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#1 Ozric

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 10:43 AM

With so many toggle commands in the game now why not add one more? I can not stress enough how useful a Tag Toggle keybind would be. Make it so!

#2 LauLiao

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 11:19 AM

I personally don't ever leave my TAG on that long. The laser flashing around gives away your position so I only use TAG sparingly, so I wouldn't use the toggle.

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 11:22 AM

I normally have to bind it to a mouse button, because they are the easiest to hold down while fighting. I would seriously use the toggle all the time. I like that leaving it on gives away your position too, it automatically balances the option.

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 11:36 AM

Perhaps a unpopular opinion but I think that since TAG burns ECM, reaches out to 750m, increases accuracy, and decreases lock time you should have to activate it yourself.

It's pretty powerful. It doesn't need a toggle. It should be at least a little difficult to use.

#5 Oogalook

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 11:56 AM

BUMP! I been needing this!

#6 Sean von Steinike

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:07 PM

View PostEyeOne, on 13 October 2014 - 11:36 AM, said:

Perhaps a unpopular opinion but I think that since TAG burns ECM, reaches out to 750m, increases accuracy, and decreases lock time you should have to activate it yourself.

It's pretty powerful. It doesn't need a toggle. It should be at least a little difficult to use.

And yet, ECM has a mode toggle and is way more powerful than a TAG.

#7 Thorqemada

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:07 PM

Maybe i remove my TAG, you get shred to pieces as soon you stick the nose out so why TAG, even an Atlas melts in less time than it needs the LRM to lock and travel to the target...i use my Lurm pretty much as indirect fire only more and more since the Clans came out.

I refitted already my Thunderbolt, no TAG, no Artemis, no BAP, use the free weight to up the AC to an AC10 bcs it has the ability for the 1 hit final kill blow where the (U/)AC5 still plings.

PS; A Toggle would be nice to have though :)

Edited by Thorqemada, 13 October 2014 - 12:34 PM.


#8 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:20 PM

I built a physical switch on my keyboard that is essentially a TAG toggle.

#9 DONTOR

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:22 PM

View Postcdlord, on 13 October 2014 - 12:20 PM, said:

I built a physical switch on my keyboard that is essentially a TAG toggle.

That would be super immersive.. but still should be in the game now.

#10 LauLiao

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:29 PM

I've heard about people wedging a penny or dime into their keyboard to hold their TAG button down. I imagine scotch tape would work as well...

#11 Clit Beastwood

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:44 PM

I don't really see the need. I'm pretty good at using my fingers so it hasn't been an issue. Learn how to use the weapons, don't learn to rely on a crutch.

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:50 PM

+1

Please Russ can you just bow down to the audience a bit?

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:54 PM

View PostEyeOne, on 13 October 2014 - 11:36 AM, said:

Perhaps a unpopular opinion but I think that since TAG burns ECM, reaches out to 750m, increases accuracy, and decreases lock time you should have to activate it yourself.

It's pretty powerful. It doesn't need a toggle. It should be at least a little difficult to use.


It also takes up an energy hardpoint while dealing no damage itself, is situationally useful at best, and requires you to hold the laser on target constantly.

It's not even that it's difficult to use as is though, it's just annoying.

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:55 PM

yes please toggle

#15 zortesh

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 12:58 PM

I use macro for tag toggle, having a actual toggle for tag would be good, especially on mechs that are already using every easy to reach firegroup button.

IE my warhawk has 3xlrm15 a narc a ll and 3 mediums + a tag

Weapon group 1 is 3 mediums and a ll, weapon group 2 is a narc, 3 is lrm alpha + tag and 4 is lrm chainfire.

Ideally id have tag on its own separate button, but reaching up onto my keyboard to press and holdown the 5 or 6 button would remove my ability to walk or do anything else.... so i have it on my lrmfire button because thats the best compromise i can come up with, even if it means my first volley is wasted.

Edited by zortesh, 13 October 2014 - 12:59 PM.


#16 EyeOne

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 01:09 PM

View PostSean von Steinike, on 13 October 2014 - 12:07 PM, said:

And yet, ECM has a mode toggle and is way more powerful than a TAG.


ECM has a toggle that does absolutely nothing but counter other ECM. It's a mode switch not a on/off switch. TAG is a weapon. It works like a weapon.

#17 DONTOR

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 02:24 PM

View PostLauLiao, on 13 October 2014 - 12:29 PM, said:

I've heard about people wedging a penny or dime into their keyboard to hold their TAG button down. I imagine scotch tape would work as well...

It does work until you type in the chat then you have to reset it, and that can get annoying.

View PostFierostetz, on 13 October 2014 - 12:44 PM, said:

I don't really see the need. I'm pretty good at using my fingers so it hasn't been an issue. Learn how to use the weapons, don't learn to rely on a crutch.

A toggle is a crutch? Interesting view.

#18 Rebas Kradd

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 02:35 PM

View PostGlythe, on 13 October 2014 - 12:50 PM, said:

+1

Please Russ can you just bow down to the audience a bit?


It's not about that, it's just about PGI noticing. I'm pretty sure they've had zero real "community inflow" tools over the years.

That said, Russ has been paying attention to the forums a LOT over the past couple months, and a lot of small features like that have crept their way into the game during that time. AMS toggle, color-coded death messages, Conquest rewards, etc. So just make this request visible and someone will see it.

#19 Catra Lanis

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 02:45 PM

Speaking of which, is the TAG bonus broken? I was tagging tonight in my 3L but after each match I only got spotting bonus no TAG/NARC in the summary. I haven't done it much, in fact this is maybe the third time I have mounted a TAG but I clearly saw the crosshair icon over the bracketed enemy and I saw the LRM:s impact.

Edited by Catra Lanis, 13 October 2014 - 02:46 PM.


#20 Rhaegor

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 02:54 PM

Those who want a toggle use a macro now to do so. Why not just make it part of the game so those not aware enough to use a macro can have the option too?





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