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[SethAbercromby]

bad arcade kitty, on 05 May 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

3 ac-5 4 flamer jager looks as a cool build

That one actually caught my eye as well and after initial mock-building in smurfy can be build with a decent-sized engine and heat neutral AC5s

Since you only need to worry about heat with your AC5s on Terra (if at all), you can use the flamers with pretty high abundance before heat build up kicks in and troll silly clanners at short range.

[IraqiWalker]

Telmasa, on 05 May 2015 - 02:51 PM, said:

Time for another offering.

Some of these are more head-shaking than full face-palm builds, mind you.






(King Crab)


(Mad Dog)

(Jagermech A...spent the match mostly in reverse, wasn't a win for us)

This is painful to go through.

[TLxB]

Nyuuu, on 29 September 2014 - 02:12 PM, said:

This is still the most beautiful thing I have ever seen

Its a mech monster!!! Run for ur lives!!!

[Sarlic]

There's nothjng wrong with that Jager A...

Actually a decent build!

Edited by Sarlic, 10 May 2015 - 11:10 AM.

[IraqiWalker]

Literally just happened 3:20 AM PST 5/11/2015

ON A RAVEN 3L!!!!

[SmoothCriminal]

Telmasa, on 05 May 2015 - 02:51 PM, said:

Time for another offering.

Some of these are more head-shaking than full face-palm builds, mind you.






(King Crab)


(Mad Dog)

(Jagermech A...spent the match mostly in reverse, wasn't a win for us)

the 6 S-SRM 2 & 2 UAC5 MadDog is my build. the Streaks work as heat neutral CC while the ACs build DPS. It worked ... relatively... well. Still swapped out the UACs for LPLs though.

[GenJack]

Last night I saw a Cat C4 with only 4 lrm 5s .... He was raining lrms the whole match and never leaving enemy base....

I called out to him and said "Dude... your build... isn't that great... Lrm 5s will always be blocked by ams."

But he swore that he was pwning us all and killed our direwolf... <.< >.>

He wasn't even firing them all at the same time... and the direwolf was fired on by the whole enemy team because he got in a bad position on river city.

[Telmasa]

Sarlic, on 10 May 2015 - 11:09 AM, said:

There's nothjng wrong with that Jager A...
Actually a decent build!

God I hope you are trolling, it was painful spending 8 minutes watching him back to the corner of the map only to lose to a swathe of half-dead mechs.

IraqiWalker, on 11 May 2015 - 02:22 AM, said:

Literally just happened 3:20 AM PST 5/11/2015
ON A RAVEN 3L!!!!

He probably is a new player bought a Huginn, saw that SRM4s must be OP, doesn't know about the quirkening BS yet, and tried the same loadout with some ECM....

SmoothCriminal, on 11 May 2015 - 04:53 AM, said:

the 6 S-SRM 2 & 2 UAC5 MadDog is my build. the Streaks work as heat neutral CC while the ACs build DPS. It worked ... relatively... well. Still swapped out the UACs for LPLs though.

The one I screenshotted has regular SRM-2s, not Streaks. I suppose the LPLs are more reasonable in that you don't have ammo limitation dangers.

Overall more of a minor head-shake than a facepalm, granted.

[SnagaDance]

Sarlic, on 10 May 2015 - 11:09 AM, said:

There's nothjng wrong with that Jager A...

Actually a decent build!

Telmasa, on 11 May 2015 - 01:19 PM, said:

God I hope you are trolling, it was painful spending 8 minutes watching him back to the corner of the map only to lose to a swathe of half-dead mechs.

That just means he played it wrong. Seen often enough when some rookie grabs a meta mech from the rack with no actual idea to play it. Now that Jager is far from meta but should prove a quite decent medium range group supporter and later game clean-up mech. If he'd stay with the group in the second line that is, and does not use the back-peddalling herpy-derp moves that you witnessed.

[Telmasa]

SnagaDance, on 11 May 2015 - 10:54 PM, said:

That just means he played it wrong. Seen often enough when some rookie grabs a meta mech from the rack with no actual idea to play it. Now that Jager is far from meta but should prove a quite decent medium range group supporter and later game clean-up mech. If he'd stay with the group in the second line that is, and does not use the back-peddalling herpy-derp moves that you witnessed.

Ehhhhhhhh.

Any 'good' pilot can make do with a 'bad' build, I'd rather see a ballistic/missile mix on the Jager-A than the dual large lasers. (though 2 UAC/5+2ERLL was effective on my Jager-DD til I decided having a STD engine was more fun & went with MPLs - midsection lasers aren't that bad, granted).

[Sarlic]

Telmasa, on 11 May 2015 - 01:19 PM, said:

God I hope you are trolling, it was painful spending 8 minutes watching him back to the corner of the map only to lose to a swathe of half-dead mechs.

