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[keith]

i'm gonna guess this list is based off the current meta right? a mech can change its use by 1 balance pass. still waiting on judgement depending on how it turns out

[MerryIguana]

FupDup, on 30 September 2014 - 01:11 PM, said:

Might be due to the Jenner having better torso pitch, and more critslots to play with due to no LAA and a slightly higher engine rating.

I consider them pretty even, but i can see the logic in that i guess.

[Varik Ronain]

Ronan, on 30 September 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

All the mechs I like to run are Tier4 or 5... might explain some things...

Same here bud But it will be nice to see what they come up with for my c4-c1 pults and all my wolvies!

[Bilbo]

I'm curious to see where the new Atlas will fall. Will it come in without quirks?

Edited by Bilbo, 30 September 2014 - 01:16 PM.

[andrijkc]

missing the Hugin RVN-H, maybe it is a tier 7 mech....

Edited by andrijkc, 30 September 2014 - 01:42 PM.

[FupDup]

Here is the tier list as a .PNG, to avoid formatting issues:




Niko, you can use this in the OP if you like.

[1453 R]

I will state that as a (pre-Clan) Trebuchet pilot, my eyebrows sailed northwards when I saw that the Loup de Guerre was rated as being a tier above all the rest of the Trebuchets. I'm sitting here, all like "...okay. Which [redacted] ultracomp gave Piranha THAT advice from their iPhone at the bar one night?"

I mean heck, it doesn't really matter a ton either way I suppose, but it's just weird. Maybe the LDG got bumped up a tier for having a supah-classy paint job?

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 30 September 2014 - 03:36 PM.
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[Varik Ronain]

I do not see how the A1 cat is a tier 3... yes you can go splat cat but every hardpoint is arm mounted and max armor is 40 on a GIANT cat ear that gets bigger with more launchers.... (new cat quirk) remove the extra dvd players strapped to the missile boxes.

[Adiuvo]

Varik Ronain, on 30 September 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

I do not see how the A1 cat is a tier 3... yes you can go splat cat but every hardpoint is arm mounted and max armor is 40 on a GIANT cat ear that gets bigger with more launchers.... (new cat quirk) remove the extra dvd players strapped to the missile boxes.

ALRM5x6.

[cleghorn6]

Looks like there will be a bunch of replaying old mechs once these quirks come in. Good times.

[hero2zero]

I used to run the ECM spider exclusively, and I really love the mech, but I feel it and the Raven-3L need to be bumped a tier so the 3L is T1 and the 5D is T2.

[Postumus]

Please bump the HGN-733C down with the rest of the highlanders, it isn't that much better just for being able to slot an AC/20. Also, consider putting the 733P down on tier 4 - its only claim to fame was as a 4 PPC boat back when PPCs and jumpjets were still a thing.

Excellent job on the mediums.

Consider putting Orions on tier 5. They have hitbox problems on par with the Awesomes, and no one plays them. I will literally go an entire night without seeing one, 5 out of 7 days of the week.

Finally, why are tier 1 IS mechs not getting quirks? The point is to make them competitive with clans, but clan mechs are still a head above the first tier IS mechs.

Edited by Postumus, 30 September 2014 - 01:29 PM.

[Pjwned]

FupDup, on 30 September 2014 - 01:11 PM, said:

Might be due to the Jenner having better torso pitch, and more critslots to play with due to no LAA and a slightly higher engine rating.

I was going to post that having more crit slots to play with isn't a very big deal, but after playing around on Smurfy a little bit I found that on top of the 295 engine cap (which means only 1 extra internal heatsink possible instead of 2, which also means even less crit slots on the mech and is also less efficient) it actually does limit options a fair amount, whereas the JR7-F doesn't really have such an issue.

An interesting topic really; when discussing where Jenners go on the tier list though I guess I would just like to bring up how big their center torso is, which can be quite a hassle.

Edited by Pjwned, 30 September 2014 - 01:29 PM.

[Cattra Kell]

hero2zero, on 30 September 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

I used to run the ECM spider exclusively, and I really love the mech, but I feel it and the Raven-3L need to be bumped a tier so the 3L is T1 and the 5D is T2.

There might be a reason why these are lower tier.

Can't wait until all the quirks are revealed though!

Edited by Cattra Kell, 30 September 2014 - 01:29 PM.

[FiglioDiBatman]

@Niko: what about Huginn? I can't find it in the mech tier list.. I assume it is considered tier 6 ;-)

[Solahma]

FupDup, on 30 September 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

Also, are GRF-S and GRF-1E both referring to the Sparky? If so, the mech is listed twice lol.

this lol

[Kyle Wright]

Only reason the 733C is Tier 2 was cause of the JJ Sniping META when JJs actually worked really good on highlanders. As is 733C maybe should be Tier 3 and the rest should be moved to Tier 4 especially the 733P.

[Mcgral18]

Gas Guzzler, on 30 September 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

Cool I agree with most of that.

Should the BNC-3M be up to Tier 4 from Tier 3 though? No ballistic or missile, strictly energy boat... not quite as useful as the 3S and definitely not as powerful as the 3E....

Yes....yes it should be. Tier 4 must have all the good cooling quirks....

It's just a horribad energy boat, that requires hefty cooling quirks

[Russ Bullock]

Will be monitoring feedback but not commenting a lot - if we hear swaying arguments we will do some shifting around

[Sky Hawk]

Nikolai Lubkiewicz, on 30 September 2014 - 01:00 PM, said:

Apparently, Quotes don't like Tables.

Wow... I thought, I will never see here a Table... .. It's a very strange feeling... Can it be... that one day.... we will become new Mech datas, not in the old "1-meter-form"?..