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[Xetelian]

Just wanted to say thank you while I'm still awake (and sober).

Yes I really got ~35,000 for 504 damage 2 assist loss.

Hoping this will bring us back to normal.

[Pendraco]

I really do like the new reward system, but like you I have experianced some brutal losses with very little payout...refer to the screenshot below...And that's with premium time!




However, by changing my pugging play style a bit, I found I could actually make some decent C-Bills...even on a loss...but they make you work for it!




I think overall my earnings are down - An average game for me pre patch would net 200 - 280k with premium and a hero.....still having trouble obtaining these 300 - 400k matches I am hearing about.

Edited by Pendraco, 22 October 2014 - 10:33 PM.

[Mothykins]

I think this patch made the Locust 1V even LESS useful, as I can't even seem to grind out 180k with it, which was my norm.

Can't consistently get hit and run bonus, not enough damage on an alpha. Sticking with the pack doesn't seem to work as everyone splits up like morons. Take a tag, and Lose the main gun (Lose ALL hit and Run potential) ...

Can we stop screwing the Bug over please? Pretty please?

[Shadow Magnet]

I also hope that the fix will bring back the level of earnings to before the patch.

It's really frustrating to have an average of 80-100k for wins and 20-30k for losses, no matter if I play light, medium, heavy or assault, harrasser, sniper, brawler, dakka boat, lrm boat - nothing works for me anymore. Extremely frustrating and really kills the fun for me. Wanted to support PGI with buying the resistance pack, not for now until they get this rebalanced.

How on earth I am supposed to pay the remaining missing 15+ cooldown and range modules I would like to get and level up the new Cent, Atlas and Shadow Hawk I bought? Average of 100 XP per match now... I completely stopped using consumables (I was totally cool shot addicted as I use laser heavy builds) which even further kills my effectivity in matches.

If PGI thinks that an average of less than 100k C-Bills per match is their intended goal... Oh well...

[Xtrekker]

My lowest payout so far has been 130k c-bills on a loss (no premium/hero/champion/etc). With premium my lowest has been 150k. How in the hell has anyone been getting these awful 30k rewards? I'm pretty much playing the same as usual, stick together when we can, take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves.

Playing 100% solo queue, is that it?

[Troutmonkey]

Xtrekker, on 22 October 2014 - 11:43 PM, said:

My lowest payout so far has been 130k c-bills on a loss (no premium/hero/champion/etc). With premium my lowest has been 150k. How in the hell has anyone been getting these awful 30k rewards? I'm pretty much playing the same as usual, stick together when we can, take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves.

Playing 100% solo queue, is that it?

You must be an exceptional individual.

I have not hit 90k on a loss under the new system with most losses being around 50k compared to my old average of about 80-100k. I have been averaging 130'00k on a "good" win which is slightly less than normal. Yesterday I had an exceptional game where I scored over 1000 damage and had 3 kills and numerous assist, but only eeked out 180k where's normally I'd expect 200k+.

I solo 100% of the time in a mix of all weight classes. No premium time and only I pilot my Misery occasionally. Hopefully the hot fix tomorrow will sort all this out.

[Shadow Magnet]

Xtrekker, on 22 October 2014 - 11:43 PM, said:

My lowest payout so far has been 130k c-bills on a loss (no premium/hero/champion/etc). With premium my lowest has been 150k. How in the hell has anyone been getting these awful 30k rewards? I'm pretty much playing the same as usual, stick together when we can, take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves.

Playing 100% solo queue, is that it?

Actually, since patch I was not able to get above 150k at all, only like 1 or 2 matches being around 150k.
Solo queue, no premium time, sometimes hero mech, all classes, playstyle according to class and most of the time, sticking to the team, trying to guard whales, help out other team mates under attack, being cooperative and watching the team movements.

[Xtrekker]

Troutmonkey, on 23 October 2014 - 12:45 AM, said:

You must be an exceptional individual.

I have not hit 90k on a loss under the new system with most losses being around 50k compared to my old average of about 80-100k. I have been averaging 130'00k on a "good" win which is slightly less than normal. Yesterday I had an exceptional game where I scored over 1000 damage and had 3 kills and numerous assist, but only eeked out 180k where's normally I'd expect 200k+.

I solo 100% of the time in a mix of all weight classes. No premium time and only I pilot my Misery occasionally. Hopefully the hot fix tomorrow will sort all this out.

No, was just confused as to what was happening and was not intended as an insult. I run this account (with bonuses and premium), plus a freebie Clanner account (no bonuses, no premium), and that was my experience. I noted on the other account, after posting the above, that my earnings tanked. Not sure why my first matches were good. I finally ended up with average wins between 80k and 120k and losses between 30k and 80k. It was pretty crappy. After the patch, I added a TAG. All I did was start marking all my targets with TAG while firing lasers, same MO as usual with the exception of one less CML, and all of a sudden my cash more than doubled (now typically 180k to 220k, no bonuses), even in matches with no LRMs. With no change in play style, I think that shows this to be pretty broken. There is no reason a 1 ton piece of equipment should double your earnings. I'm all solo queue too.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Payouts look worse then what we had.

I made 90K dealing 350 dmg and 1 kill.....

70K if I dealt 200 dmg and 0 kills, but a few assists.....

