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[xxREVxx]

SHADOWHAWK???!!!

[TheSilken]

Ugh..................surats. When will they learn?

[Azure Kit]

Reverend Poison, on 24 March 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:

SHADOWHAWK???!!!

Scared? Well you should be!!

[Thorn Fidelis]

Eat Popcorn Kiddo Drama

I Like Mechwarrior Online And Music And Cool People Something You Dont Get Anywhere Else The Game - How We Do

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Edited by Shiro Takachi, 25 March 2015 - 02:40 PM.

[Thorn Fidelis]

Doing 1vs1 As A Clanner Should Be Every Day To Keep Sharp On Skill Piloting Someone Should Make A Ten Commandment Rules And This Should Be On For Any Clanner I Love 1vs1 For Fun And To Make Myself Better

Edited by Shiro Takachi, 25 March 2015 - 02:51 PM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

They did in MW2. A booklet was attached entitled Codes & Procedures of the Warrior Caste.

[Thorn Fidelis]

Ah And Also No Legging On 1vs1 That For Me is
Dishonorable Only Inner Sphere Noobs Do That On A 1vs1

Edited by Shiro Takachi, 25 March 2015 - 04:24 PM.

[TheSilken]

Zellbrigen says legging is perfectly legal and honorable even in its most strict forms.

[Thorn Fidelis]

Do You Have A Link Of The Warrior Caste Rules?

That Is Not Honorable Trust Me And If it is True Clanners Should Not Do it is A Disgrace Of All Clanners Pride
You Can Do it On Public Matches But Not 1vs1

Edited by Shiro Takachi, 25 March 2015 - 04:37 PM.

[Thorn Fidelis]

If Any Tells Me About My Name I Got it From This Guy
Is Not Kurita Associated I Think I Will Make Another Account Just For That TO Change it Because There is A Guy Name Shiro On Kurita Also

Edited by Shiro Takachi, 25 March 2015 - 04:57 PM.

[TheSilken]

Shiro Takachi, on 25 March 2015 - 04:36 PM, said:

Do You Have A Link Of The Warrior Caste Rules?
That Is Not Honorable Trust Me And If it is True Clanners Should Not Do it is A Disgrace Of All Clanners Pride. You Can Do it On Public Matches But Not 1vs1

Zellbrigen is ok with legging in lore so that players who wanted to use that fluff could do so in TT. In TT you can't choose where your shots go unless you have a Targeting Computer (which is not viewed as a sporting piece of equipment in lore for duels). Meaning, if zellbrigen were against legging it would be impossible for anyone to obey it since a couple random shots could easily leg their opponent. This is why legging is perfectly legal according to zellbrigen. Lore zellbrigen is all that matters.

[The Mechromancer]

Shiro Takachi, on 25 March 2015 - 04:39 PM, said:

If Any Tells Me About My Name I Got it From This Guy

I ******* loved GW1.

[Thorn Fidelis]

Ok I Did Not Know That

[Jaroth Corbett]

Shiro Takachi, on 25 March 2015 - 04:36 PM, said:

Do You Have A Link Of The Warrior Caste Rules?

That Is Not Honorable Trust Me And If it is True Clanners Should Not Do it is A Disgrace Of All Clanners Pride
You Can Do it On Public Matches But Not 1vs1

You do not know of what you speak so no I cannot trust you because I know what you say is not accurate/true. Legging is NOT dishonorable. Legging was an issue back in MW3 because destroying one leg meant the mech was destroyed. Some people felt it was a cheap way to win, whined. moaned & bitched about it until it became something to avoid. The stigma tried to carry over into MW4 but the people like you who whined. moaned & bitched about it were laughed because, wait for it, IT WAS NOT MW3. (I have heard that the same game mechanics held true for MW2 but since I never played it myself, I cannot confirm that.)

Also a true child of Kerensky does not refer to his/her trothkin as "Clanners" but "Clansmen." The term "Clanner" is a derogatory title used by Inner Sphere freebirths.

