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[Jazzbandit1313]

Just wondering who here does it and who doesn't. I've started to store ammo there myself, and haven;t really noticed any ammo 'splosion related deaths. Before that, I was always too spooked to utilize those two lovely slots. Most people like me stick with legs and head, or even arms if they don't like the CT slots at all.

What do you all think? Do you die from CT ammo explosions often?

This question has always been floating around my head, but never really cared to make a forum post till I was building an LRM hunchy with a TAG in the head and it stirred my interest.

Edited by Jazzbandit1313, 14 November 2014 - 10:36 AM.

[Bilbo]

Jazzbandit1313, on 14 November 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

Just wondering who here does it and who doesn't. I've started to store ammo there myself, and haven;t really noticed any ammo 'splosion related deaths. Before that, I was always too spooked to utilize those two lovely slots.

What do you all think? Do you die from CT ammo explosions often?

Still using the legs and head first and it's usually enough for me anyway.

[SkyCake]

sometimes on clan mechs its the only good place to put it, but on IS i just put it in head, legs, arms...

[Cyborne Elemental]

I've always wondered this myself.

I figured its probably adding in extra damage to your structure if one of those ammo cells gets critted, but its usually the preferable place to stick ammo when the head is already filled and torso's are crammed full of DHS.

[MadMaxMKII]

i put it in ct for several month. for me it is the safest spot.

[SI The Joker]

Clan Mechs: Yes

IS Mechs: No

Why? Free CASE in Clan Mechs. Now that I think of it I never have looked to see if I have CASE on CT for the one mech that I have ammo there... so maybe it buys me nothing?

*shrug* Can't really put that ammo anywhere else, now can I, though?

[Xetelian]

Put it in the CT in both clan and IS mechs and no adverse effects to note. If you take enough damage to your CT that your ammo explodes you were probably going to die the next second anyway...but I still don't recall ever having it explode.

[Koniks]

CASE isn't a good reason to put ammo in Clan CTs. It doesn't prevent ammo explosions. It prevents damage from ammo explosions transferring to adjacent components. If your ammo explodes in your CT, your mech is most likely going to be destroyed.

[Dino Might]

CASE doesn't help if it's in CT - with ammo explosion, it destroys the whole location internally.

Blowing out the back armor is just a way to explain why the damage doesn't spread to adjacent areas. If you have a CT ammo explosion, you're gonna have a bad time. That being said, % chance of ammo explosion is relatively low, and you're likely so close to dead by the time it happens, I have not seen it matter much. Just like stripping armor from the head. It rarely matters. Then, once in a blue moon, you get one-shotted by artillery - not a big deal.

[Triordinant]

SI The Joker, on 14 November 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:

Clan Mechs: Yes

IS Mechs: No

Why? Free CASE in Clan Mechs. Now that I think of it I never have looked to see if I have CASE on CT for the one mech that I have ammo there... so maybe it buys me nothing?

*shrug* Can't really put that ammo anywhere else, now can I, though?

All Clanners should take this advice!

[Kensaisama]

Real Mechwarriors wear ammo bandoliers

[RangerGee412]

I put ac20 ammo in the ct of all my mechs. I like to live dangerously

[Rhent]

Piranha has made the chance of an ammo critical causing an explosion approaching ZERO percent. Putting ammo in MWO makes the most sense AFTER you have loaded ammo in your legs and head, after that, put it in your side torsos and lastly your arms.

A good rule of thumb is if you have a weapon system in the torso or arms put 1 ton of ammo in that location. Why? Because in MWO, weapon systems use ammo in the location closest to the weapon system. If you are losing an arm before you use a ton of ammo in that arm, you have serious play style issues.

[Bilbo]

Rhent, on 14 November 2014 - 09:30 AM, said:

Piranha has made the chance of an ammo critical causing an explosion approaching ZERO percent. Putting ammo in MWO makes the most sense AFTER you have loaded ammo in your legs and head, after that, put it in your side torsos and lastly your arms.

