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[Toast001]

There are some people with a natural talent for hitting someone regardless of there speed or there target, i am not one of them. Lets say i am going to fire a ppc, i know if i miss there is a huge heat penalty plus the time to recharge, so i save my shots till i am pretty sure it hits. Now doing so i may not be getting the kills or damage i could potentially get. Now you may say why even fire a ppc, it sucks. Well even if its a ballistic there is a penalty of using ammo and recharge time.

So the question is do you shoot at anything that moves, giving it your best estimates or save you shots for when you think you will be successful?

[MadPanda]

You shoot at anything you got a line at.

[KraftySOT]

Shoot first, shoot often.

[NUK3]

Toast001, on 26 October 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

So the question is do you shoot at anything that moves, giving it your best estimates or save you shots for when you think you will be successful?

A mix of both "systems". If I'm sure my target will still be there the next second, if it's not aiming at me, and if it's far away, I take some more time to line up the shot. Example: An Atlas at 700 meters with its valuable RT and LA. If the condition stated above is not given, I get rid of my ammo as fast as possible. Only exception: The Gauss Rifle. With its 0.5 seconds (?) charge time I've got plenty of time to aim. And luckily the range of an AC/20 is very limited. Otherwise I'd take my time to aim, given it's small ammo-per-ton ratio.

[LT. HARDCASE]

I just shoot at everything. Even with a close miss, you're suppressing the enemy, and affecting them psychologically.

[Kanatta Jing]

I usually just point in the general direction of the person I want to shoot and fire, but sometimes I remember to focus and actually aim.

[Brody319]

I never aim for lights at long distances with anything but Lasers.
Lasers are a beam so the light can run across it, but you dont deal large amounts of damage.
Mediums are just easy to track for me, they don't go very fast, Assaults are walking barns, if you miss you need to clean your mouse or get new glasses, Heavies are in between mediums and assaults for their ease to hit.

Really if you want to aim better you gotta branch out into other FPS games. Counter-Strike is good for snap shots. Team Fortress is good for adapting to projectile speed, long distance shots, and tracking a target. Good ping and a mouse helps a lot. I have a gaming mouse so I have my 3-4 bound to the mouse as well so I don't even need to use my 3,4,5 keys to fire weapons.

[Macksheen]

Well, when I started I was way worse than I am now. I'm not super awesome now, but I certainly feel a bit more comfortable and "better".

There were several phases and small things that needed to happen
- I got to know the maps
- I got used to speed and moving / shooting at the same time
- I got a better mouse
- I turned mouse sensitivity in-game WAY down
- I built mechs with better heat control for long range fighting so I *could* shoot more often and get used to it

I run hot as hell most times, but I really do try to make sure I've got a low-heat option. Sometimes, you need to toss ammo downrange, and you don't want to have to worry about overheating. One answer is simply that - build so you overheat less, then fire fire fire fire

[Flapdrol]

I'd start by lowering mouse sensitivity.

[Molossian Dog]

How do people aim? Mostly by instinct, as there is no time for anything else. And instinct can´t be "trained" in the literal sense. It can be sharpened, maybe. But that´s it.

What needs training is deciding which shots you take and which not. And with which weapons. Getting to know weapon behaviour and target behaviour is an ongoing process. The only thing you can really try to focus on is deciding which kind of weapons go to which hardpoint. And then use them over and over again.

Take the Thunderbolt, for example. For myself I just can´t make PPCs in the right arm work. The angle is just wrong for me. Not so in my Shad´s right arm. As a consequence I pack something else in the TDR´s right arm.

Edited by Molossian Dog, 26 October 2014 - 03:35 PM.

[Ultimax]

Toast001, on 26 October 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

There are some people with a natural talent for hitting someone regardless of there speed or there target, i am not one of them. Lets say i am going to fire a ppc, i know if i miss there is a huge heat penalty plus the time to recharge, so i save my shots till i am pretty sure it hits. Now doing so i may not be getting the kills or damage i could potentially get. Now you may say why even fire a ppc, it sucks. Well even if its a ballistic there is a penalty of using ammo and recharge time.

