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[GeminiWolf]

Xarian, on 15 October 2014 - 10:55 PM, said:

Gauss charge-up is apparently easy to work around.

Thats extremely old news...im pretty sure the first Macro use was to bypass the Guass Charge up... did you know oringally there was no charge up for Guass...yes, when it was implement the community at the time Raged and the first Macro for the game was created!... or something like that

[Variant1]

SI The Joker, on 16 October 2014 - 07:14 AM, said:

Pointless mechanic is pointless.

Its not pointless. Its stops non macro users from firing them at the same time. Even with macro theres still a delay between the 4 guass giving at least enough time to quickly twist the last 2 gauss rounds. Plus the dire has 21 ammo, good enough for maybe 2-3 kills if mechs arent twisting. Problematic but what can ya do

[Prototelis]

You know what is pointless?

Replying to someone who posted in 2014.

[Sjorpha]

El Bandito, on 05 February 2019 - 05:57 PM, said:

Not my experience. When I first made the Gauss macro I used exactly 750ms, and it fizzled about 20% of the time without firing, in live matches. The chance of misfire was heavily reduced after I made the charge timer more lenient by making it 900ms. For info, my average ping is 220ms and I regularly dip below 60 fps in live matches.

Also when I tested the RACro, in Testing Grounds it did a lot more damage than in Private Lobby. So latency or server stability does affect the timing.

It's strange but can't reproduce your results, I get no unreliability.

[SCHLIMMER BESTIMMER XXX]

Curccu, on 05 February 2019 - 05:30 AM, said:

Uuhh cool blast from the past thread...

What kind of advantage gauss macro gives you?

who said i use macro? i just use this mech )
its way too complicated to get into such stuff for me.i rather just play the game.
If i woud be a cheater in any way i woudnt have made it this far xD
really, check my profile

[The pessimistic optimist]

I don't like macro there well as far as I am concern cheats...if you can't work it under your own power and yea have to hand it off to the computer well I call BS.

Edited by SirSmokes, 13 February 2019 - 03:40 PM.

[Curccu]

SHRedo, on 13 February 2019 - 09:29 AM, said:

who said i use macro? i just use this mech )
its way too complicated to get into such stuff for me.i rather just play the game.
If i woud be a cheater in any way i woudnt have made it this far xD
really, check my profile

I mean you must have some kind of knowledge of how macros work to have some kind of base for your claims of them being cheating?

[Angel of Annihilation]

Greenjulius, on 15 October 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

The charge mechanic isn't there to make gauss hard to use, it's to desync it from being bundled with other weapons.

But it makes it so Gauss is hard to use.

Oh and I can pretty easily do that double tap with just the two buttons on my mouse.

Edited by Angel of Annihilation, 13 February 2019 - 04:24 PM.

[Variant1]

Prototelis, on 05 February 2019 - 09:14 PM, said:

You know what is pointless?

Replying to someone who posted in 2014.

You know what even more pointless?
Replying to someones who is replying to someone who posted in 2014 because some other guy decided to reply to a 2014 post and necro it.

[Prototelis]

That wasn't even a good riff man.

[General Solo]

From memory the charge up mechanic was introduced coz the gauss was the go to ballistic...

Its was cooler Long range AC15 that didnt explode and nietheir did the ammo, WIN WIN WIN
Waht other bollistics mang

Every man and his cat and dog used gauss , other ballistics were rarely fielded.

Think they tried to make other ballistics more viable by making gauss explode, but that wasnt enough

So they added the charge mechanic.

Sumting like that

(Edit: Poptarts were involved as well)

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 14 February 2019 - 05:34 AM.

[LordNothing]

i don't think i was here before there was gauss charge. i had signed up to check it out, but left after a couple games i went back to living legends.

ballistics have always been a little weak in this game. seems in previous games ballistics were always a little op and it seemed that it was a good idea not to repeat that mistake. though often when humans correct mistakes they tend to over compensate. hince the vomit meta.

[Curccu]

LordNothing, on 14 February 2019 - 05:02 AM, said:

i don't think i was here before there was gauss charge. i had signed up to check it out, but left after a couple games i went back to living legends.

ballistics have always been a little weak in this game. seems in previous games ballistics were always a little op and it seemed that it was a good idea not to repeat that mistake. though often when humans correct mistakes they tend to over compensate. hince the vomit meta.

Right now that may be true but in the past there has always been very strong ballistics mechs that are just very good.
Edit: and even now we got Sleipnir, MKII-B and Annihilator.

Edited by Curccu, 14 February 2019 - 05:19 AM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Curccu, on 14 February 2019 - 05:17 AM, said:

Right now that may be true but in the past there has always been very strong ballistics mechs that are just very good.
Edit: and even now we got Sleipnir, MKII-B and Annihilator.

Dakka are lowest heat weapons in the game. Stuff like AC 10 or 5 gauss don't generate much heat compared to other weapons. SO Dakka can spit damage longer.

Edited by SirSmokes, 14 February 2019 - 09:50 AM.

[thievingmagpi]

SirSmokes, on 14 February 2019 - 09:49 AM, said:

Dakka are lowest heat weapons in the game. Stuff like AC 10 or 5 gauss don't generate much heat compared to other weapons. SO Dakka can spit damage longer.

the recent heat buff obviated the role for many ballistic/dps builds. now a lot of high alpha laser builds can more or less function as dps as well.

I like laser vomit, so that's cool

But I also really liked the usefulness of cool-ish big dakka builds that don't really have the niche they did.

[The pessimistic optimist]

thievingmagpi, on 14 February 2019 - 09:55 AM, said:

the recent heat buff obviated the role for many ballistic/dps builds. now a lot of high alpha laser builds can more or less function as dps as well.

I like laser vomit, so that's cool

But I also really liked the usefulness of cool-ish big dakka builds that don't really have the niche they did.

Anything that can stack a bunch of AC 5 and your golden. AC5 are very low heat.

[thievingmagpi]

what in the world are you stacking ac5s on?

I'll take my heat-neutral laser voms over that.

[The pessimistic optimist]

thievingmagpi, on 14 February 2019 - 10:04 AM, said:

what in the world are you stacking ac5s on?

I'll take my heat-neutral laser voms over that.

There are a few thingsANH-2A

Edited by SirSmokes, 14 February 2019 - 10:18 AM.

[Der Geisterbaer]

Curccu, on 13 February 2019 - 02:32 PM, said:

I mean you must have some kind of knowledge of how macros work to have some kind of base for your claims of them being cheating?

There's no need for any kind of "knowledge" or better "understanding" how certain things work in order to allow people - that want to adhere to a (self-imposed) "code of honor" with regards to how certain things are "supposed to be done" - to consider anything not adhering to said "code" as a "cheat". They'll form that opionion regardless ... and such opinions are not limited to just computer games and the maco usage therein.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Der Geisterbaer, on 14 February 2019 - 10:16 AM, said:

There's no need for any kind of "knowledge" or better "understanding" how certain things work in order to allow people - that want to adhere to a (self-imposed) "code of honor" with regards to how certain things are "supposed to be done" - to consider anything not adhering to said "code" as a "cheat". They'll form that opionion regardless ... and such opinions are not limited to just computer games and the maco usage therein.

My thing is it takes the skill out and lets the computer do the work for you. Are you really playing when your handing some of that playing of to the computer?