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#1 Hades Trooper

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:07 AM

So i was looking over the storm crow today and i noticed something very weird about this mech.

Unlike the other clan mechs it doesn't have any extra heatsinks in the engine. All the rest that are over 250 rating have extra engine heatsinks.

Though the problem that i'm bringing up is the Storm Crow has an XL330. this should allow it to have 3 extra sinks added if the user likes in the engine.

Dire Whale 300 XL 2 extra engine heat sinks
Warhawk 340 XL 3 extra
Summoner 350 XL 4 extra
TimberWolf 375 XL 5 extra
Mad Dog 300 XL 2 extra
Storm Crow 330 XL 0 extra but NO option to add up to 3 as it should as per the engine rules.

We need a fix, thats 12 crit slots that aren't able to be used for heatsinks and being a mainly laser build i would think most people add extra heatsinks and thus it's being ripped off for space.

Russ we need a fix m8 ASAP!

#2 TercieI

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:09 AM

It has the capacity they're just not there.

Clearly this is why it's useless.

#3 Aleski

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:11 AM

View PostTerciel1976, on 21 October 2014 - 04:09 AM, said:

It has the capacity they're just not there.

Clearly this is why it's useless.


The stormcrow is useless?

I pilot a lot of medium, the stormcrow is by far the better of the medium class. Each time i use it i made more than 600 damages!!!

It's more a little negative quirk for this overpowered mech!

#4 BOWMANGR

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:15 AM

This thread needs some TimberWolf pilots asking for some buffs too.

#5 Bluttrunken

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:22 AM

View PostAleski, on 21 October 2014 - 04:11 AM, said:


The stormcrow is useless?

I pilot a lot of medium, the stormcrow is by far the better of the medium class. Each time i use it i made more than 600 damages!!!

It's more a little negative quirk for this overpowered mech!


I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm.

#6 Mercules

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:24 AM

View PostHades Trooper, on 21 October 2014 - 04:07 AM, said:

Storm Crow 330 XL 0 extra but NO option to add up to 3 as it should as per the engine rules.


Certain equipment is fixed on specific chassis for clan mechs, engine is one of them. The other mechs can't remove their engine heat sinks and the Stromcrow can't add any. Nothing is broken.

#7 Hades Trooper

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:30 AM

View PostMercules, on 21 October 2014 - 04:24 AM, said:


Certain equipment is fixed on specific chassis for clan mechs, engine is one of them. The other mechs can't remove their engine heat sinks and the Stromcrow can't add any. Nothing is broken.


No It could not add any if it was full.

engines rules state, every 25 rating over 250 you can add 1. As per EVERY other clan engine, this engine isn't something special, it should have the option to add heatsinks if you like, there is something broken if you can't understand then i can't help you

#8 Mercules

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:33 AM

View PostHades Trooper, on 21 October 2014 - 04:30 AM, said:


No It could not add any if it was full.

engines rules state, every 25 rating over 250 you can add 1. As per EVERY other clan engine, this engine isn't something special, it should have the option to add heatsinks if you like, there is something broken if you can't understand then i can't help you


Yes, you "could" if anyone let you. PGI does not let you alter the engine. That includes the heatsinks in the engine. You can not add or remove them. End of story. That is the price you pay for playing a clan mech.

WORKING AS INTENDED.

#9 Mcgral18

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:34 AM

One of the Omni downsides; engine, and all the unused internal heatsink slots, are locked.

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:38 AM

Working as intended...

...as intended to mutilate all enemies standing before it. The 'Crow don't need no engine heatsinks to cause mayhem!

#11 Hades Trooper

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:41 AM

Why should EVERY other Engine operate under 1 set of rules the the 330XL a different, i'm not changing the engine, i'm wanting to use the crit that should be free,

By doing so it's breakign the engine rules by not being bale to to add engine heat sinks like any other 330 XL does.