So the question is do you shoot at anything that moves, giving it your best estimates or save you shots for when you think you will be successful?

I'm more liberal with energy weapons at range, because it costs me nothing.
I'm more cautious with energy weapons close up because I run the risk of overheating.

I'm more liberal with ballistics when I have a clear, solid firing line.
I'm more cautious with ballistics when I'm firing on fast moving targets or targets at extreme range due to ammo waste.

I will take risky snapshots if something pops into my view, I might get lucky and get a hit at best or at worst make that target consider getting it's head down.

I will often take sniper shots anticipating where I believe an enemy is going to be having just seen them, I try to guess their movements based on weapon cooldowns (easy at range, once it's a brawl it's really difficult for me to stay this collected).

Edited by Ultimatum X, 26 October 2014 - 03:30 PM.

[ImperialKnight]

Toast001, on 26 October 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

There are some people with a natural talent for hitting someone regardless of there speed or there target, i am not one of them. Lets say i am going to fire a ppc, i know if i miss there is a huge heat penalty plus the time to recharge, so i save my shots till i am pretty sure it hits. Now doing so i may not be getting the kills or damage i could potentially get. Now you may say why even fire a ppc, it sucks. Well even if its a ballistic there is a penalty of using ammo and recharge time.

So the question is do you shoot at anything that moves, giving it your best estimates or save you shots for when you think you will be successful?

Just shoot. If you miss, the first shot becomes a ranging shot

Once you play long enough, you have a rough idea of range, enemy speed and projectile speed. If your first shot misses, combat zero by changing the amount of lead in your shot and you should hit the next time

[Josef Nader]

Wait for a clear shot. Don't waste your heat scale. Instead, focus on being defensive until you have a good opening to fire your weapons.

[Bartholomew bartholomew]

Shoot every chance you get. Aim for specific parts when you can otherwise CT him. Not shooting mean he will line up on you without anything to twitch him off.

[LordKnightFandragon]

I shoot anything that presents itself. I do hesitate sometimes due to the horrid geometry of terrain and crap in this game, but I generally send shots towards anything I see.

And can someone riddle me this? Why does FEAR have such beautiful geometry, a game thats like what? almost 10 years old, yet a 2012+ game like PLanetside 2, MWO cant even come close to getting it right? Cuz last night, I was peeking around a container in FEAR with a grenade cannon launcher thing and was at first hesitant to fire, let the geometry be horrid and I blow myself up...but then, with just a snippet of the enemy showing and most of the container in my screen, but my cross hair clearing the container, and the gun actually on the same side of the screen as the container, I fired....and fired and fired and never once hit the box.......It was right then I realized...this game is spot on with geometry and its old as crap, why cant MWO get it right? Whats more is FEAR doesnt even ADS like most modern shooters, it just zooms in the screen a little...

I mean, on Canyon, peeking around a slanted mountain, my crosshair clears it, my right arm clearly clears it and yet I fire and blam, kazaaaaap...I drill air 10 feet away from the mountain....

Edited by LordKnightFandragon, 26 October 2014 - 03:37 PM.

[KharnZor]

Practice. lots and lots of practice.

[xengk]

Practice in the testing ground.

Choose a distance and run at high speed around a target and practice hitting it with PPC. Work your way from the Atlas down to the Jenner.

[Glythe]

Have you done much shooting off the computer? It does help.

Hell a number of sports can help you with targets and distance..... Tennis, Baseball, Archery, Football, Soccer to name a few.



If you do it long enough your brain learns to do an internal count for you and you get a feel for where to throw the shot. If you haven't played many video games you can also learn when is the best time to shoot such as during a direction change in your target's projected course over the next 5-10 seconds.

[Cyborne Elemental]

Just start using the components of your crosshairs and horizon as a measurement.

Just like a sniper adjusts his aim in Mills, figure out at what ranges your shots will land by remembering the distance from your crosshair's center at certain ranges.

You'll have to use a visual reference of some type.

Just takes experience and time, but once you have it down, its second nature and gets easier.

Edited by Mister D, 26 October 2014 - 05:30 PM.

[Xtrekker]

• Point
  
• Click
  
• Rage about bad hitreg

At least that's how I do it.