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#1 Jabilo

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 02:18 PM

Okay, lets get it out in the open, clear and simple.

I request a poll in a high traffic area:

Keep Rewards 2.0

or

Reinstate old rewards.

#2 Jacob Side

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 02:41 PM

New rewards are just fine. Learn to play within the new rules

#3 Redshift2k5

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 03:09 PM

I don't think they are willing to roll it back, the new rewards are "much more interesting" to paraphrase Russ. I'm pretty sure this is in the 'never changing back, get used to it' pile. They can clearly balance the values but why remove all the new proximity, team, and role related bonuses?

Edited by Redshift2k5, 27 October 2014 - 03:10 PM.


#4 Prezimonto

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 03:11 PM

And that's a good thing, as the new rewards, mostly, reward varied gameplay across a wider range of mech classes and chassis. The numbers and triggers probably could use some tweaking, but the system as a whole is a great thing.

#5 Jonny Slam

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 03:16 PM

The new rewards is going to really really really discourage new pilots. It may also slow down sales, In my case I passed on buying a new chassis from the sales this weekend because I now know just how low the xp returns will be until I get 3x unlocked and I don't have that kind of extra time. Which I guess is the point of the new rewards.

From a revenue generating standpoint I can see why Russ and Co. did this, the rate of return is so low that people will be prodded into buying mastery bundles, buying piles of MC to convert xp from established rigs, etc.... It's about as ill-advised and blatant as the old gold mechs were.

Oh well, I will still keep playing, I am just glad I mastered my chassis, I don't think I will be Clanning-up any time soon now though.

#6 Alexander MacTaggart

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 03:18 PM

The problem isn't the new rewards system (moving focus away from damage/kills/assists is a good idea), the problem is with the implementation of that system (the minimum payout needs to be higher).

#7 TLBFestus

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 03:21 PM

If anything, they need to add to those rewards.

I still see nothing in the way of ECM cover bonuses, or AMS rewards, or....and the list could go on.

#8 AntiCitizenJuan

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 03:34 PM

View PostJabilo, on 27 October 2014 - 02:18 PM, said:

Okay, lets get it out in the open, clear and simple.

I request a poll in a high traffic area:

Keep Rewards 2.0

or

Reinstate old rewards.


New rewards, I make way more bills now. Why would I ever go back?

#9 cSand

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 03:42 PM

No

stop trying to waste PGI's time. I can tell you the outcome ahead of time: 50 50 or close to it.

If you think everytime there is a game mechanic change we deseve a poll, then you are mistaken sir. Just gonna have to suck it up sometimes

#10 terrycloth

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 03:53 PM

The old payouts on a loss sucked more than you're probably remembering. If you got rolled, or died quickly, and didn't have premium time, they were around 25-40k.

I remember when I was a new pilot hearing someone say I should be making 80k on a loss, and I was not making anywhere near that. It was discouraging, yes... but it's not *new*.

#11 MoonUnitBeta

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 04:16 PM

Rewards 2.0 here to stay! Tweaking and additions are necessary, but so far so good. I'm really looking forward to a few more rewards. I'd particularily be excited about one that you must take X amount of damage, and deal X amount of damage and you get a sweet bonus for that. Would be good for assaults.

#12 Xetelian

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 04:21 PM

The rewards are a good thing they just need to raise the amount...

#13 Lily from animove

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 04:23 PM

View PostJabilo, on 27 October 2014 - 02:18 PM, said:

Okay, lets get it out in the open, clear and simple.

I request a poll in a high traffic area:

Keep Rewards 2.0

or

Reinstate old rewards.


none of both, the new ones are basically a good idea, but they need soem tweaks.

#14 Milocinia

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 04:31 PM

To be fair, regardless of arguments for and against for R2.0, I'm making an absolute KILLING this weekend.

If I get good games/teams I can make up to 2m CB per hour (premium + hero).

My secret? There is none. I'm playing exactly the same as I ever have, for the team and as a medium skirmisher/brawler type without tag/narc/lurms.

I know the system isn't perfect but I do have to wonder how exactly some people are playing if they're receiving awful rewards when compared to lil' ol' me.

Or perhaps PGI secretly used my playstyle as a benchmark :ph34r:

#15 Prezimonto

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 05:49 PM

View PostKyocera, on 27 October 2014 - 04:31 PM, said:

To be fair, regardless of arguments for and against for R2.0, I'm making an absolute KILLING this weekend.

If I get good games/teams I can make up to 2m CB per hour (premium + hero).

My secret? There is none. I'm playing exactly the same as I ever have, for the team and as a medium skirmisher/brawler type without tag/narc/lurms.

I know the system isn't perfect but I do have to wonder how exactly some people are playing if they're receiving awful rewards when compared to lil' ol' me.

Or perhaps PGI secretly used my playstyle as a benchmark :ph34r:


Maybe that's why I'm in favor of this move. I feel like my play style is finally being rewarded closer to my contribution to the team.

#16 Angel of Annihilation

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 05:51 PM

I vote, new rewards with Higher Payout.

Concept is fine, execution is lacking. Losses shouldn't be dropping you under 50k regularly (100k and up on a loss) and in general wins with premium and a hero mech should be hitting 200k plus 90% of the time.

#17 Impyrium

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 05:52 PM

No more polls! For the love of all that is holy, do NOT let the community dig into yet another feature!

You know what the outcome would be. And it'd be anything but decisive.

#18 Nemesis Duck

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 06:06 PM

You seriously don't like like? Come on, back under the bridge with you.

#19 Xarian

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 06:07 PM

No. This is just backwards thinking.

#20 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 06:27 PM

personally i feel the Assists need to be brought back up,
but it does add a new enhanced experience to game play,
needs to be balanced though, which will happen in time,

everything ether starts off low and grows,
or starts off grand and shrinks,

also if you want Polls?
i have one on New Rewards,
Rewards That Need To Be Added/changed!
sorry this is probably the only Poll your getting,





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