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#81 Dazzer

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 11:33 AM

Ad a dedicated Medium pilot with mainly Cents and Hunchbacks I am loving this ! :D :D :D :D :wub: :wub: :wub:

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 11:52 AM

10/10 would pilot that beast. Kinda sad I sold the Centurion I got in the last give away, would have saved me a couple million c-bills.

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 11:54 AM

View PostBrody319, on 17 October 2014 - 11:52 AM, said:

10/10 would pilot that beast. Kinda sad I sold the Centurion I got in the last give away, would have saved me a couple million c-bills.


I am sad I missed out on that Centurion. I took a break for a while and literally came back the day AFTER it had ended. I was so disappointed.

Unfortunately though, as a Clanner and with the upcoming Clan releases and their massive price tags, I can't afford to by two more Centurions and two more Atlas chassis, plus outfit them any time soon so the gifts will be sitting around untouched for quite a while I am afraid.

Edited by Viktor Drake, 17 October 2014 - 11:57 AM.


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Posted 17 October 2014 - 12:03 PM

Just going to join the choir here, that -AH looks amazing!

... apart from the gun arm. What's with you lot and the small guns? Over-compensating or something? ;)

I mean, the K2 lost its mojo with the piddly PPC sticks instead of the BFG barrels, as did the AWS, the HBK looks ridiculous if you put anything but an AC/20 in its hunch (don't even know what you were thinking with the third gun there, halfway in the hunch and halfway out of it...), and now the Cent?

Not to mention the atrocity that is the Catapult tack-on VCR launchers. Does anyone at PGI think these things look good? Is anyone, anyone at all, proud of them?

Please, for the love of aesthetics, do something about these things as soon as you can.

Sorry, didn't mean to go on a rant, but it's hard when you make something really beautiful like the Cat or the Cent and then it gets spoiled by something that's really hard to ignore.

I'll be dusting off my Cents when the AH hits though, that's for sure. It's still the chassis I've the most seat time in, despite me owning no less than five Commandos (I only have four Cents - no YLW) :)

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 12:12 PM

View PostDennis de Koning, on 17 October 2014 - 10:02 AM, said:

Like many ‘Mechs before it, the entire Centurion line has been retrofit to show dynamic loadout modifications in the ‘Mechbay and on the battle field.
One thing most of you will notice right out of the gate is the scaling discrepancy of the ballistic weapons applicable to the Centurion.
Unfortunately I dropped the ball on this one; it flew under my radar and was noticed too late in the production process to mitigate prior to release.
I just want to assure all of you that we are going to take this as an opportunity to scrutinize the existing weapons scaling for these, as well as all ‘Mechs, across the board. And despite our full schedule, I will do my best to fix this as soon as possible.
I want to thank you for your patience in this matter as I know how much you all honestly care about the look and feel of MWO.

Dennis de Koning
AD MWO


you mean... you could... possibly... fix our catapults?

please?
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Edited by 627, 25 October 2014 - 10:09 AM.


#86 Duncan Jr Fischer

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 12:16 PM

I've read that AC size will be adjusted, that's really good, because these AC5s look more like a machineguns, and the same weapon on different mechs is of different size, that's not good at all. Scaling, scaling and scaling... Though I'm afraid this is a decease MWO will never heal. The scale is wrong in too many places.
So, will wait for weapon size fix, would be nice.

But why did you do that to missile launcher? Centurion always had vertical missile slots, why change the form? Especially to something so strange... Also the missile doors worked fine, why take away something that works? Again.

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:22 PM

Love it! That shield arm can only be described as "teh sex" and while a tweak was mentioned for the ballistics barrel sizes...



(I'm sorry!)

Also...
Spoiler


#88 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:26 PM

View PostDEMAX51, on 17 October 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

That shield arm looks pretty sweet. I'm glad I got that Champion Cent a while back as a reward for one of the challenges - I had never grinded them out, and that'll make getting this baby leveled up a bit easier :)

Just noticed though - no missile bay doors on the LT missile pod - are the Bay Doors going away for Cents in general?

Yes-

View PostJody Von Jedi, on 17 October 2014 - 08:19 AM, said:

Holy Moly! That looks awesome!!!!!!

Great work on this one!! Celtic knots and a real shield!

Keep up the great work.

Jody

Nordic Knots, actually. ;)

View PostRuss Bullock, on 17 October 2014 - 08:16 AM, said:

A quick post to show you a screen shot with the new loyalty centurion sporting a dual AC5 configuration. All centurions will enjoy this new mechlab treatment.

I also wanted to let you know about a known scaling issue before the mech goes live. The dual AC 5 and other builds look great as you can see - however when sporting an AC20 the scaling is MUCH to small, we are aware of it and plan to make some changes.

I do not have an ETA yet but in the meantime enjoy the visual customization and smaller hitbox on the AC20.

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Would actually say those ac5s are considerably too skinny, too, TBH.

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:27 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 17 October 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

Nordic Knots, actually. ;)


Keep me straight there buddy. ;)

I learned a long time ago (in RL, not just in MW:O), trust the Bishop, he knows his history.

