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[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 07 December 2014 - 07:34 AM, said:

And what colors are those Jerseys Bis? My Joe Greene Steeler Jersey is Black and Yellow as was Joe Greene's when he wore it.

Official NFL Jersey

one from your Squeallers

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 07 December 2014 - 07:36 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 December 2014 - 07:35 AM, said:

Official NFL Jersey

one from your Squeallers

But not the Official players knock off.

And Yeah... Pitts has become a shell of what once was!

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 07 December 2014 - 07:38 AM, said:

But not the Official players knock off.

And Yeah... Pitts has become a shell of what once was!

Well, Rapistburger SHOULD be wearing stripes..... but that is a different conversation.......

[-Halcyon-]

Getting thread back on track.

[Karl Marlow]

I would use my hero mechs more often if I could put my units camo pattern on it. Sometimes just changing the colors doesnt look right with the default hero pattern.

[Joseph Mallan]

ThomasMarik, on 08 December 2014 - 12:59 AM, said:

I would use my hero mechs more often if I could put my units camo pattern on it. Sometimes just changing the colors doesnt look right with the default hero pattern.

What Are your Unit colors? I have the Atlas-S and Centurion-AH In Murphy's Colors (Blue/Black/Ochre). I even have Hellslinger in 'em as well. YLW only has 2 colors but I can go any two color combo of the unit colors...

[Angel of Annihilation]

Bishop Steiner, on 04 December 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:

It's an idea that's been kicking around sinc ethe YLW was released, actually.

At some point they gave some ground and allowed us to change dolors. Allowing people who want the Hero, but for "Reason XYZ" don't want to be locked into the camo, would actually boost sales on some, if not all models. And might even boost paint sales a bit.

As I noted, the "Package" ones won't happen because their unique geometry means the entire thing has to have the skins remapped. Won't happen, and end of the day, no biggie. Heroes though, are a simple thing since to the best of my knowledge, the geometry is not unique.

One thing is certain, PGI has been much more open to suggestions since the IGP divorce. 2 recent ones was me getting Russ to change the "prime" Zeus for the Resistance pack to the traditional 6S (and thus the ballistics arm) and small post with like 30 replies getting them to decide to remove the states in river city on the 12-16 patch.

So if we don't ask, it definitely won't happen. By asking, the worst that can happen is they say no.

I don't understand why a couple pieces of unique geometry require the mech to be entirely re-skinned. I mean just re-skin the areas that are unique geometry simple as that. Also Camos for the most part are just random patterns, so it doesn't have to be perfect.

[ShinobiHunter]

I would love to paint all my mechs the same color and pattern for CW, even the Hero's. I really don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to, it doesn't hurt anything, and I would like for my dropdeck to match...

RG Notch, on 05 December 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:

GTFOH people really honestly objected on moral grounds to a skin? Those are irrational people and someone should butt hurt them. Every time I think I've heard the stupidest thing possible on these forums it's trumped by even more stupidity.

I won't buy a Firebrand based on the skin... Say what you will, but I find it offensive. If I could change the skin there is a good chance I would buy one, but until then it's a no go for me.

Edited by ShinobiHunter, 08 December 2014 - 07:25 PM.

[Hillslam]

Stating again:

Product bought for real cash should do more than product that given for free. Allow the heroes to have their unique camo as a SELECTABLE choice, but retain the gamut of chassis camos for use as well.

It should not be a trade off of "get extra Cbill 30% at the expense of no camo choices AND paying real world money for it"

Adding this capability hurts no-one.

Edited by Hillslam, 08 December 2014 - 07:26 PM.

[Wolfwood592]

ShinobiHunter, on 08 December 2014 - 07:23 PM, said:

I won't buy a Firebrand based on the skin... Say what you will, but I find it offensive. If I could change the skin there is a good chance I would buy one, but until then it's a no go for me.

Agreed, thats the primary reason I refuse to purchase a Yen Lo

[ShinobiHunter]

Wolfwood592, on 08 December 2014 - 07:26 PM, said:

Agreed, thats the primary reason I refuse to purchase a Yen Lo

I was not previously aware that the Yen Lo was offensive. Although now it makes sense, I had never realized that it was a Japanese flag on a Chinese mech. I'll add it to my list of Heros I won't buy...