A good rule of thumb is if you have a weapon system in the torso or arms put 1 ton of ammo in that location. Why? Because in MWO, weapon systems use ammo in the location closest to the weapon system. If you are losing an arm before you use a ton of ammo in that arm, you have serious play style issues.

Ammo is drawn in this order:
Center Torso -> Right Torso -> Left Torso -> Right Arm -> Left Arm -> Left Leg -> Right Leg -> Head.

Location of weapons in relation to the ammo has nothing to do with it.

[Yosharian]

Please put ammo in your CT so I can kill you with ammo explosions

[Deathlike]

SI The Joker, on 14 November 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:

Clan Mechs: Yes

IS Mechs: No

Why? Free CASE in Clan Mechs. Now that I think of it I never have looked to see if I have CASE on CT for the one mech that I have ammo there... so maybe it buys me nothing?

*shrug* Can't really put that ammo anywhere else, now can I, though?

CASE will not stop an ammo explosion. If an ammo explosion goes off in the CT or side torsos, those sections will go.

Xetelian, on 14 November 2014 - 09:13 AM, said:

Put it in the CT in both clan and IS mechs and no adverse effects to note. If you take enough damage to your CT that your ammo explodes you were probably going to die the next second anyway...but I still don't recall ever having it explode.

I died by ammo explosion in a Clan Mech. It just happens that the other side torso was gone, thus the ammo explosion on the other side torso was fatal.

I expect to see more due to my own build though.

Anyways, putting ammo in the CT is a risk. Since ammo is consumed there first, you better expend that ammo ASAP or someone coring you will accelerate your death.

You can risk 1 ton, but if you can't spend that 1 ton quickly (like MG ammo), it is a liability. It's actually worse if you get cored pretty quick.

[SI The Joker]

Deathlike, on 14 November 2014 - 10:10 AM, said:

CASE will not stop an ammo explosion. If an ammo explosion goes off in the CT or side torsos, those sections will go.




I died by ammo explosion in a Clan Mech. It just happens that the other side torso was gone, thus the ammo explosion on the other side torso was fatal.

I expect to see more due to my own build though.

Anyways, putting ammo in the CT is a risk. Since ammo is consumed there first, you better expend that ammo ASAP or someone coring you will accelerate your death.

You can risk 1 ton, but if you can't spend that 1 ton quickly (like MG ammo), it is a liability. It's actually worse if you get cored pretty quick.

I know it doesn't stop it, was figuring more on the limited/lessened damage in the event that one did occur...

Just MG ammo, though so to your point... it's consumed pretty quickly.

[Bishop Steiner]

Jazzbandit1313, on 14 November 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

Just wondering who here does it and who doesn't. I've started to store ammo there myself, and haven;t really noticed any ammo 'splosion related deaths. Before that, I was always too spooked to utilize those two lovely slots. Most people like me stick with legs and hear, or even arms if they don't like the CT slots at all.

What do you all think? Do you die from CT ammo explosions often?

This question has always been floating around my head, but never really cared to make a forum post till I was building an LRM hunchy with a TAG in the head and it stirred my interest.

Depends on the mech and the room. Safer there in most cases than arms or STs. On an Atlas, it's a tossup, since you have so much IS that there are plenty of chances to hit it. But most Lights or MEdiums will be cored long before you worry about an ammo explosion.

[Thorqemada]

Of course yes - Ammo Explosion is a 10% Chance and you can use Ammo that will be (almost) depleted by the time you have to expose your CT dangerously.

PS: I put Ammo in Locations that make sense that way if a Weapon is destroyed i dont need the Ammo either - so Ammo for the Right Arm Weapon is in the RT, RL, or CT/Head, wherever i have slots and if the LT gets destroyed my Weapon still has its Ammo and when the RT gets destroyed i do not need the Ammo anymore.

Edited by Thorqemada, 14 November 2014 - 10:39 AM.

[Hotthedd]

If you are getting critted in the CT, an ammo explosion is the least of your worries at that point.