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[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Artgathan, on 17 October 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

I'm thinking that if my AC/20 is pumping out that much damage I'll hold my MLs in reserve either for last-ditch shots or for when I've used up all the AC/20 ammo.

Using the MLs would actually be a liability (if you're actually able to fire the AC/20 at the maximum rate) since it would effectively decrease your damage output over time.

I was thinking that too

[Bishop Steiner]

Artgathan, on 17 October 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

I'm thinking that if my AC/20 is pumping out that much damage I'll hold my MLs in reserve either for last-ditch shots or for when I've used up all the AC/20 ammo.

Using the MLs would actually be a liability (if you're actually able to fire the AC/20 at the maximum rate) since it would effectively decrease your damage output over time.

I'm thinking it means I bust out the Can Opener again, and drop 1 MLaser and some armor for 2 MGs and ammo.

HBK-4G Can Opener II
Slaser and 2MG on 1 trigger, Mlasers on another and ac20 on it's own.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 17 October 2014 - 04:22 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 October 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

I'm thinking it means I bust out the Can Opener again, and drop 1 MLaser and some armor for 2 MGs and ammo.

ya arm armor lol

[Artgathan]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 October 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

I'm thinking it means I bust out the Can Opener again, and drop 1 MLaser and some armor for 2 MGs and ammo.

Nah, the MGs will limit your ability to duck and weave - though with that much armor on the Hunch it may not be such a big problem.

I've got mixed feelings about what we'll see on the Centurion buffs. On one hand, the current CN9-D quirks mesh excellently with my current build. On the other hand, I'm not sure how I feel about the Centurion receiving SRM quirks...

Also, it seems the 4SP may be climbing back to it's position as King of the Medium Heap.

[Bishop Steiner]

Artgathan, on 17 October 2014 - 04:21 PM, said:

Nah, the MGs will limit your ability to duck and weave - though with that much armor on the Hunch it may not be such a big problem.

I've got mixed feelings about what we'll see on the Centurion buffs. On one hand, the current CN9-D quirks mesh excellently with my current build. On the other hand, I'm not sure how I feel about the Centurion receiving SRM quirks...

Also, it seems the 4SP may be climbing back to it's position as King of the Medium Heap.

I've run the CO since CB, the MG have never been a liability for me.

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 17 October 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:

ya arm armor lol

?

[Gorgo7]

AC20, 4 sec reload time.
5% Elite + 12% module + 25% trait = 42% reduction in reload time.

AC20, 2.32 sec reload time.

DROOL, Drool, drool...

[Bishop Steiner]

Gorgo7, on 17 October 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

AC20, 4 sec reload time.
5% Elite + 12% module + 25% trait = 42% reduction in reload time.

AC20, 2.32 sec reload time.

DROOL, Drool, drool...

still waiting to confirm that. But 2.32 or 2.55..either way... not gonna complain.

Especially since I feel the HBK-4G(F) is still one of Alex's absolute best re-designs (right up there with the pre ruined barrel K2)

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 October 2014 - 04:25 PM, said:

I've run the CO since CB, the MG have never been a liability for me.


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Taking out arm armor (at least the one that doesnt have the laser in it)

[Bishop Steiner]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 17 October 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

Taking out arm armor (at least the one that doesnt have the laser in it)

both arms have lasers

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 October 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

both arms have lasers

You were taking one off for 2 mg and ammo remember? The "can opener"

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 17 October 2014 - 04:41 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 17 October 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

You were taking one off for 2 mg and ammo remember? The "can opener"

HBK-4G

might help if you actually reread the link. all the info is right there.

*edited for correct link

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 17 October 2014 - 04:44 PM.

[Gorgo7]

Just confirmed it on my Awesome 9M with PPC a lvl 5 module and elite cool down skill. = 17% =18 salvos in 60 sec (59.76) on the testing range.

However if the *NEW* reload time is 25% less...ie 3 sec THEN you apply the module + elite skill the diminishing returns becomes an exception instead of a rule for the module. How do you stack the mods? Where does the calculation come in?

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 October 2014 - 04:42 PM, said:

HBK-4G

might help if you actually reread the link. all the info is right there.

*edited for correct link

my bad, there wasnt a link there when I read it the first time

[Bishop Steiner]

Gorgo7, on 17 October 2014 - 04:43 PM, said:

Just confirmed it on my Awesome 9M with PPC a lvl 5 module and elite cool down skill. = 17% =18 salvos in 60 sec (59.76) on the testing range.

However if the *NEW* reload time is 25% less...ie 3 sec THEN you apply the module + elite skill the diminishing returns becomes an exception instead of a rule for the module. How do you stack the mods? Where does the calculation come in?

nope, lol-.

[Gorgo7]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 October 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

nope, lol-.

Elaborate please.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gorgo7, on 17 October 2014 - 08:05 PM, said:

Elaborate please.

as in nope, don't have a confirmed answer for you in regards your question. No clue (well might think I have a clue, but can't really prove atm) about how the Modules stack for a certainty.

[Gorgo7]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 October 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

as in nope, don't have a confirmed answer for you in regards your question. No clue (well might think I have a clue, but can't really prove atm) about how the Modules stack for a certainty.

Thanks for the speedy reply, have a great weekend!

Edited by Gorgo7, 17 October 2014 - 08:10 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gorgo7, on 17 October 2014 - 08:10 PM, said:

Thanks for the speedy reply, have a great weekend!

same. If I get clarification, I will post.