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:30 PM

View PostRuss Bullock, on 17 October 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:


Looks tiny hence why I stated it so above - AC 20 looks like one of those AC5's but a little bigger around - not big enough we know



But you know were going to do something with that Left arm

Just curious how the LB-10X looks. Mostly because in lore, well, I'll let Lore talk instead: "The formidable appearance of the Centurion's Luxor autocannon tends to elevate the pilot's confidence and give him the feeling that he can blast his way through anything."

I've loved a ton of the "New PGI" approach of late, and have been a huge backer, in forums, in game, financially, etc. But scaling has been one consistent issue with the in game models. So while I don't want to hound you guys unfairly, I also don't think it benefits anyone to ignore the elephant in the room. (Things like the PPCs on Firestarters, etc, or even how tiny those 5 barrels appear look compared to the ones on a blackjack, for instance)

So just take this as a note from a concerned citizen.

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:39 PM

View PostDennis de Koning, on 17 October 2014 - 10:02 AM, said:

Like many ‘Mechs before it, the entire Centurion line has been retrofit to show dynamic loadout modifications in the ‘Mechbay and on the battle field.
One thing most of you will notice right out of the gate is the scaling discrepancy of the ballistic weapons applicable to the Centurion.
Unfortunately I dropped the ball on this one; it flew under my radar and was noticed too late in the production process to mitigate prior to release.
I just want to assure all of you that we are going to take this as an opportunity to scrutinize the existing weapons scaling for these, as well as all ‘Mechs, across the board. And despite our full schedule, I will do my best to fix this as soon as possible.
I want to thank you for your patience in this matter as I know how much you all honestly care about the look and feel of MWO.

Dennis de Koning
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Thanks for the post Dennis.

As you know I am a notorious scalenazi in the forums, but at elast hearing form you guys acknowledging it, is pretty cool. Will simply have to wait til you guys find the time and priority shift to fix them. Left arm and Crest are pretty sweet though!

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:39 PM

Love the CN9-AH and the new geometry, but...

I thought those were AC2's. Don't you guys have a standard barrel diameter for all medium, heavy and assault mechs? I've noticed light mechs have considerably smaller barrels, but since you guys have made medium mechs roughly the same size as heavy mechs, I don't see why they need to have smaller barrels. I'd like to see the same AC2, AC5, AC10 and AC20 barrel dimensions for as many mechs as possible.

Same with PPCs, really.

But anyway, nice mech. 9/10.

Edited by Alistair Winter, 17 October 2014 - 01:40 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:40 PM

View Post627, on 17 October 2014 - 12:12 PM, said:


you mean... you could... possibly... fix our catapults?

please?
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and well, scale pass ALL the mech weapons, someday?

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:40 PM

This thread makes me feel the Awesome is long overdue.

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:47 PM

The mech weapons should be scaled properly... because... logic.

Personally, mech scaling wasn't mentioned... just weapon scaling, so that's majorly disappointing.

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:51 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 17 October 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

The mech weapons should be scaled properly... because... logic.

Personally, mech scaling wasn't mentioned... just weapon scaling, so that's majorly disappointing.

trying to keep it focused on things that we can reasonably expect to see fixed. All the "Mech Scale" arguments involve a level of reworking just like many of the Sized HArdpoint, Fix GH etc arguments, which means, realistically, work involved for reward, does not make them likely.

So wasting time and beating a dead horse just seems to be...well... wasting time beating a dead horse, actually.

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 02:04 PM

View PostSorbic, on 17 October 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

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I'm not sure if it's on every mech but most have a little light on one of your window pillars. Yellow means closed and green means open. Of course you can't see it if you're zoomed in.

Thank you.... I guess I didn't get the memo :-)

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 02:32 PM

View PostDennis de Koning, on 17 October 2014 - 10:02 AM, said:

Like many ‘Mechs before it, the entire Centurion line has been retrofit to show dynamic loadout modifications in the ‘Mechbay and on the battle field.
One thing most of you will notice right out of the gate is the scaling discrepancy of the ballistic weapons applicable to the Centurion.
Unfortunately I dropped the ball on this one; it flew under my radar and was noticed too late in the production process to mitigate prior to release.
I just want to assure all of you that we are going to take this as an opportunity to scrutinize the existing weapons scaling for these, as well as all ‘Mechs, across the board. And despite our full schedule, I will do my best to fix this as soon as possible.
I want to thank you for your patience in this matter as I know how much you all honestly care about the look and feel of MWO.

Dennis de Koning
AD MWO

I hope this will include all weapons, not just ACs. The K2 and its tiny little PPCs could us you help. The early ones looked so good.

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 03:00 PM

i am not to pleased with the new geometry, especially in the missiles :(


and it seems that this would have been a better looking and and quicker re-model for the ballistic arm:
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and i must apologize, i dont remember this guys forum user name: its the teacher or agent cooper.

http://reversedisabled.blogspot.co.uk/

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 03:01 PM

Here's an idea: just use the old arm for AC/20. There, fixed. You're welcome.

I'm sad the CN9D got no movement or speed quirks since that is its defining feature much more than the crappy LBX but whatever, my fast D is getting upgrades to both shield arms and losing a 10% deceleration nerf. That's pretty good.

Mmmmmm that guy nailed it. I love those arms

Edited by Flying Blind, 17 October 2014 - 03:08 PM.






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