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[Thomas Covenant]

Simple question. When do we upgrade to "full game" status, what is the criteria to achieve that? When will the little blue 'beta' be knocked off?

thanks,
Spence, WA

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

This stopped being a "beta" a while ago. At this point, it's just a shield against criticism. In reality, it's a released product. Why is that? Because they're focusing just as much on releasing more stuff to sell as they are on "finishing" it. It's already a marketing cash crop, rather than strictly an "in development" title.

[Snib]

Bluten, on 01 March 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

This stopped being a "beta" a while ago. At this point, it's just a shield against criticism.

This. And because of that, to answer the OP's question, I suppose they'll keep that beta tag for a long long time.

[Deathlike]

It needs a whole lot more maps, probably @ min double than what we have now.

With mechs, there needs to be clan mechs and tech, if not a current series of mechs that cover more missing tonnage gaps and roles.

[Xiang]

I tend to believe that they will lift the BETA tag when Community Warfare goes live, that is their goal, but they will always be adding stuff to the game.

Xiang

[DamnCatte]

I dont think they will ever not be Beta, it just creates that easy excuse of "We're beta, we dont have to 'finish' the game." And as schmaltzy as that sounds, it's becoming really common to do that in MMO style games. If it happens, expect it to be way down the line... about the time a lot of people seem to predict the doom dates for MWO would be my guess.

[Corvus Antaka]

Community Warfare?

[Nexus Omega]

When they start taking real money payments,
Oh wait......

[POWR]

Answers to these threads are always dumb.

Do you consider the game a finished product now? After 1 year of development? OK. Why are you complaining then? It's finished! You can't expect anymore content, the game is finished after all. Now we just need like, 1 or 2 fixes and it's set to go for the ages.

What is odd, however, is having a beta that's not feature complete. Normally you'd call what we have here alpha.

Edited by POWR, 03 March 2013 - 02:12 AM.

[Cest7]

Its stopped being beta when they started accepting real world currency for in game assets.

The game will not be fully "Released" until community warfare is implemented.

[Kahoumono]

Taking money payments should be the final step to being out of Beta as you are testing the payment system and the economy. Although making such massive tweaks each patch means we are still very much in Beta. I think they will run into the problem of people expecting more when they pay for a service. When it comes up short of expectations people will just leave and not look back.

[KableGuy]

Why do you care? It's a fun game as it is now it can only get better from here.

[Velba]

POWR, on 03 March 2013 - 02:11 AM, said:

Answers to these threads are always dumb.

Do you consider the game a finished product now? After 1 year of development? OK. Why are you complaining then? It's finished! You can't expect anymore content, the game is finished after all. Now we just need like, 1 or 2 fixes and it's set to go for the ages.

What is odd, however, is having a beta that's not feature complete. Normally you'd call what we have here alpha.

Oh thank god, at least a reasonable post. Why do people assert that the ability to give a company money, means a product is out of a development stage? You are quite right, this would technically be an alpha, as all features are not in the game, beta would be when all promised features are included (that means you CW,DX11 can come too). The game can remain in the "beta" state as along as they are fixing and patching major bugs and issues. When this game is just "hiding" behind a "beta shield" is when the only update in a patch is cosmetic UI changes or something trivial like that.

If you buy in to the horrible logic prevalent in this thread. When Minecraft first did a "Alpha Stage" buy-in, they were actually a gold release. Which is not true. If you bought in, you were supporting a concurrent development process. Which is the case here. If you "buy in" you are supporting a concurrent development process, of a game, currently in development.

Damn you Minecraft, now everyone wants their fans to support them during a concurrent development process. CONCURRENTLY, ERGO,VIS-A-VIS !!!!!!!!!!

[Nexus Omega]

+1 for the above post, I was messing before,

I bought into minecraft all those years ago, and still play it,

I will keep playing MW:O until its released, and probably long after,
I still play MW 4 Mercs, I like big stompy robots,

I will likely buy MC during the next sale. I want this game to get finished and flourish.

[Snib]

Velba, on 03 March 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

Oh thank god, at least a reasonable post. Why do people assert that the ability to give a company money, means a product is out of a development stage? You are quite right, this would technically be an alpha, as all features are not in the game,

Since practically all f2p games (as well as subscription games) are in constant development do they all never leave alpha stage then?

In the market that MWO is in it counts as released and that's all which matters.

[Velba]

Snib, on 03 March 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

Since practically all f2p games (as well as subscription games) are in constant development do they all never leave alpha stage then?

In the market that MWO is in it counts as released and that's all which matters.

Well your wrong. The initial content promised for a version 1.0 constitutes a gold release. Any additional content released is know as DLC or an expansion or more content, it is not know as a never ending alpha.

Your opinion of what MWO counts as in the market it is in is irrelevant, never mind wrong. All that matters are the facts. Nice try.

[Aratan Aenor]

This game really isn't a "beta", it's more like a pre-alpha whose code was scribbled on a wet napkin at a bar in Canada.

[Nawiedzony]

it end to be a beta, when they start to make money on it ...

[AsakuraZero]

not talking on defence of PGI, but if you want to complain go to GW2 forums you will be kicked on the nut for that. At least here you know they sorta listen and roam the forums (taking on account they still need to balance ECM)

Also development stage ends when they stop feeling the need for lab rats to test the core functions (state rewind which is going to be applied this month), and so on.

this threads never gets old btw

[Snib]

Velba, on 04 March 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

Well your wrong. The initial content promised for a version 1.0 constitutes a gold release. Any additional content released is know as DLC or an expansion or more content, it is not know as a never ending alpha.

Your opinion of what MWO counts as in the market it is in is irrelevant, never mind wrong. All that matters are the facts. Nice try.

MWO release was promised for last summer and all the content that was promised for release is in the game (and more). So you just confirmed the game is released. Thanks.