Not being bale to move heatsinks i can handle, also having an extra handicapp is a rip off

#12 Mercules

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:47 AM

View PostHades Trooper, on 21 October 2014 - 04:41 AM, said:

Why should EVERY other Engine operate under 1 set of rules the the 330XL a different, i'm not changing the engine, i'm wanting to use the crit that should be free,

By doing so it's breakign the engine rules by not being bale to to add engine heat sinks like any other 330 XL does.

Not being bale to move heatsinks i can handle, also having an extra handicapp is a rip off


All Clan Engines are locked. As stated you can not REMOVE DHS from the clan engines either. This is the balance for being Clan and having access to lighter weapons with longer reach, you can not change certain things.

#13 Hades Trooper

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:51 AM

no, Engine sized isn't being change, i want to be able to make use of the engine space for heat sinks it should have.

To me this is bugged,

#14 Mercules

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:00 AM

View PostHades Trooper, on 21 October 2014 - 04:51 AM, said:

no, Engine sized isn't being change, i want to be able to make use of the engine space for heat sinks it should have.

To me this is bugged,


Did I say anything about engine size? I don't believe I did. I said the engine is locked. That means everything that goes into the engine is locked. No DHS come out, none go in. We have given you the reason accept it and move on.

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:02 AM

View PostHades Trooper, on 21 October 2014 - 04:51 AM, said:

no, Engine sized isn't being change, i want to be able to make use of the engine space for heat sinks it should have.

To me this is bugged,


It isn't bugged; It's a clan mech 'feature'.

#16 Hades Trooper

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:14 AM

View PostMercules, on 21 October 2014 - 05:00 AM, said:


Did I say anything about engine size? I don't believe I did. I said the engine is locked. That means everything that goes into the engine is locked. No DHS come out, none go in. We have given you the reason accept it and move on.


I don't have to accept it, i can accept engine size being locked i can handle heatsinks being fixed, but i can't handle the fact this engine has room for 3 more heatsinks and like the B config, which adds 3 extra heatsinks on top of the ones the the ones the prime has, for 25 combinded.

Thus the Config B uses the engine space for the extra heat sinks. So why can't the others?

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:17 AM

They realized if they did this then it would be too good.

What mediums for IS have 325 XL engines?

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:19 AM

You can't just open a fusion nuclear reactor and put or remove stuff from it easily. The internal heatsinks being as changeable as the reactor itself is realistic.

Another issue is why we can change so easily stuff on IS mechs, surely it would be more realistic if engine and structure was fixed or within a very small range, and all customizations of IS mechs would cost money over the regular cost of equipment to reflect the big task it is to respec a CMD 2D to carry a CPP rather than med laser on it right arm. That said that would be unfun.

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:22 AM

Have you EVER used a Stormcrow? It doesn't need any buffs. It's the best Medium 'mech in the game and I would stack it up against a Timberwolf anyday - especially my LRM boat Stormcrows.

The lack of customization is working as designed. Admittedly, the IS 'mechs should have a lack of customization and the Clan 'mechs should be able to change things freely - but then noone would ever play IS 'mechs.

You make tradeoffs for being able to play Clan 'mechs in MWO - you've found one of them.

View PostHades Trooper, on 21 October 2014 - 04:41 AM, said:

Why should EVERY other Engine operate under 1 set of rules the the 330XL a different, i'm not changing the engine, i'm wanting to use the crit that should be free,

By doing so it's breakign the engine rules by not being bale to to add engine heat sinks like any other 330 XL does.

Not being bale to move heatsinks i can handle, also having an extra handicapp is a rip off


#20 Mercules

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:23 AM

View PostHades Trooper, on 21 October 2014 - 05:14 AM, said:


I don't have to accept it, i can accept engine size being locked i can handle heatsinks being fixed, but i can't handle the fact this engine has room for 3 more heatsinks and like the B config, which adds 3 extra heatsinks on top of the ones the the ones the prime has, for 25 combinded.

Thus the Config B uses the engine space for the extra heat sinks. So why can't the others?


Because PGI said so. Just wait till your father gets home.





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