Clansmen take pride in being able to target specific parts of an enemy, doing the most damage with the least effort. We are surgeons not butchers like the spheroids.

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Both of the Masakari's PPCs and its large pulse lasers successfully hit the Daishi's damaged right leg, evaporating the last bit of armor like a water droplet on a hot griddle. The four energy beams combined to melt the leg clean away. Myomer muscles bubbled and exploded. The ferro-titanium femur glowed white-hot before it became transparent and insubstantial.

Their energy insufficiently spent, the beams tracked upward. Burning through the remnants of armor on the Daishi's right side, they touched off an explosion of the anti-missile system's ammo. The concussion panels in his command couch smashed into Victor's back and neurohelmet, momentarily disorienting him. The cockpit whirled him around as if his 100-ton war machine were a rag doll caught in a cyclone, then unceremoniously bashed him again as the 'Mech pounded into the ground.

Victor shook his head to clear it and found himself hanging from the restraining straps of the command couch. Focusing beyond the holographic display that showed the Masakari getting back to its taloned feet, he saw only blackness through the viewports. His eyes confirmed what gravity had already told him—that his 'Mech had landed face-down in the dirt. With only one leg and my right-side armor breached front and back, there's no way I can continue the fight.

Glancing at the approaching Masakari in the display, he mentally amended that idea. And there's no way Ranna is going to let me continue the fight. I can't even punch out!

Leaving no doubt as to why the BattleMech had ruled warfare since its creation six centuries earlier, the Masakari concentrated all four of its guns on the downed Daishi. Aiming in deliberate and well-practiced moves that showed Victor why the Clans had so easily swept through the Inner Sphere, the Masakari opened the Daishi's back like a coroner doing an autopsy. The PPC bolts fried structural stabilizers while the lasers sliced through ferro-titanium ribs.

The lasers freed the Daishi's fusion engine from its mountings. It dropped down, the safeguards in it snuffing the reaction before it could explode. As if the Masakari had pulled the Daishi's heart out, Victor's 'Mech shuddered once, then all the monitors died, leaving him hanging in a hot, dark cocoon.

Natural Selection Pg. 61-62





Adhering to the strictest definition of Zellbrigen means that you only engage the enemy who has accepted your challenge or vice versa. If one of your opponent's allies opens fire on you, you are allowed to fire on your original opponent as well as the one that also engaged you. Zellbrigen is suspended if an enemy is declared dezgra.

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A tone sounded. Cage stepped out of the holotank and closed the hatch behind him.

Rood waited, then reached across the control panel and touched a control.

A moment later the shape of a woman in a Jade Falcon khan’s uniform appeared, glowering. Rood felt the corners of his lips twitch in a smile—he had never once seen Samantha Clees, in their rare times they had both attended Grand Council meetings, not glowering.

He waited until she met his eyes and nodded.

“Welcome to Lackhove, Khan Clees,” he said.

The Jade Falcon task force was still several light-seconds out, so there was a minimum delay, but Clees’ avatar ducked its chin back at him. “Khan Rood,” she said. “A pleasure to see you in the Inner Sphere.” She straightened and crossed her arms. “A pity you will not be staying.”

Rood let his grin show. “We shall see,” he said. “I presume you are here to bid for a Trial of Possession for this, the newest world in the Ice Hellion Occupation Zone?”

“I am not,” she said.

“Just passing through, then?” Rood asked. He forced himself to stand still, but his palms had begun to sweat. “Or will you allow a Star Colonel or Galaxy Commander to bid for the honor of being defeated by the Lithe Kill?”

His mind raced. This was a ploy he had not expected. A Khan expected to treat with a Khan, when both were present. For the Jade Falcons to let a lesser officer bid with him for possession of Lackhove was a calculated insult. Does she think she can rattle me with gamesmanship?