[Desolator]

ShinobiHunter, on 08 December 2014 - 07:23 PM, said:

I won't buy a Firebrand based on the skin... Say what you will, but I find it offensive. If I could change the skin there is a good chance I would buy one, but until then it's a no go for me.

So you are offended by make believe? Since Mechwarrior is make believe shouldn't the game offend you?

What is offensive about the Firebrand? Oh because is has meaningless words and numbers scrawled on it and looks cool it is offensive.

The firebrand is no more offensive for having From Hell and 666 on it, than the new Loyalty mechs are for having angels on them.

Heaven and Hell coexist, you can not have one without the other. They are not offensive in any manner, they are only offensive, because YOU interpret them to be.

Religious people are so screwed up in the head, they have no objective grasp on reality.

[Wolfwood592]

ShinobiHunter, on 08 December 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

I was not previously aware that the Yen Lo was offensive. Although now it makes sense, I had never realized that it was a Japanese flag on a Chinese mech. I'll add it to my list of Heros I won't buy...

My biggest complaint is the global atrocities associated with the Rising Sun. Many places will not even allow it to be flown, yet its a "cool" camo in MWO


*Desolator are you serious? Ignorance and those comments do not fit you. Let the guy have hive opinions but don't prove your close mindedness and inability to coexist by creating issues where none exist.

Edited by Wolfwood592, 08 December 2014 - 07:37 PM.

[ShinobiHunter]

Desolator, on 08 December 2014 - 07:34 PM, said:

So you are offended by make believe? Since Mechwarrior is make believe shouldn't the game offend you?

What is offensive about the Firebrand? Oh because is has meaningless words and numbers scrawled on it and looks cool it is offensive.

The firebrand is no more offensive for having From Hell and 666 on it, than the new Loyalty mechs are for having angels on them.

Heaven and Hell coexist, you can not have one without the other. They are not offensive in any manner, they are only offensive, because YOU interpret them to be.

Religious people are so screwed up in the head, they have no objective grasp on reality.

I have no intentions of getting into a religious debate on here, however I will answer you're questions.

It's not "make believe". You may feel that way, but that is your problem, it's very real to me. I am not offended in the least by anything imaginary, therefore no, Mechwarrior does not offend me.

I dislike the Satanic markings on the Firebrand, although they don't particularly offend me. The are, however, offensive to others and I feel it would be inconsiderate to sport them. Same reason I won't get a Yen Lo Wang, or Hellslinger. Or put curse words on my car or wear a shirt with a Swastika on it...

BTW, as far as I know, nobody is actually offended by angels. Except perhaps Satanists....

[Bishop Steiner]

ShinobiHunter, on 08 December 2014 - 07:23 PM, said:

I would love to paint all my mechs the same color and pattern for CW, even the Hero's. I really don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to, it doesn't hurt anything, and I would like for my dropdeck to match...



I won't buy a Firebrand based on the skin... Say what you will, but I find it offensive. If I could change the skin there is a good chance I would buy one, but until then it's a no go for me.

You silly superstitious person! How dare you have your own personal standards and moral boundaries you don't find a video game compelling reason to cross!!! Don't you see it's just a game and your flying spaghetti monster doesn't care!

ShinobiHunter, on 08 December 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:

I have no intentions of getting into a religious debate on here, however I will answer you're questions.

It's not "make believe". You may feel that way, but that is your problem, it's very real to me. I am not offended in the least by anything imaginary, therefore no, Mechwarrior does not offend me.

I dislike the Satanic markings on the Firebrand, although they don't particularly offend me. The are, however, offensive to others and I feel it would be inconsiderate to sport them. Same reason I won't get a Yen Lo Wang, or Hellslinger. Or put curse words on my car or wear a shirt with a Swastika on it...

BTW, as far as I know, nobody is actually offended by angels. Except perhaps Satanists....

which is funny, since their god is a fallen angel......