Yet ive seen 2 kills, 450+ dmg, 6 assists, a win and barely 100K....lolwut?

[Elizander]

Xtrekker, on 22 October 2014 - 11:43 PM, said:

My lowest payout so far has been 130k c-bills on a loss (no premium/hero/champion/etc). With premium my lowest has been 150k. How in the hell has anyone been getting these awful 30k rewards? I'm pretty much playing the same as usual, stick together when we can, take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves.

Playing 100% solo queue, is that it?

Solo queue. That queue where you engage then the other 11 mechs run behind cover without even shooting at the enemy.

[kf envy]

I do find it funny that my locust with nothing but an TAG is able to get more Cbill even with an loss then what im able to get with my hunchback 4sp. looks like im just going to be farming Cbills with an locust tagging mechs in the death ball's don't even need to use up my extra tons for weapons or ammo.

[55555]

here's a trick. equip a TAG on EVERY SINGLE LOADOUT. your own tag gives you xp and extra credits, and when they die you get a TAG kill. my DWF with 5 lb5's has a TAG now, its nice. like 180 and even 210k on a round!

[CheeseyPeas]

I seem to be getting about the same cbills doing what I normally do, xp seems a little higher though, even on losses.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

so glad for the fix.

I run in Solo Que alot, before the rewards change, I was making on average 100k on a win, 50+on a loss.

Drop that to about half after the change.

Now it's back up to 100-200k a match in solo que. Thank god.

[DeathWaffle]

Loving the extra cbills!

[El Bandito]

Pendraco, on 22 October 2014 - 10:31 PM, said:

I really do like the new reward system, but like you I have experianced some brutal losses with very little payout...refer to the screenshot below...And that's with premium time!




However, by changing my pugging play style a bit, I found I could actually make some decent C-Bills...even on a loss...but they make you work for it!




I think overall my earnings are down - An average game for me pre patch would net 200 - 280k with premium and a hero.....still having trouble obtaining these 300 - 400k matches I am hearing about.

That's not a decent loss, this is a decent loss.

[Macksheen]

Heh - my best lost is very similar - though you clearly got more XP out of it and non-direct-damage/kill-related cash too.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Rewards suck now. Averaging 50-60k in a loss when I had to do especially bad to go under an 100k in a loss before the patch. Most of my wins now are earning at least 30-50k less than before, however I did have one outlier where I earned 353k though I am not sure how I deserved it.

Game was:

2 Kills
4 Assists
7 Component Destruction
456 damage
2 spotting Assists

Which seems pretty average to me.

However....

Win = 25,000
Spotting Assist = 4,000
Component Destruction = 16,100
Savior Kills = 9,000
Defensive Kills = 4,500
Killing Blow = 8,000
Kill Assist = 14,000
Conquest bonus = 37,500
Salvage bonus = 15,299
Damage done = 9,563
Kill Most Dmg Done = 10,000
Solo Kill = 10,000
Flanking = 6,000
NARC Kill = 18,000
Hit & Run = 6,000
Lance in formation = 840
Protection Proximity = 360

Subtotal = 192,162
Mech Bonus = 58,849
Premium Bonus = 98,081
Total = 353,092

Again game didn't feel like anything special and didn't do anything different but due to random events beyond my control, I scored big where the reward is concerned.

Honestly this doesn't feel right.

[Xetelian]

Might need to raise assits back to 6000 from 3,500
Also might need to raise the damage rewards

Edited by Xetelian, 25 October 2014 - 01:54 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

LordKnightFandragon, on 24 October 2014 - 05:52 PM, said:

Payouts look worse then what we had.

I made 90K dealing 350 dmg and 1 kill.....

70K if I dealt 200 dmg and 0 kills, but a few assists.....

Yet ive seen 2 kills, 450+ dmg, 6 assists, a win and barely 100K....lolwut?

If you are not with your team you don't get the big money. Stay close to even ONE team mate and watch your income double with those results.

Viktor Drake, on 24 October 2014 - 10:39 PM, said:

Rewards suck now. Averaging 50-60k in a loss when I had to do especially bad to go under an 100k in a loss before the patch. Most of my wins now are earning at least 30-50k less than before, however I did have one outlier where I earned 353k though I am not sure how I deserved it.

Game was:

2 Kills
4 Assists
7 Component Destruction
456 damage
2 spotting Assists

Which seems pretty average to me.

However....

Win = 25,000
Spotting Assist = 4,000
Component Destruction = 16,100
Savior Kills = 9,000
Defensive Kills = 4,500
Killing Blow = 8,000
Kill Assist = 14,000
Conquest bonus = 37,500
Salvage bonus = 15,299
Damage done = 9,563
Kill Most Dmg Done = 10,000
Solo Kill = 10,000
Flanking = 6,000
NARC Kill = 18,000
Hit & Run = 6,000
Lance in formation = 840
Protection Proximity = 360

Subtotal = 192,162
Mech Bonus = 58,849
Premium Bonus = 98,081
Total = 353,092

Again game didn't feel like anything special and didn't do anything different but due to random events beyond my control, I scored big where the reward is concerned.

Honestly this doesn't feel right.

You cannot control staying with your team? or Fire at your enemy from a flank? That doesn't even make sense to me.