The delay passed, the seconds necessary for his words to reach her on her own WarShip’s holotank and the seconds her words took to reach him.

“There will be no bidding,” she said.

“I am pleased to offer you the hospitality of Lackhove, then,” Rood said. He smiled. “We have found it a bit lacking in creature comforts, but I am sure proper Ice Hellion merchants and laborers will get it up to Hector standards in no time.”

No bidding? his mind yelled. Why would they come in-system if they don’t intend to attack?

When her image finished listening to his words, Clees’ eyes hardened. “Gamma Galaxy will wipe the Ice Hellions off Lackhove,” she said, “and every other world the Jade Falcons claim. Because of the actions of your Clan on Wotan and Evciler, I have named the Ice Hellions dezgra in the eyes of the Jade Falcons.”

Rood’s jaw clenched. He was careful to make certain his fists did not, but Clees could not fail to see the prominent muscles in his jaw work. It wasn’t the words themselves—not directly, anyway—but what they represented.

Dezgra. To be named dezgra by a Clan was to be named filth, no better that bandits. It meant that the naming Clan no longer felt bound by the conventions of zellbrigen, and that they were free to attack anywhere, at any time, using as much force as necessary and whatever tactics they chose to eradicate the disgraced.

Put simply, it meant that the Jade Falcons’ gloves had come off.

In Clan space, declarations of dezgra were rarely leveled except by individuals against individuals. To name a Clansman a bandit was to invite challenge; a Trial of Grievance at best, or a Trial of Refusal. For a Clan khan to name an entire Clan dezgra meant that the Jade Falcons had challenged the Ice Hellions into, effectively, a Trial of Annihilation. The only way for Rood and his Hellions to wipe the stain off of their honor, in the Jade Falcons’ eyes, was to defeat them in combat.

Edited by Jaroth Corbett, 25 March 2015 - 11:14 PM.

[TheSilken]

Jaroth Corbett, on 25 March 2015 - 10:50 PM, said:

Adhering to the strictest definition of Zellbrigen means that you only engage the enemy who has accepted your challenge or vice versa. If one of your opponent's allies opens fire on you, you are allowed to fire on your original opponent as well as the one that also engaged you. Zellbrigen is suspended if an enemy is declared dezgra.

Quite true trothkin-bro. However, for most Trials if someone opens fire upon someone not in the fight or vice verse then a Grand Melee erupts allowing everyone the right to fight. An example of this is when Clan Widowmaker warriors attempted to intervene in a Trial and the Clan Wolf warriors were allowed to enter the fight to stop them. Another rule of zellbrigen not mentioned is the fact that you should not intentionally move out of line of sight (LOS) of your opponent nor fire upon them if you are out of their weapon range. If you do either of these frequently in a duel, the duel then becomes void and is immediately cancelled.

Edited by TheSilken, 26 March 2015 - 08:26 AM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

I think you are getting some things mixed up.

Trials are set up so that people who are NOT involved in said Trials will not be in harm's way. All warriors who are in fight move to the designated Circle of Equals. If Zellbrigen is in play, then one warrior from one side challenges a warrior from the other side & they fight. This goes on & on until a victor is declared. As I also said, if Mechwarrior A & B are fighting & Mechwarrior C who is allied with B shoots at A, A can still shoot at B & is now allowed to also shoot at C. It does not just become a free for all.

A Grand Melee is a part of a Trial of Bloodright, not a common free for all.

I am not sure which Trial you are referring to regarding the Widowmakers. Please elaborate.

That LOS thing is for TT not the actual lore. You can refer to the novels Bloodname and/or Lost Destiny to confirm this.

The information you have is either outdated or irrelevant to MWO, unfortunately.

Edited by Jaroth Corbett, 26 March 2015 - 09:53 AM.

