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[Ghogiel]

It's too big because it's too long. At least the BJ has a slimmer profile and thinner legs. imo this this is just too thick to be that tall.

[Tahribator]

TrollvomiT, on 01 November 2014 - 03:28 AM, said:

Hey, the lenses on the lasers pivot to fire in the direction the Mechs targeting system is focused on is all. Future and all that. They're not gonna make lasers that fire straight out of the device like a laser pointer now are they?

How about that LBX2 shot coming out sideways from the barrel?

[zagibu]

The prime camo makes it look goofy, I guess it will look better with polygon.

[KuroNyra]

TrollvomiT, on 01 November 2014 - 03:28 AM, said:

Hey, the lenses on the lasers pivot to fire in the direction the Mechs targeting system is focused on is all. Future and all that. They're not gonna make lasers that fire straight out of the device like a laser pointer now are they?

They do in the books.
They don't change there direction like that.

[Golden Vulf]

I imagine whatever they do is a bit harder than ms paint.

http://bayimg.com/JacjiaAgJ

Edited by Golden Vulf, 01 November 2014 - 04:17 AM.

[Thorn Hallis]

The artwork looks great, the ingame result ********.

[F R A N C I S]

hmm... I have to agree with Thorn Hallis.
The artwork looks amazing... the actual mech is pretty ordinary

[Angel of Annihilation]

Well I am kind of disappointed.

This thing is pretty much a Cicada and needed to be about the same size (which is slightly bigger than a Jenner). Second, do you all see the size of that CT? It is huge and not only huge, it sticks out like a sore thumb from any direction your looking at it. Basically it is going to unconsciously draw in fire whenever someone targets it. Side profile is massive as well so it looks like it is going to be very easy to target despite its speed.

I may be wrong but I have a bad feeling about this one (and I had been looking forward to it too <sigh>)

Edited by Viktor Drake, 01 November 2014 - 06:46 AM.

[Carrioncrows]

Fenris: Sexy at first, then you see it in action.

[Ultimax]

Alistair Winter, on 01 November 2014 - 02:57 AM, said:

So... the mech on the left is 45 tons and the mech on the right is 35 tons?

That's what you're telling me, PGI?

The mech on the left is 28% bigger?

Standing next to the Jenner it just looks ridiculously huge.


Why do mediums constantly get the short end of the stick with scaling? Or why do lights get to be so stupid tiny?


The Ferret's waist line needs some slimming imo, way too thick.

[CDLord HHGD]

It's kinda cute, I like it.

[FupDup]

Ultimatum X, on 01 November 2014 - 07:35 AM, said:

Standing next to the Jenner it just looks ridiculously huge.


Why do mediums constantly get the short end of the stick with scaling? Or why do lights get to be so stupid tiny?


The Ferret's waist line needs some slimming imo, way too thick.

I view it as mediums being shafted rather than lights being "too small."

If lights were too small, they'd be dominating the game and wrecking everyone, and would probably make up a much larger portion of the queue instead of being a minority. But they're not. Not a whole lot of people play them, as indirectly evidenced by their usually small portion of the waiting queue (they get into games faster, because there's not as many of them). Of the few that do, even fewer truly "excel" as light pilots -- the rest are mostly target practice.

Increasing their size to be closer to mediums would simply make most of them bad (many of them are already bad). On the other hand, we also see that the medium class tends to be mostly ruled by a special few and the rest are basically filler. In general, people have been calling mediums the "red headed stepchild" of MWO for quite some time, although personally I think that situation ended with the advent of the Shadow Hawk.

So, with this evidence established, I believe that the real problem is just mediums being too big, rather than lights being too small. To put it in terms I've seen you use before, it would be sort of like trying to "improve" the Summoner by nerfing the Mad Cat; the same goes for trying to improve mediums by nerfing lights.


A sort of compromise might be to leave the "good" mediums alone (i.e. Griffin, Shad, Doomcrow) and only rescale (shrink) the sub-par ones so that they lie approximately in the center between current heavies and current lights.

Edited by FupDup, 01 November 2014 - 07:50 AM.

[Felio]

Appropriate for 45 tons, I guess, but too big to play it like an IS light. I'm not sure what that speed is good for if you're going to get dual-gaussed in the jewels when trying to hit and run.

[Mcgral18]

Alistair Winter, on 01 November 2014 - 02:57 AM, said:

So... the mech on the left is 45 tons and the mech on the right is 35 tons?

That's what you're telling me, PGI?

The mech on the left is 28% bigger?

Ultimatum X, on 01 November 2014 - 07:35 AM, said:

Standing next to the Jenner it just looks ridiculously huge.


Why do mediums constantly get the short end of the stick with scaling? Or why do lights get to be so stupid tiny?


The Ferret's waist line needs some slimming imo, way too thick.

You must also consider that the Jenner is a short, but long mech. The FireStarter would be a better comparison, due to the humanoid appearance that the Fenris shares.

It would still be tall in comparison, but there is a noticeable difference in the Jenner and Firestarter.

[ImperialKnight]

Man, that thing is freaking UGLY.

Alex's designs are always good. The modelling team needs to stop messing it up. I know it's not an easy job to translate concept art into a 3D model. But this? Come on!

[Mothykins]

1. THAT is one ugly mech.

2. Part of the scaling issue is the Endo/ferro that clans come stock with. The major reason they're not flooded with crits from them is because they're bulkier, and it translates to a larger frame. This is Actually lore related.

[Joseph Mallan]

FupDup, on 31 October 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

They really need to stop scaling mediums so big. Especially when those mediums end up being what amounts to a fat light (i.e. Fenris).

The Ice Ferret??? Fat??? Sir I beg to differ.

and the Mini

[FupDup]

Joseph Mallan, on 01 November 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

The Ice Ferret??? Fat??? Sir I beg to differ.

and the Mini

By "fat light" I mean that it basically has the same playstyle as a Jenner/Firestarter/etc but in a heavier package.

[Iqfish]

I highly doubt that these are leaked with permission.

[TercieI]

cdlord, on 01 November 2014 - 07:38 AM, said:

It's kinda cute, I like it.

I'm all for positive, but you just passed into delusional, bro.

Butt ugly.

Can't wait for Tuesday.