[Wolfwood592]

What if we could pay MC to open the custom camo/color tab on our Hero mechs or special variants???

[Bishop Steiner]

ShinobiHunter, on 08 December 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

I was not previously aware that the Yen Lo was offensive. Although now it makes sense, I had never realized that it was a Japanese flag on a Chinese mech. I'll add it to my list of Heros I won't buy...

yeah, I bought one (well, two actually) before I really was aware of the hubbub. Sdly, it also became an all time favorite chassis to run. SO I try at least to have a very NON Imperial Japan color scheme at least, going with a "Black Sun" motif. But I admit, it's a bit of a whitewashed justification that won't stand up to any serious challenge. And is one reason I would like Heroes able to change their paint schemes.

Wolfwood592, on 08 December 2014 - 08:02 PM, said:

What if we could pay MC to open the custom camo/color tab on our Hero mechs or special variants???

I'd do it, though IMO; I think the extra people willing to buy the chassis, combined with paint/camo purchases would cover it.

[Bishop Steiner]

Wolfwood592, on 08 December 2014 - 07:34 PM, said:

My biggest complaint is the global atrocities associated with the Rising Sun. Many places will not even allow it to be flown, yet its a "cool" camo in MWO


*Desolator are you serious? Ignorance and those comments do not fit you. Let the guy have hive opinions but don't prove your close mindedness and inability to coexist by creating issues where none exist.

Yeah. In the West we very much are shocked and offended, in general by the Swastika, yet fail to understand and sympathize that in the Pan-Asian regions, the Rising Sun carries the same connotations for evil and atrocity.

And just as blindly overlook the Soviet Star, despite Stalin and company killing far more Jews than {Godwin's Law}. Such a myopic and selective world we live in.

[Wolfwood592]

Bishop Steiner, on 08 December 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

Yeah. In the West we very much are shocked and offended, in general by the Swastika, yet fail to understand and sympathize that in the Pan-Asian regions, the Rising Sun carries the same connotations for evil and atrocity.

And just as blindly overlook the Soviet Star, despite Stalin and company killing far more Jews than {Godwin's Law}. Such a myopic and selective world we live in.

I think that many people forget about what goes on simply from an educational standpoint. If I hadn't exposed myself after I got out of the military I may not have known myself.


I am sure that paying for the unlock would work, but it would take a substantial amount of people asking for it to make it happen.

[Desolator]

ShinobiHunter, on 08 December 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:

I have no intentions of getting into a religious debate on here, however I will answer you're questions.

It's not "make believe". You may feel that way, but that is your problem, it's very real to me. I am not offended in the least by anything imaginary, therefore no, Mechwarrior does not offend me.

I dislike the Satanic markings on the Firebrand, although they don't particularly offend me. The are, however, offensive to others and I feel it would be inconsiderate to sport them. Same reason I won't get a Yen Lo Wang, or Hellslinger. Or put curse words on my car or wear a shirt with a Swastika on it...

BTW, as far as I know, nobody is actually offended by angels. Except perhaps Satanists....

That just it, you think it is real, but that doesn't make it real, but that is your problem.

Again, they are not satanic markings, if I wrote you a check for $666 would you not take it, because it represents some imaginary context that you made up.
The simple fact that only 33% of the world is christian is a pretty damn good indication, that only these people view that number as satanic. It's also a good indication that it isn't real.
Pitchforks, a tool for hundreds of years, somehow has been warped into a satanic symbol, by christians and only christians.
A buddist or hindu doesn't look at the number 666 and a pitchfork and think of satanic things. Why is this, because they aren't real things nor are they satanic.

There are no such things as curse words either, there are just words. Words only have meaning based on the context they are given and/or recieved in.

Swastika is also just a symbol, it is meaningless. It is only a persons interpretation of that symbol that gives it any meaning.

BTW as far as I know, nobody is actually offended by the number 666 or the words From Hell, or a pitchfork. Execpt perhaps christians...and that is probably, because it is childish to be so.

The world has become over emotional on every topic, and if the wind blows in the wrong direction it offends someone.