[TheSilken]

You are allowed to move out of LOS but not all the time. Very frequent and abusive use of this tactic (hill humping/poptarting fall under this) is viewed as dishonorable and will void the duel. Same for firing outside of your opponents weapons' range (kiting falls under this). As for the Widowmaker thing I rechecked it but it was the referees not the Clan Wolf warriors who intervened so that mention was wrong. But, regardless, you were slightly wrong also. If warriors A and B are in a duel and warrior C attacks warrior A, then warrior A is allowed to fire upon warrior C AND the designated refs of the Trial/duel will intervene against warrior C also.

Edited by TheSilken, 26 March 2015 - 10:06 AM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Ah, you were referring to the slaying of Nicholas Kerensky regarding the Widowmakers.

Actually it does not & as I said you can refer to the novels I listed to confirm this.

Again firing outside your enemy's weapon range is for TT & not for the Mechwarrior game. Since each warrior configures his mech however he/she wants to, he/she will put on whatever weapons they want. It is not one warrior's prerogative to stay in the weapon range of his enemy. That is not in the lore. If you brought an AC20 then you better find a way for your ass to get in range to use it. The enemy is not obligated to do anything to give you an advantage in any way shape or form.

No I was not wrong. Zellbrigen allows the firing on of a target that fired on you that was not the original target, it does NOT render the entire Trial void. Let me go further. In a Trial of Possession there are no refs to intervene. So the rules are clear. If A & B are fighting, & C who is an ally of B shoots at A, A can still shoot B & can now shoot C as well. IF however this happens frequently (the interfering of duels between two warriors when Zellbrigen was expected in the first place) THEN at that time Zellbrigen can be cast aside.

I hope you take the time do some reading to clear up the things you are mistaken about.

Edited by Jaroth Corbett, 26 March 2015 - 10:33 AM.

[TheSilken]

I said that you can fire outside of their weapon range but not for the entire duel. Constantly kiting your opponent is viewed as dishonorable and will void the match. Just as you mentioned that they chose to bring an AC-20 you chose to not bring short range weapons. The point of a duel is to have the warriors fight not have 1 flee the whole time scoring hits while never coming within range of his opponent. Name me one duel where one warrior kited the whole time so that his opponent(s) were always out of range? Never because it's dishonorable. Same with LOS. You can move out of LOS but if you always hill hump/poptart for the whole match then it again voids the fight. No duel in Clan history has 1 warrior spent the whole time avoiding his opponent. Why? Because it's dishonorable and doesn't prove anything other than that.

[Thorn Fidelis]

We Should Put The Best Of Each Clan And Do 1vs1 Weekly And The Lore Needs To Be Updated I Still Believe Shooting A Leg IN A Skill Match Does Not Count As Skill And I Never Whine I Leg People In MechWarrior 4 And In MechWarrior Online Everyday I Don't Have Nothing Against it But If You A True Clanner Like I Like To Say it And I Can Say Like I Want ! Legging 1vs1 Is Not Honorable Is Dishonarable Why? Because You Showing Your Pride And Skill Of What You Can Do In The Battlefield Something Real Clanners Like I Like To Say it Will Respect And Praise And Speak Of Your Skill Legging Does Not Prove You Good The Lore Needs To Be Updated To Separate True Clansmen Or Clanners From The Fake One That Want To Be Here True Clansmen Or Clanner Show Honor And Respect By Rank And Skill That Will Bring Life To All The Clans And Make it Fun To Be One If You Want To Talk About The Lore And Be Suck At This Game is 2 Different Thinks Look At This Video I Was Part Of Death Legion In MechWarrior 4 Mercenaries We Where A Clan The Russian Death Legion is Not The Same As Death Legion I Was Also Part Of (USA) Unseen Sniper Alliance The Leader Was (Chain) Dog We Implemented This Rules Specially In Death Legion My Name is Shredder My Name Has A Meaning Because I Tear You Up Into Pieces That is How I Got My Name

Edited by Shiro Takachi, 26 March 2015 - 03:46 PM.