Well i know it's a decent build. Because i build it for my housemate. I think its him in that screenshot because i see no one else with my build. I dont share builds. He likes Jagers. Although he has much to learn i can crank some pretty good damage out of that thing. I have tried it.

That A is ment to walk with the team as a second line. (71/73 km/h mind you.) That jager has 4 weapongroups. LPL is to inflict damage and tear up armor, the machine gun is to critc the open component paired with the LPL.

The LRM 5 can be a supressor and or one salvo volley. Paired on 4 on supressing Assaults and 5 on enemies who are non Assault. The supressing works very well because other teammates can finish the Assault while the Assault is disoriented (shaked) from that missile fire. It pratically makes any mech to pull back to cover.

I say it's a decent build. Non meta, and it works well if you learn how to use it.

Edited by Sarlic, 12 May 2015 - 01:27 AM.

[Tiamat of the Sea]

Been seeing a rash of staggeringly bizarre assault class IS 'mechs lately.

For instance, the AS7-S Atlas armed with one LRM-20 and two Medium Lasers.

Or the AS7-D Atlas carrying an AC/20, a PPC, and a Large Pulse Laser (one energy weapon per arm).

[SmoothCriminal]

Telmasa, on 11 May 2015 - 01:19 PM, said:

The one I screenshotted has regular SRM-2s, not Streaks. I suppose the LPLs are more reasonable in that you don't have ammo limitation dangers.

Overall more of a minor head-shake than a facepalm, granted.

I was bored of the SRM4/6 meta, and my MDD A uses the 6 LRM5 build. There's not a lot you can do with those MDD-C arms (especially as clan ACs are so poor), but feel free to post some suggestions...

[bad arcade kitty]

two c-uac 5 and some lrms/streaks? also it seems there is no need to use clan ac when uac are simply better even in the ordinary jam-free mode

[Telmasa]

Sarlic, on 12 May 2015 - 01:25 AM, said:

I say it's a decent build. Non meta, and it works well if you learn how to use it.

I like to think I'm a master of non-meta builds; I say there's better ways to build a Jagermech. Don't believe me - check out the entries for the champion mech rebuild...some of them are silly, too, mind you, but there's some good examples.

SmoothCriminal, on 12 May 2015 - 02:18 AM, said:

I was bored of the SRM4/6 meta, and my MDD A uses the 6 LRM5 build. There's not a lot you can do with those MDD-C arms (especially as clan ACs are so poor), but feel free to post some suggestions...

SRM2s just seem quite hot to me and you have to maintain face-staring; and clan ACs of any kind just...stink. I've tried so hard to make clan ACs work, and even with the best possible hard points (summoner torsos), whether UAC or LBX or whatever, it just sucked.

The -C arms are kinda meant to be used with the -C torsos too, cause both torsos together give you 20% ballistic cooldown - which is pretty hefty, especially since clan mechs usually get no quirk love.

I had alot of fun getting basics on that variant with 3 MPL on the right arm & Gauss on the left arm; I'm sure it'd have made an even meaner brawler if I used an LBX20 or UAC/20 (since if you're up close, you can mitigate the problems of those things).

I just wouldn't try using the missiles & ballistics together on the Mad Dog, I'd feel very disjointed and like I was trying to do two different things at once. So I'd either do the -C torsos + a ballistic + lasers on the other arm, or if I wanted the SRM-2 love I'd do something like this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0c27fa4a159c851 to accentuate the brawling face-shaking thing that SRM-2s are for.

Headshake rather than a facepalm, man.

[bad arcade kitty]

saw a boomcat last game
he made 1 salvo for the macth and died...

i mean i know it's not a headshaking or facepalming build but it's a pretty rare one, i think the very first which i met and it's... questionable

[kosmos1214]

bad arcade kitty, on 16 May 2015 - 05:24 AM, said:

saw a boomcat last game
he made 1 salvo for the macth and died...

i mean i know it's not a headshaking or facepalming build but it's a pretty rare one, i think the very first which i met and it's... questionable

iv seen 2 others it definitely not the most common build

[SnagaDance]

kosmos1214, on 17 May 2015 - 03:09 PM, said:

iv seen 2 others it definitely not the most common build

Tried both a Boomcat and a Boomjager last year, found both lacking.

[Zergling]

Just saw a Boar's Head with an AC10, 2x ER Large Laser and a SRM6.

And he died to an XL side torso loss.

[kosmos1214]

SnagaDance, on 17 May 2015 - 11:21 PM, said:

Tried both a Boomcat and a Boomjager last year, found both lacking.

its not a bad build presay the jager will do it beater in every way the big thing is that the boom consept relays on you oponent not reilizing the thret and leting you get close