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[Insidious Johnson]

Kiss me!

I gave blood!

I voted!

I Support MWO at every opportunity!

Need to see that in button form in the freaking STORE WE STILL DO NOT HAVE!

[Iulianus]

You speak as if throwing money at the game during it's development is going to guarantee it's success. I think the founders packages are a little steeply priced. $120 is significantly more than any game I have paid up front for. Over the years, I have given plenty of money to Steam, Blizzard, EA, and a few others. However, I have never put forth that much in one chunk.

The genre alone is not enough to make a successful game. Playability, balanced gameplay, and a micropurchase model that doesn't give paying players an unfair advantage over non-paying players. I have started into WAY too many f2p games and been ran out of town by paying players all too often. It's nothing against this project, but the statistics acquired by my own experience does not favor the f2p game.

[Kumakichi]

"money talks"... uh ok whatever. I'd like to see MWO be successful and I've been achin to play the next mechwarrior game for so long. Well I'm hopeful.

However a better slogan for this game might be "I want to believe". I'll gladly pony up the money ASAP, just show us something. A game this close to release should have a bit more in game footage released so we can judge for ourselves.

More power to the people who already paid good money towards this game. As for me I'm a bit more frugal with my money when it comes to buying games, especially after wasting $60 on Diablo 3.

[Kanatta Jing]

Iulianus, on 24 June 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

You speak as if throwing money at the game during it's development is going to guarantee it's success.

True, it guarantees nothing.

But if the project runs out of cash in developement it will guarantee that it will fail.

[Elizander]

Kumakichi, on 24 June 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

"money talks"... uh ok whatever. I'd like to see MWO be successful and I've been achin to play the next mechwarrior game for so long. Well I'm hopeful.

However a better slogan for this game might be "I want to believe". I'll gladly pony up the money ASAP, just show us something. A game this close to release should have a bit more in game footage released so we can judge for ourselves.

More power to the people who already paid good money towards this game. As for me I'm a bit more frugal with my money when it comes to buying games, especially after wasting $60 on Diablo 3.

Just sell all your items and it's probably worth $60 on the RMAH. Everyone in my group of friends who played D3 already sold more than the game's worth. I don't think it's a good or stable way to make a living though. I just sold what I picked up while playing normally.

As for the Founder's packages, I think it's simply as is. Some people in these forums have been waiting for months to throw their money at the developers and I think that at least a few people would have done so even if the Founder's package was a simple 'Donate' button. I'd include myself in that group. $120 is worth a lot for me since I'm in a 3rd world country with just a regular paying job, but for me it's worth handing it over even if the game is months away from release. That's just the way it is.

[bLitzLRC]

"I'm a statistic for people who will pay money because it's battletech. I'm totally fine with throwing money at battletech for the sake of battletech being battletech. "
- best line on this thread.
You gotta understand I paid $60 (Hey if I was making money I'd pay the $120.) just for all the bs and hard work these guys have gone through to get the world I escape to back up and running.

[S n a k e]

I believe.
Simple enough but it still rings true.
I believe.

[Smooth]

No one does anything for free. Would you go to your job if your boss told you he wasn't going to pay you? The developers and owners of Pirhana games have families and children to feed and they're not sitting at their desks designing this game so people can have fun and never pay a dime. The Founders is our way of telling them "thank you for your hard work" It's appreciated and if you give us a game that we love to play, we'll help support your company, thus they keep their jobs and care for their families. I've purchased every Battletach/Mechwarrior game for every playform, the board games, tha plastic miniatures and the entire book series......and I'll continue to support Battletech and any company that feeds my junkie appitite for destructive Mech combat!

[Kracow]

Smooth, on 24 June 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

No one does anything for free. Would you go to your job if your boss told you he wasn't going to pay you? The developers and owners of Pirhana games have families and children to feed and they're not sitting at their desks designing this game so people can have fun and never pay a dime. The Founders is our way of telling them "thank you for your hard work" It's appreciated and if you give us a game that we love to play, we'll help support your company, thus they keep their jobs and care for their families. I've purchased every Battletach/Mechwarrior game for every playform, the board games, tha plastic miniatures and the entire book series......and I'll continue to support Battletech and any company that feeds my junkie appitite for destructive Mech combat!

