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[Dock Steward]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 October 2014 - 10:10 AM, said:

brilliant.

Or would be if it was remotely similar.

Also, pretty sure that would be Speciesism.

Look, I agree, this nonsense has gone on far too long, and yes, it is basically all my fault, but just because I implied having ECM is better than not having ECM, doesn't mean I think anyone is handicapping anything by not having it. I never said that nor was my intention to imply it. I think it was unfair and rude of you to claim that I hold that belief seeing as how I do not.

I never thought someone would get so bent out of shape over one capitalized word. The intention was to emphasize that the DD-C is the only assault with ECM, not that it is hands down the best Atlas.

Edited by Dock Steward, 14 October 2014 - 10:16 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Joseph Mallan, on 14 October 2014 - 04:26 AM, said:

D-DC. Having an assault ECM is a good thing.I just need to drop some coin to instantly master the Atlas-S.

There is a big difference between How I said, "The D-DC is my favorite Atlas."

Dock Steward, on 13 October 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

You do what makes you happy, of course, but there's ONE Assault with ECM in the game, and you didn't want it?

And how you replied to August's choice of the Atlas-D.

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 13 October 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

*snicker* he went for the D

Ok Ill grow up XD

I liked Buddah's post cause he took the effort to poke fun at himself, while saying he thought the D was a bad choice. That makes a big difference in how perception can be influenced.

When I worked as a Bartender I was told there is a right and wrong way to tell a drunk to stop drinking. Between you and me, Which quote(your's or Mine) do you think would upset a drunk?

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 14 October 2014 - 10:20 AM.

[Sarlic]

The problem all Atlas have is with being the D-DC a exception due it's ECM and HP is that ST is easily wrecked. I hope to see it solved in the next patch. I know the Atlas is on the tier list and as should be.

The ST was always a weak point but managable to shield it off on all chassis. But with the invasion arriving it's much much harder to shield your ST off before it gets wrecked by just a few hits. Yes, just a few hits are needed to take Atlas ST out.

On one hand its not a particulary bad thing. But the Atlas is already slow and the HP does not meet up anymore with the clanners and more.

CT is still managable, but hardly.

The only solution i would apply is a small internal structure update which makes the ST last longer. CT could use a very slight armor increase, but that's it.

I do still pretty well now, but i see alot of new players and even veteran struggling with the Atlas. It's a hard chassis and i pilot it all times.

Edited by Sarlic, 14 October 2014 - 10:24 AM.

[Dock Steward]

Joseph Mallan, on 14 October 2014 - 10:18 AM, said:

There is a big difference between How I said, "The D-DC is my favorite Atlas."
And how you replied to August's choice of the Atlas-D.

I liked Buddah's post cause he took the effort to poke fun at himself, while saying he thought the D was a bad choice. That makes a big difference in how perception can be influenced.

You read my post wrong. (As in not in the way I intended it). My fault? Your fault? I only see two people complaining. Maybe there are others who read it the same way you did, but that really doesn't change anything. I phrased it the way I did to bring emphasis to the fact that most people seem to agree that ECM is a no-brainer. Am I wrong? Doesn't it seem like most people think that? Sure, not all, certainly, but most?

[Sadist Cain]

[Bishop Steiner]

Dock Steward, on 14 October 2014 - 10:16 AM, said:

I never thought someone would get so bent out of shape over one capitalized word. The intention was to emphasize that the DD-C is the only assault with ECM, not that it is hands down the best Atlas.

Never got bent out of shape over your use of a word. At least, til AFTER, you did.

Dock Steward, on 14 October 2014 - 10:16 AM, said:

Look, I agree, this nonsense has gone on far too long, and yes, it is basically all my fault, but just because I implied having ECM is better than not having ECM, doesn't mean I think anyone is handicapping anything by not having it. I never said that nor was my intention to imply it. I think it was unfair and rude of you to claim that I hold that belief seeing as how I do not.

And the victim card, really? Firstly, I never said it was "all your fault". Read the Thread. Plenty of "D-DC" or bust to go around.
If you take exception to my using your post as the basis to comment from, fine, that I can get. Could have been easily and simply resolved without the attitude.

As for your intention, one cannot read that, for good or ill. One can go by what was written, and the emphasis YOU placed. Which, combined by context of your earlier comment on the AS7-D (which really, how else does one take the "oh boy"? It certainly was not enthusiastic agreement) is pretty strongly indicative that not taking the D-DC is the wrong choice.

So hey, a simple, hey dude, I think you took my post wrong, might have been a simple expedient to avoid this, in which case I could have simply replied, "oh, cool, actually, took it wrong, but was using it to reply to the thread in general, my bad".

Because counter to what Sarlic or Lil Locky try to believe, I generally am more than willing to work WITH people, including many I have had strong and contentious disagreements with. Not claiming perfection, just pointing out your own comment about "mature posts".

Dock Steward, on 14 October 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:

You read my post wrong. (As in not in the way I intended it). My fault? Your fault?

This would have been a simple end to the entire "matter"

[Tahribator]

Oh god the drama is overwhelming. Can we just talk about our favourite stompy robots instead?

