83 replies to this topic

[PurpleNinja]

Got a Huginn before the quirks just because I like the Raven design, now is one of my favorites mech.

That's why:

[CtrlAltWheee]

Ok NInja, I'll dust off the huginn

[Lucian Nostra]

re-tard-ed

[BourbonFaucet]

I tried SRM 4's on chainfire with Huginn

It was like 100 Crack Fist with SRMs.

Glorious.

[Foxfire]

Really don't think that these quirks will be left as is.

Honestly though.. these are the types of stats that I typically averaged in a Huginn before Quirks, when the Huginn was supposed to be worthless(the only exception is post MG 'fix' where MG's were made worthless tonnage again).

Edited by Foxfire, 06 November 2014 - 07:19 PM.

[Drop_FF]

I watched that video before a match started, and it just so happens you were there Ninja! It also just so happens the first mech I came across before I went to PPC snipe with the other Ice Ferret, was a Huginn D: My stomach turned, I settled in for what I was sure to be a short dog fight, then realized it was streak-2, SRM-6, machine guns... close call.

Edited by Narcissistic, 06 November 2014 - 07:44 PM.

[Foxfire]

Narcissistic, on 06 November 2014 - 07:43 PM, said:

I watched that video before a match started, and it just so happens you were there Ninja! It also just so happens the first mech I came across before I went to PPC snipe with the other Ice Ferret, was a Huginn D: My stomach turned, I settled in for what I was sure to be a short dog fight, then realized it was streak-2, SRM-6, machine guns... close call.

The Huginn, IMO, was never really a 'bad mech'... but it was a mech that was typically horrid(in most cases) in the early phases of the game, became good mid-game, and an absolute killer late game.

*edits to add*

To make sure, this is pre-quirk pass. Now it is a beast.

Edited by Foxfire, 06 November 2014 - 07:48 PM.

[Macksheen]

Poor thing is so ammo bound ....

[Brody319]

Its not a bad mech, but I feel the reliance on weapons that have ammo is what drags it down. I mean just replace 1 of those missiles with a laser and it would be one fantastic light mech.

But yea after the quirk pass its pretty scary. Never leave your whales behind.

[FupDup]

[Brody319]

FupDup, on 06 November 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

Just wanna say, traditional missiles would be absolute garbage in space. they don't have a shock wave or transfer heat very well because of the lack of air.

[Greenjulius]

Yeah, MGs just need stripped for more LRMs.

I'm loving the changes. I may actually use this thing now.

[Elkfire]

How did you manage to find so many people who ignore it when they start getting shot in the back repeatedly?

[Brody319]

Elkfire, on 06 November 2014 - 08:01 PM, said:

How did you manage to find so many people who ignore it when they start getting shot in the back repeatedly?

pugs

[Foxfire]

Greenjulius, on 06 November 2014 - 07:59 PM, said:

Yeah, MGs just need stripped for more LRMs.

I'm loving the changes. I may actually use this thing now.

To me, this is an issue.

MG's need to be effective as well. I honestly don't see how these bonuses don't get reduce on Quirk Pass round 2.. and my fear is that this issue will mask the need to address MG effectiveness.. if not in general, than specifically for this mech. MG range increase is laughable.

[PurpleNinja]

Narcissistic, on 06 November 2014 - 07:43 PM, said:

I watched that video before a match started, and it just so happens you were there Ninja! It also just so happens the first mech I came across before I went to PPC snipe with the other Ice Ferret, was a Huginn D: My stomach turned, I settled in for what I was sure to be a short dog fight, then realized it was streak-2, SRM-6, machine guns... close call.

Gone for DWF in that match, but there was a Timber Wolf hanging around and BAM, ammo explosion.
One can't win everytime.

[Greenjulius]

Foxfire, on 06 November 2014 - 08:04 PM, said:

To me, this is an issue.

MG's need to be effective as well. I honestly don't see how these bonuses don't get reduce on Quirk Pass round 2.. and my fear is that this issue will mask the need to address MG effectiveness.. if not in general, than specifically for this mech. MG range increase is laughable.

Yet a million forum goers claim that MGs are great. I have never seen someone play impressively with MGs. They can do some damage in a 6x config, but 4x are laughable and are the reason people ignore the Huginn.

When they lowered damage on the Huginn after they "found an issue" with it, that made the mech drop 100 damage a round from my usual average.

Edited by Greenjulius, 06 November 2014 - 08:10 PM.

[Brody319]

Greenjulius, on 06 November 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

Yet a million forum goers claim that MGs are great. I have never seen someone play impressively with MGs. They can do some damage in a 6x config, but 4x are laughable and are the reason people ignore the Huginn.

Actually 4 are decent. Anything below that is pretty much useless. The trial spider with 4 machine guns and 1 er large laser can rip people up before they can retaliate if they have no armor on.

[FupDup]

Speaking of MG effectiveness, it's actually COMPLETELY in PGI's current XML-coding potential to increase the "RoF" attribute of the Machine Gun (default value set to 10, meaning 10 bullets per second). How do I know this? Because AMS already has its own RoF modified by a module. Use the same type of code, but replace AMS with MGs and place it into a quirk instead of a module, and BLAMO you've got faster firing MGs (more DPS).

For some reason, though, they decided that all they feel like quirking about MGs is range. Trollolololololololololololloll.

Edited by FupDup, 06 November 2014 - 08:12 PM.

[Foxfire]

Greenjulius, on 06 November 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

Yet a million forum goers claim that MGs are great. I have never seen someone play impressively with MGs. They can do some damage in a 6x config, but 4x are laughable and are the reason people ignore the Huginn.

When they lowered damage on the Huginn after they "found an issue" with it, that made the mech drop 100 damage a round from my usual average.

My average dropped ~200. I went from averaging 400-650 to averaging 250-450 a match with the mech.

Brody319, on 06 November 2014 - 08:11 PM, said:

Actually 4 are decent. Anything below that is pretty much useless. The trial spider with 4 machine guns and 1 er large laser can rip people up before they can retaliate if they have no armor on.

A significant part of that has to do with 1 large laser. Take a mech that can equip 4 MG's, burn off the armor on a mech and see how long it takes you to actually burn through the internals. It takes a significant amount of time and ammo with MG's themselves( the one area where they are supposed to excel in).

I don't pilot anything that can equip more than 4 MG's, so I don't know abut things like the Arrow and such... but I know that 4 MG's took a significant hit with the damage reduction that they did.