They are not working for free, they are getting paid regardless if anyone bought the founders package or not. They only reason it exists is to judge the viability of of a certain package and pricing options for future plans that might or might not be sold.

All the better for them, if they find they sell 10x the amount of $120 options vs. $30 options that is some good data to take back to marketing and accounting to build a future package that will sell the best.

Support it or not get it's whatever value you assign for yourself.
Some people are blind with money, some people take more time to make a decision that is all.

Good luck to this game as we all hope it's worth spending future dollars on it.

[Kusak Snowtiger]

I consider it this way. I have loved this game for over 20 years of my life. Considering where I live. This is the closest I will every come to playing the TT version of BT ever again. But in this case. I will get to go out with 11 other players or however many in a match. and slug it out against just as many more on the other side. I invested in STOR recently ive played it for a couple of months. Now that diablo 3 is out. it is dead as far as im concerned.. But in 3 months ive invested more in STOR by the time I bought the game and subscription then I have invested in this. And I invested that money up front as well in a game that otherrs were playing and recomending. This is nothing more in many ways. Id love to be legendary. but the 120 is a bit steeper than I can bite off. something about living in an old house in a financialy depressed area. So I contriubted what I could and im happy with my one mech. You spend what you want to spend or you choose not to spend. Just because I spent is my choice. if you dont like it. tough luck. My choice my money.

[Delthius]

It's not purchasing something based off video and artwork. People here who are a little older really remember the joys of the old mechwarrior games. Some of my fondest gaming memories were being 12 at my dad's house playing Mechwarrior 3 on his computer with an awesome state of the art throttle and joystick. [/color]

I'm a competitive gamer, in the top 2% of a few different pvp mmo's. I've been waiting over a decade for someone to launch a legitimate, badass online mechwarrior pvp game and this is it! The original poster of this thread is spot on; you vote with your money, in any aspect of life. People complain that Wal Mart has taken over the world and is now practically owned by China, yet people go buy things from there because its more convenient or they figure one or two bucks doesn't matter. Well it does, a lot more than you think. [/color]

You're not a fool to invest in this company, that's all the Founder's Pack is. The Founder's Pack system was most likely implemented to help polish the game instead of just rush it out the door when it's incomplete(*cough diablo 3 cough*). To me, that shows Piranha really cares about their community. They should take this last minute surge of cash, take their time, and get things done properly. [/color]

Edited by Delthius, 27 June 2012 - 05:32 AM.

[Mad1]

One statistic that would interest me is what percentage of the Beta testers have bought a Founders package. That would at least give me an idea as to how people are finding the game during testing.

[Vengeance1]

SyberSmoke, on 23 June 2012 - 02:03 PM, said:

There have been many people talking about why to put you're coin on a game that you have yet to try. There have been many a reason about why you should not. Recriminations, trolling, and a plethora of other things happening in between. But what is the real reason you should pony up your money?

The simple answer is because your money talks. Your saying why you would or did not pay does not even register in the minds of the people with the cash. The people that front millions of dollars to pay for labor, hardware, software, an office...they do not give a damn about you if you do not pay. What they care about is if they will make back their money, if they can double their investment, and if it can happen again!

Plain and simple...money talks. People putting up millions on kickstarer to get a long dead franchise revived. Founder of a new game studio fighting tooth and nail to justify why a investor should part with their money. A million other situations that all speak to why I have a gold badge right now.

Simply put, I am now a statistic. I am a value on some analytic that another game developer can use to get money to make a game I may enjoy. I have helped not only Piranha and IGP, but many other developers that are faced with rising costs and a skeptical market. And that...that is worth $120...don't you think?

Sir, I could not have said it better myself. Bringing back Mechwarrior after all this time is a challenge that not many would have accepted. There are thousands upon thousands, presumably, of people who have waited a very long time for someone to bring back a franchise that we all dearly loved. Now, PGI has done just that. I ponied up my USD $120 without a second thought just to show my support for the game and my way of saying thanks to the developers. Now, all I can ask is that the game stays alive for many years to come. I'm sure many of you feel the same way.

Veng

[Diomed]

If you think preordering this game is an 'investment' I weep for your retirement portfolio.

