EgoSlayer, on 17 April 2015 - 10:49 PM, said:

The problem is that PGI's lawyers can't tell them if HG's lawyers are going to decide it's close enough to file suit.

I would love to see reseen/reimagined Warhammer and Marauders but unless someone can say for sure HG won't pursue legal actions I am not holding my breath.

Aye, but on the other hand the Hellbringer looks damn close to the Warhammer and the Timberwolf without missiles is also very close to the Marauder already, because they are the Clan's improvements on these two mechs. (which is nice, but as IS pilot... you know... )

I've been running Mad-5S loadouts, but it's more efficient to use the meta Timber build (PPCs in side torso and gauss in right arm + 2 more DHS for the removed lasers).
And a Hellbringer with a Warhammer loadout just sucks coolant popsicles...
(not to forget the removed lower arms when using two PPCs on clan mechs)

Edited by Reno Blade, 17 April 2015 - 11:03 PM.

[HlynkaCG]

Project_Mercy, on 27 September 2014 - 03:10 PM, said:

It's a copout with the marauder and warhammer.

harmony gold doesn't own rights to Warhammer or Marauder (or rifleman, etc), They own rights to the Officer's Battlepod, Destroids, etc. When they look the same, they have copyright on the images. But if they do not look the same, they have no basis for litigation.

I find it exceedingly unlikely that Alex couldn't draw up a marauder or warhammer that kept the concept and hardpoints the same and still looked awesome. If anything egg-shaped with arms hung down was able to be sued by HG, then the Timberwolf would be liable, and basically 30% of every mecha anime in the history of ever.

None of this would stop HG from suing the pants off of PGI, or tying MWO up in miles of red tape for years just as HG has done every other time the subject has been breached.


They don't have to win, just not loose, because PGI will run out of lawyers guns and money long before HG does.