[Joseph Mallan]

Dock Steward, on 14 October 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:

You read my post wrong. (As in not in the way I intended it). My fault? Your fault? I only see two people complaining. Maybe there are others who read it the same way you did, but that really doesn't change anything. I phrased it the way I did to bring emphasis to the fact that most people seem to agree that ECM is a no-brainer. Am I wrong? Doesn't it seem like most people think that? Sure, not all, certainly, but most?

Did I read it wrong? Or are you wiggling. I Said ECM is an advantage, I did not imply it was bad to choose anything else, you did. You were indirectly (on purpose or not) insulting in your word choice. It is insinuated in your word choice.

[Bishop Steiner]

Tahribator, on 14 October 2014 - 10:26 AM, said:

Oh god the drama is overwhelming. Can we just talk about our favourite stompy robots instead?

Neg.

Because talking about our favorite stompy robot is to force our opinion on what everyones favorite stompy robot should be! And dangit, it should be the Vindicator!!!!

Wait..did I just admit that in public?!?!?!

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 14 October 2014 - 10:30 AM, said:

Did I read it wrong? Or are you wiggling. I Said ECM is an advantage, I did not imply it was bad to choose anything else, you did. You were indirectly (on purpose or not) insulting in your word choice. It is insinuated in your word choice.

Eh, I can get behind it not being read as intended. You've done it, I've done it.

Just saying, that approaching it from that way in the first place, can end things rather quickly.

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 14 October 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

RS is better.

[Joseph Mallan]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 October 2014 - 10:32 AM, said:

Eh, I can get behind it not being read as intended. You've done it, I've done it.

Just saying, that approaching it from that way in the first place, can end things rather quickly.


RS is better.

I know a guy on a forum. His posts read very confrontational. I met the player at a Convention and heard him saying what I read. Big difference. What he didn't do was emphasize words, he just typed it out and we had to determine the voice he used. He and I have been pals since!

[Dock Steward]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 October 2014 - 10:26 AM, said:

Never got bent out of shape over your use of a word. At least, til AFTER, you did.

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And the victim card, really? Firstly, I never said it was "all your fault". Read the Thread. Plenty of "D-DC" or bust to go around.
If you take exception to my using your post as the basis to comment from, fine, that I can get. Could have been easily and simply resolved without the attitude.

As for your intention, one cannot read that, for good or ill. One can go by what was written, and the emphasis YOU placed. Which, combined by context of your earlier comment on the AS7-D (which really, how else does one take the "oh boy"? It certainly was not enthusiastic agreement) is pretty strongly indicative that not taking the D-DC is the wrong choice.

So hey, a simple, hey dude, I think you took my post wrong, might have been a simple expedient to avoid this, in which case I could have simply replied, "oh, cool, actually, took it wrong, but was using it to reply to the thread in general, my bad".

Because counter to what Sarlic or Lil Locky try to believe, I generally am more than willing to work WITH people, including many I have had strong and contentious disagreements with. Not claiming perfection, just pointing out your own comment about "mature posts".


This would have been a simple end to the entire "matter"

Okay, it seems to me that we are on a similar page now. For the record, though, I wasn't playing the "victim card." I was merely trying to acknowledge that I had the bigger hand in keeping this argument going. You implied that I had the bigger hand, and I was trying to agree.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 October 2014 - 10:32 AM, said:

Eh, I can get behind it not being read as intended. You've done it, I've done it.

Just saying, that approaching it from that way in the first place, can end things rather quickly.


RS is better.

I cant figure out if I WANT to correct you or if I want to let it go lol

[Joseph Mallan]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 October 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

Neg.

Because talking about our favorite stompy robot is to force our opinion on what everyones favorite stompy robot should be! And dangit, it should be the Vindicator!!!!

Wait..did I just admit that in public?!?!?!

No just on the internet! and that was probably done from the privacy of your home!

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Joseph Mallan, on 14 October 2014 - 10:35 AM, said:

I know a guy on a forum. His posts read very confrontational. I met the player at a Convention and heard him saying what I read. Big difference. What he didn't do was emphasize words, he just typed it out and we had to determine the voice he used. He and I have been pals since!

Um Id be kinda scared if I met someone at a convention and they started reading forum posts Id made. That would be very stalker ish

[Joseph Mallan]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 14 October 2014 - 10:35 AM, said:

I cant figure out if I WANT to correct you or if I want to let it go lol

You cannot correct personal preference Buddah.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Joseph Mallan, on 14 October 2014 - 10:37 AM, said:

You cannot correct personal preference Buddah.

You CAN correct that I wasnt talking about mechs

and you missed the joke so totally

like orbitally over your head

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 13 October 2014 - 07:49 PM, said:

Whenever we're on Mining collective everyone makes jokes about going down on the D (line)... or getting blackjacks on the D (line)

XD

hence why I said that...

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 14 October 2014 - 10:40 AM.

[Dock Steward]

Can we all agree that there IS only ONE assault mech with ECM, though?

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Dock Steward, on 14 October 2014 - 10:40 AM, said:

Can we all agree that there IS only ONE assault mech with ECM, though?

Yeah this thread is so far off topic it needs a lock