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[Lightfoot]

The old quirks had the Awesomes running very well. Nothing flashy, they just worked to fix what the Awesome lacked which was actual DHS cooling and a tougher center torso. The new quirks are flashy, but revert the Awesome back to it's old weaknesses of being too Fat, Weak, Overheating, unable to group-fire.

Oh well, the Awesome was good for a few weeks, they should have left it's old Quirks alone.

[SweetJackal]

The Awesome still has cooling quirks, it generates less heat from general energy weapons and even less heat from PPCs. A grand total of 25% less heat. Trick is is that the cooldown also got reduced so that you can fire faster. Heat Per Shot got lowered but potential HPS went up.

[kilgor]

Sadly, the 8V didn't get the lower heat gen quirk, which it needed to stand a chance against the other assaults.

Edited by kilgor, 07 November 2014 - 08:26 PM.

[Impyrium]

... I really don't get these "New Awesome quirks ruin everythang" posts. My Awesome is running way cooler than it used to, thanks to the extreme PPC boosts. My 9M is now running proper ERPPCs and NOT exploding from heat. I'm assuming you're probably trying to run an Awesome without PPCs as its primary weapon... which is the exact opposite of what you're really supposed to do with it.

[Lightfoot]

The old quirks had the Awesome's heatsinks working faster and the center torso had more armor and structure instead of just structure. So now the Awesome is back to overheating and not cooling fast enough and it gets cored really fast. That's all.

[Walluh]

..What Awesome are you people playing? The 8Q isn't that hot..at all. If it is, you're doing something wrong. Or you're constantly alphaing.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Walluh, on 07 November 2014 - 08:39 PM, said:

..What Awesome are you people playing? The 8Q isn't that hot..at all. If it is, you're doing something wrong. Or you're constantly alphaing.

Alphaing?

Isnt that the sole basis of whether a mech is good or not in this game?
Can it 40pt Lolpha? Yes? Ok, its average
Can it 60pt Lolpha? Yes? Ok, its decent
Can it 1 shot a Direwolf? Yes? Its awesome....

So, judging by that, unless the Awesome can dual shot and quad shot ERPPCs endlessly, ofc its crap....

Edited by LordKnightFandragon, 07 November 2014 - 08:41 PM.

[pvtjamesr]

Whether you think these quirks are OP or balanced, there is no possible way you can argue that they made the mechs worse.

[pulupulu]

It is probably because awesome is not one of the very few mech with good quirks anymore.

Pre-quirk, awesome can probably truck over centurion easily before. Not so easy post-quirk, as cent is much better now. (random example out of my a$$)

Edited by pulupulu, 07 November 2014 - 08:59 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Lightfoot, on 07 November 2014 - 07:59 PM, said:

The old quirks had the Awesomes running very well. Nothing flashy, they just worked to fix what the Awesome lacked which was actual DHS cooling and a tougher center torso. The new quirks are flashy, but revert the Awesome back to it's old weaknesses of being too Fat, Weak, Overheating, unable to group-fire.

Oh well, the Awesome was good for a few weeks, they should have left it's old Quirks alone.

Its odd; I was arguing with someone else that the TTK has done down and I realized that the quirks may have not actuallt done anything.

The internal hp went up but so did the RoF
The RoF went up but then so did the heat
The heat went up but so did dissipation (on some mechs)

[Mcgral18]

pvtjamesr, on 07 November 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

Whether you think these quirks are OP or balanced, there is no possible way you can argue that they made the mechs worse.

Well, the Awesome already had some positive quirks that were changed.

Most even out, replaced heat dissipation by simply generating less heat.

[Walluh]

LordKnightFandragon, on 07 November 2014 - 08:41 PM, said:

Alphaing?

Isnt that the sole basis of whether a mech is good or not in this game?
Can it 40pt Lolpha? Yes? Ok, its average
Can it 60pt Lolpha? Yes? Ok, its decent
Can it 1 shot a Direwolf? Yes? Its awesome....

So, judging by that, unless the Awesome can dual shot and quad shot ERPPCs endlessly, ofc its crap....

No, it's not. The Awesome has stupid amounts of DPS, because it's..well, a PPC machinegun. It can chainfire them for quite a while, from a good distance, and it has good velocity compared to before.

Edited by Walluh, 07 November 2014 - 09:11 PM.

[El Bandito]

I am enjoying my 9M and 8R. Awesome is now better, not worse.

Edited by El Bandito, 07 November 2014 - 09:12 PM.

[Andi Nagasia]

um i don't pilot Awesome's but just here me out,
could it be that other mechs due to quirks are now more of a challenge?

if you could kill 3 cents before with your awesome,
but now you cant, is it really the awesome being nerfed,
or is it just the Cent was buffed more than the Awesome?

just how i'm looking at it,
other mechs may be more of a challenge,
so your mech may just seems worse,
and not actually be

Edit- Spelling,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 07 November 2014 - 09:18 PM.

[Rat of the Legion Vega]

Given how many PPC spamming Awesomes I see in the que now, I'd say they've jumped up to being very meta competitive. Look at the 5 ton lighter Orion if you want to see a mech that is truly terrible.

Lightfoot, on 07 November 2014 - 08:32 PM, said:

The old quirks had the Awesome's heatsinks working faster and the center torso had more armor and structure instead of just structure.

Extra magic armor on an assault mech is a silly idea anyway. If super advanced deluxe armor exists in the Inner Sphere that can provide extra protection for the same weight, why aren't the Clans using it as well?

[SaltBeef]

I will have to play mine again and see for myself!,... the last few matches they we slapping the shart out of everything.

[InKerenskyWeTrust]

My Wubsome is still Awesome, and now my 9M with 3 ERPPC's and 3 SL is Awesome as well. The quirks definitely helped the mech, but I think they did not go far enough with the Awesomes quirks I say. I will not be satisfied till people have a legitimate complaint of OP for the Awesomes.

Edited by Daoa Hakoke, 07 November 2014 - 10:23 PM.

[SaltBeef]

The Awsome needs to be Awsome!

[InKerenskyWeTrust]

The Awesome is Awesome, its just not for everybody. But it never hurts to make it even Awesomer.

Edited by Daoa Hakoke, 07 November 2014 - 10:28 PM.

[nitra]

awesome always gets cored fast .. key with awesome id to ensurer you apply your damge ... if you live through the game well thats amazing .