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#1 WolfDragon Ghost

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 10:00 PM

Today I lost my faith in PGI, let me explain:

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This is not a CN9 anymore, its a SN9 now.

CN9 Was before 21/10/2014 patch
SN9 after the 21/10/2014 patch

My main concern is that the CENTURION design is not an improvement, but a big step back, is just a poorly implemented job.

What's the difference between a "good product", an copy of the same product, and a poorly implemented copy of the same product?


The "good product" is a known trademark, and symbolizes the quality of the same product, which includes the manufacturing, the selling process, and also the post-selling process. (like the known brands SONY, NINTENDO, etc).

The "Copy of the same product" looks like the original to gain a benefit of the known product it is imitating, without the original quality and materials used on the first one, but even copying the known characteristics of the same original product (logos, packaging, colours, designs,etc).

A "poorly implemented Copy" is a job which lacks of quality, concern for the product and the "know-how". This means that the ones in charge or do this, did not have any understanding of the product at all (they didnt perform any thinking effort, knowledge of the original, concept involving the copy and so on) to even try to imitate the original product or its copy.

They made stupid mistakes when doing so (like the "trademarks": SOMY, Lecoste, NEKI, etc).

This is what the "Senturion" now looks like in our mechlab, a poorly implemented copy of what it was before.

Lets start with the details of what i am trying to say:

a) Left Torso:
You didnt even have the decency of re design it. You just took the one that existed previously, patched the missile doors, and overwrite a missile design that does not even fit the previous one that you were overwritting! I mean, i can understand if some of the geometry (as you call it) is not perfect, but come on, if you put more than one SRM/LRM launcher, the second one aims to the deep blue sky, over the shoulder. I mean copy paste is fine, but at least took the next 30 minutes to notice that something was awfully bad when trying different configurations. You can see the person re designing this only wanted to deliver something, never wondering if it was good or bad. I dare to say that this is NOT the same person who designed the mech at the beginning of the game. If he removed the missile doors was to save time or work, because it already existed previously and, if he was about to copy the designs, at least he should have ensured that those doors were working (respecting the work of the original/previous designer).

All the details involved on the game are the small thing we still had, we loved from the beginning, and those are the ones that captivated us from that time until now, and still surprise us.

b)Right Arm and balistics.

You got to be kidding me on this one! Left arm is BIGGER than the right one and only has a small shield on it! This is NOT AESTHETICALLY at all!

He was surely aiming for something bigger but missed the shot by a mile!

Since he was not able to duplicate the previous job quality, he tried to simplify that, so he squared the entire bottom part of the arm and just changed the protruding tube out of that box to represent the other weapons (Balistics or Lazors).
At least he could even use the same patterns/desings the HIGHLANDER or the VICTOR holds so he can implement it on its own design on the Senturion.

You just cannot throw something to the garbage because you cannot make it better.

Edited by WolfDragon Ghost, 25 October 2014 - 11:08 AM.


#2 MarineTech

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 02:02 AM

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#3 IraqiWalker

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:22 AM

So you put a different loadout, and are angry that the mech looks different, when it has DIFFERENT WEAPONS?

Are you serious?

#4 Lil Cthulhu

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:33 AM

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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#5 IraqiWalker

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:47 AM

View PostLil Cthulhu, on 22 October 2014 - 07:33 AM, said:

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


Nice paraphrase, but do remember, that aside from the awkward point, OP is not an English native speaker. As such, leniency should be given.

We got the gist of it, but it's still a weird idea.

#6 Lil Cthulhu

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:55 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 22 October 2014 - 07:47 AM, said:


Nice paraphrase, but do remember, that aside from the awkward point, OP is not an English native speaker. As such, leniency should be given.

We got the gist of it, but it's still a weird idea.

His grasp of the English language was not the focus of the criticism, his point was.

#7 Darth Futuza

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 12:03 PM

WTF? You must be trolling, right?

#8 WolfDragon Ghost

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 06:53 PM

well my english is so bad.... and google traslator to........ so a friend of me will help me tomorrow to explain my point so please chek this post 24/10 afternoom

#9 IraqiWalker

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 08:02 PM

View PostWolfDragon Ghost, on 23 October 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

well my english is so bad.... and google traslator to........ so a friend of me will help me tomorrow to explain my point so please chek this post 24/10 afternoom


I think we understood what you were saying. That the model for the Centurion got changed, and you dislike it. However, most of us are saying that it's:

1- ridiculous
2- the model didn't really change that much (only the guns got changed actually. The shoulder is just like the concept art, but the arm is rotated down for the art)

#10 Alaskan Nobody

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 08:07 PM

View PostWolfDragon Ghost, on 23 October 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:


View PostIraqiWalker, on 23 October 2014 - 08:02 PM, said:


This is K-Town now.

I am not sure rational discussions are allowed. :unsure:

#11 IraqiWalker

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 09:02 PM

View PostShar Wolf, on 23 October 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

This is K-Town now.

I am not sure rational discussions are allowed. :unsure:

HOLY WHAT THE WHAT NOW!?

When did we get here?

#12 WolfDragon Ghost

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 11:37 PM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 23 October 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

HOLY WHAT THE WHAT NOW!?

When did we get here?


yaaam,,,, is cus i was so mad that i dint say this in a good way, u know what i mean?

#13 Mike Forst

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 10:05 AM

I liked the old Centurion but also like the new Centurion.

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 11:14 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 23 October 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

HOLY WHAT THE WHAT NOW!?

When did we get here?

Before Marine Tech posted I think
That would be one of his "welcome to Ktown" posts

View PostWolfDragon Ghost, on 23 October 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:


yaaam,,,, is cus i was so mad that i dint say this in a good way, u know what i mean?

It did come across as a little whiny
Having said that, I am not really happy with the new look either
(Though I expect it to grow on me - I'm kinda weird like that)

#15 Mike Forst

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 11:54 AM

I think more people will be happier with it when the weapon scaling is fixed.

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 08:56 PM

View PostMike Forst, on 24 October 2014 - 11:54 AM, said:

I think more people will be happier with it when the weapon scaling is fixed.


My one gripe with the CN9-AH is the size of the AC 20. It needs to be adjusted a bit. Other than that, I am loving the hell out of it.

#17 Mike Forst

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 10:43 PM

Dennis posted somewhere that the weapon scaling on the Centurion is wrong and that it will be fixed in the near future.

#18 WolfDragon Ghost

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 11:14 AM

Well if they really going do fix it i need probs

please read this post again, this is a better way to expres my opinios

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 08:49 AM

I played again due to the chassis challenge shenanigans... saw my ylw's gun arm and was severely underwhelmed. If that gun doesnt represent the 1/4+ of total mech mass that it actually has I will be severely disappointed.

Please fix, I shall return from cryostasis when clrms get toned down

#20 WolfDragon Ghost

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:15 PM

is ok if i erase this post and star a new one to get more atention?



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