Yes, you are a statistic, not the one you think but oh my, yes, you are a stat.

This game MAY be worth the $120 Founder Package, it may not be. The simple fact is that the devs have not shared enough data to make an intelligent, informed decision. If you are in the closed beta, right now, you may have enough data to make the call; but even then you have to realize that the game is in flux. What they are playing right now in beta is not what will be on harddrives in a month and a half to two months.

You are using wish-thinking and emotion to drive your purchase. That is the kind of 'investment' strategy that gets you into Enron, not Apple.

[Voyager I]

I can completely understand people who want to see what the game has to offer before they put money on it. Most of the time, that's the camp I stand in.

However, BattleTech games are among my absolute favorite genres. They combine first-person action with giant stompy war machines and the wonderful joy of tinkering in a lab to customize your ride. It's not a sort of gameplay you can get from other genres, and nobody has been doing it for the last ten years. It's not just BattleTech. Starsiege was my favorite back in the day, but that series is even deader. The genre just hasn't been touched in a decade outside of fan mods and eastern-style games with a completely different feel, and there's only so far you can get with Living Legends and replaying the old games.

I know, as far as financial decisions go, that's it's a very dubious investment (I'm shelling out double what I normally pay for an AAA product in the hopes that this one will be decent), but I'm willing to put my money down to show that one of my favorite genres of game can be profitable in the hopes that the next iteration of the franchise will happen in less than a decade. Hell, maybe if this game does well enough PGI can go make that single player game they were looking at originally.

Edited by Voyager I, 27 June 2012 - 06:11 AM.

[Vengeance1]

Blindspot, on 23 June 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

I want to see this succeed. I've greatly missed Mechwarrior. $120 is a night of drinking, so I'm not really sweating the cost.

You only spend $120 on a night of drinking? Amateur......

[Kenaris]

captn rentoshi, on 23 June 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

funny how the guy with the free ride makes a comment about tampons he hehehe

Really???

1. The game isn't even out so no one is playing ( excludeing beta) how is that a Free ride. i don't care how much money you payed up front

2. It' a free to play game so saying some one is geting a Free ride is kinda redundant ( i know it's a big word but you can get help to look it up)

3. How do you know people geting the ''Free Ride'' won't spend money on the game at some point when it's out


Really it's not the Game that has put me off of Mechwarrior Online and made me to finally choose to pass it up it's the Asinine community since the founders packs came out.

It's great that so many choose to support the game and it's also great that the majority have done so quietly with out having to seek validation of there purchase on the forums .. posting like there God's Gift to the Gaming Community and Game Industry.
While anyone who hasn't or doesn't share there views or not really wanting to take the risk is taking the ''free ride''. is a welfare player, or has no money.

So good job guys you just cost PGI and Mechwarrior On line a Future Paying Customer and i probaly won't be the last.

Here is hoping the game can make it on your Super inflated Ego's and founder pack purchases

[Whip]

There is a very famous military unit with a very plain and simple motto

"Who Dares Wins"

Speaks for itself does it not.

I dared, if it comes off, I win, and at the same time did my part in supporting a great game and franchise.

You will sulk, ***** and complain about what ever it is that you will ***** or complain about on some subject for that particular day because that is what seems to be the most common troll food / thought process.

If it does not come about (god forbid), then what I spent and lost may have totalled my weekly cost on coffee.

So I have expensive tastes

Edited by Whip, 27 June 2012 - 06:27 AM.

[Taiji]

Tarantoga, on 27 June 2012 - 05:52 AM, said:

why do ppl have to make dozens topics with excuses why they bought overpriced game which they dont even have a chance to see/test before paying

Dozens of topics?

Reasoning is excusing?

Free is overpriced?

A package for rewarding people willing to help the game get developed without even having a chance to play the game seems completely logical to me.

It just needs rewards that help mitigate the risk to seem fair.

If MWO starts doing offers and promotions that make the Founder package seem stingy then that would be sad.

Or if they do a BF3 and actually reduce the quality of their players' experience by lowering their queue priority unless they pay up for 'premium'... I hadn't realised I needed to rant about that, lol

[Melkiot Doriak]

I agree with SyberSmoke.

I enjoy the fact i can "vote" for a game i like.

For the Dragon !