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[Sandpit]

Brody319, on 22 November 2014 - 02:25 PM, said:

Tournaments can change people's behavior. Forcing something like "staying alive" doesn't make people want to play better, it makes them terrified of death. People already want to stay alive, but in this game death isnt the end since you can still get assists. If we didn't have after death assists we would see this kind of terrified of death attitude everywhere in normal play. by Easy I meant that tournaments should encourage people to play better, not make them paranoid about messing up to the point where they are fleeing from battle in the hopes of advancing their progress.

lol REWARDING people for playing smart. I'm so sorry that all those players who previously spent every single event just running in to get a kill or assists and dying in 30 seconds can't do it this time.

Salty tears are the best tears

[Master Pain]

Brody319, on 22 November 2014 - 02:25 PM, said:

Tournaments can change people's behavior. Forcing something like "staying alive" doesn't make people want to play better, it makes them terrified of death. People already want to stay alive, but in this game death isnt the end since you can still get assists. If we didn't have after death assists we would see this kind of terrified of death attitude everywhere in normal play. by Easy I meant that tournaments should encourage people to play better, not make them paranoid about messing up to the point where they are fleeing from battle in the hopes of advancing their progress.

This +1million

[F4T 4L]

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

lol REWARDING people for playing smart. I'm so sorry that all those players who previously spent every single event just running in to get a kill or assists and dying in 30 seconds can't do it this time.

Salty tears are the best tears

Meh. Sometimes sacrifices need to be made. Except not here, not in the solo queue this weekend, anyway.

[Sandpit]

F4T 4L, on 22 November 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

Meh. Sometimes sacrifices need to be made. Except not here, not in the solo queue this weekend, anyway.

it's quite hilarious watching those that have spent every other tourney just running headlong into the enemy and exploiting the system and screwing over their team not be able to do that. It's great!

Best event ever PGI. Thank you! Please get more that concentrate on your team winning!

[B0oN]

How about an event where only headshots count ?
I´d be down for that

[The Boz]

"Surviving" is more in the player's hands than "winning" is. So players use their agency to ensure the one they have more control over. I am puzzled that PGI didn't see this.

[F4T 4L]

MadPanda, on 22 November 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

"0 friendly fire damage", figure out the rest mr creditcard.

OK, poor person.. so, that'd be true even though the conditions for a win require a kill.

That doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? It would likely make folk a little more cautious.. But honestly that'd be a good thing, IMHO.

[Master Pain]

Weekend challenges need to promote teamwork. This chellenge does not. Past challenges have not. Every weekend event has been about selfish play. This one is no different.

[F4T 4L]

Master Pain, on 22 November 2014 - 02:51 PM, said:

Weekend challenges need to promote teamwork. This chellenge does not. Past challenges have not. Every weekend event has been about selfish play. This one is no different.

QFT.

[Sandpit]

The Boz, on 22 November 2014 - 02:50 PM, said:

"Surviving" is more in the player's hands than "winning" is. So players use their agency to ensure the one they have more control over. I am puzzled that PGI didn't see this.

then move your mech right next to that "survivor" and bring the enemy straight to you

If you're already dea and they just shut down in a corner and refuse to play, report them. It's griefing, it's been well-documented that it's griefing, so take a screenie and report the,

Problem solved.

Once again, thank you for the vent PGI, it's nice to see deaths and losses actually have some consequences FINALLY

[B0oN]

Well ... I dunno if you count it as teamwork if you ask in chat who didnt have a kill already that round and one person who didnt have so far got one served then, but I do .
I even count it as teamwork when suddenly Pugs start following plans, that were laid out just for funsies and help make them into wonderful victories .
Hell ... I even go as far as counting it as teamwork when I provide a legged light some of my armor/step into a barrage intended for him to keep him safe behind my (mostly) massive backside

And yes ... I am guilty of killstealing ... but only because im too triggerhappy and barely am able to reign in the firepower.
So : Sorry to whomever I might have stolen a kill for this challenge .

This one is still one of the better thought out ones, so try to adapt, because you know why ...

[The Boz]

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:

then move your mech right next to that "survivor" and bring the enemy straight to you

So teamwork is literally trolling teammates that are trying to get points for the challenge?
Go forth and copulate with thine own self.

[Sandpit]

The Boz, on 22 November 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

So teamwork is literally trolling teammates that are trying to get points for the challenge?
Go forth and copulate with thine own self.

No teramwork is not running off into a corner and shutting down screwing over your entire team because "I wanna win my event point!"

Which one of those examples (yours or mine) is against the rules?
Hmmm...

but keep on keeping on, as I said, the tears are delicious. I can't WAIT for CW if it's as hardcore as this event is!

[Glythe]

The Boz, on 22 November 2014 - 02:50 PM, said:

"Surviving" is more in the player's hands than "winning" is.

I call BS! Be the last person alive with 7 minutes on the clock with 8 mechs looking for you.

Edited by Glythe, 22 November 2014 - 03:32 PM.

[Sandpit]

Glythe, on 22 November 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

I call BS! Be the last person alive with 7 minutes on the clock with 8 mechs looking for you.

as long as you're not shutting down in a corner and not playing, go for it!

[Mystere]

Rad Hanzo, on 22 November 2014 - 02:47 PM, said:

How about an event where only headshots count ?
I´d be down for that

I raise you with a double arm dismemberment followed by double legging.

Edited by Mystere, 22 November 2014 - 03:51 PM.

[MadLibrarian]

The idea is to incentivize good/normal behavior. The OP's suggestion seems to head in that direction. The current challenge does not seem to do this.

[Mystere]

Master Pain, on 22 November 2014 - 02:51 PM, said:

Weekend challenges need to promote teamwork. This chellenge does not. Past challenges have not. Every weekend event has been about selfish play. This one is no different.

Well, so far, I am seeing quite good team play in the solo queue, even though sometimes it required threats of me going

Banzai!

when someone tries to hide.

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:

If you're already dea and they just shut down in a corner and refuse to play, report them. It's griefing, it's been well-documented that it's griefing, so take a screenie and report the,

Problem solved.

Unfortunately, no. They're considered as having "participated" and as such powering down to hide becomes a legit tactic.

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:

then move your mech right next to that "survivor" and bring the enemy straight to you

And this is a good solution.

[Sandpit]

MadLibrarian, on 22 November 2014 - 03:52 PM, said:

The idea is to incentivize good/normal behavior. The OP's suggestion seems to head in that direction. The current challenge does not seem to do this.

Except for many it does.

Teamamte get a kill and run off to hide?
Just plop down right next to them and continue fighting.
Teammate moves?
Repeat process
Teammate gets mad and starts being belligerent because you won't let them game the system or exploit or screw their team over?
screenshot and report

Problem solved

Mystere, on 22 November 2014 - 03:58 PM, said:

Unfortunately, no. They're considered as having "participated" and as such powering down to hide becomes a legit tactic.

negative good sir, you must CONTINUE to participate. There's plenty of threads that have addressed this over the years. It's illegal and reportable so just do it!

[Mystere]

Glythe, on 22 November 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

I call BS! Be the last person alive with 7 minutes on the clock with 8 mechs looking for you.

My itsy bitsy spider knows a lot of hiding places, and I just discovered that the Mist Lynx has even more places to hide.