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[Felio]

I have done a lot of Griffin piloting and never had this problem before. I have played 8 matches in it now, and in every single one have I lost an arm, often both.

I compared the arms, and there is only a small difference:

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The Griffin 1N, with XL 360 three medium lasers and three streaks, is by far my best-performing mech. But with Sparky, it's at the point now that I am experimenting with not even putting weapons in the arms. Or if I do, it may end up just being four small lasers so I am only wasting two tons, rather than four with mediums. Which is disappointing, because two large lasers or two ERPPCs isn't much of a punch.

[UrsusMorologus]

I lose sparky arms often because I dont care about them much, just 2x ML and I have another set, more important to protect the STs and the XL

Some of the others, losing the laser arm means losing half your damage potential

[Shell Game]

Sparky is extremely XL engine friendly as long as the arms are on. I usually use my large lasers in the side torsos and mediums in the arms. Great survivability this way.

[LT. HARDCASE]

If you're losing the arms first, you're doing it right.

I don't find that I lose arms on the Sparky any more often than I do on the 3M or 1N.

[mogs01gt]

Griffins are suppose to lose their arms first... Im not sure what the issue is.

[Voq]

Where I can identify with him on this issue is that it feels more significant in the Sparky.
I don't think I lose them more often, but I feel it when I do.

My other Griffins I have my shield arm, and I can make good use of that to minimize the likelihood of losing the right. In the Sparky they're both fairly valuable and it hurts the damage output to lose em.
They feel a little bit more like my Cat ears.

[mogs01gt]

Voq, on 19 January 2015 - 10:24 AM, said:

Where I can identify with him on this issue is that it feels more significant in the Sparky.
I don't think I lose them more often, but I feel it when I do.

My other Griffins I have my shield arm, and I can make good use of that to minimize the likelihood of losing the right. In the Sparky they're both fairly valuable and it hurts the damage output to lose em.
They feel a little bit more like my Cat ears.

You simply notice them more since you have hardpoints in the left arm.

[Voq]

mogs01gt, on 19 January 2015 - 10:41 AM, said:

You simply notice them more since you have hardpoints in the left arm.

That's precisely what I said.

[mogs01gt]

Voq, on 19 January 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:

That's precisely what I said.

You did not precisely type that....

[Devil Fox]

Comparing the two... the surface area of Sparky arms is much larger because it seems to be wider, and also have a cover over the back of the fist. Personally Sparky was a good mech, but bad laser HSR for latency has made it slip it's spot in my line up for more ERPPC based medium builds.

[Voq]

mogs01gt, on 19 January 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

You did not precisely type that....

My entire reply says precisely that, but allow me to quote myself and walk you through it...
"Where I can identify with him on this issue is that it feels more significant in the Sparky.
I don't think I lose them more often, but I feel it when I do."

I am pointing out in line one that it is a matter of perception.
Then in line 2 I explicitly state that they are not destroyed more often, and again reiterate it's a matter of perception.

Am I adequately clear?

[mogs01gt]

Voq, on 20 January 2015 - 01:29 PM, said:

My entire reply says precisely that, but allow me to quote myself and walk you through it...
"Where I can identify with him on this issue is that it feels more significant in the Sparky.
I don't think I lose them more often, but I feel it when I do."

I am pointing out in line one that it is a matter of perception.
Then in line 2 I explicitly state that they are not destroyed more often, and again reiterate it's a matter of perception.

Am I adequately clear?

You were vague..Deal with it.

[Voq]

Lol. I believe the issue is your reading comprehension. I will deal with that.

[Koniving]

Voq, on 19 January 2015 - 10:24 AM, said:

Where I can identify with him on this issue is that it feels more significant in the Sparky.
I don't think I lose them more often, but I feel it when I do.

My other Griffins I have my shield arm, and I can make good use of that to minimize the likelihood of losing the right. In the Sparky they're both fairly valuable and it hurts the damage output to lose em.
They feel a little bit more like my Cat ears.

mogs01gt, on 19 January 2015 - 10:41 AM, said:

You simply notice them more since you have hardpoints in the left arm.

The loss of something important (functional arms with weapons) on one unit where they matter are noticed far more than on similar units where the arms do not matter, leading to a confirmation bias (where you will repeatedly notice it and remember it simply because it matters).

That said, I only really notice losing an arm when it's my right arm. But I don't own a Sparky. Just the other Griffins.

[mogs01gt]

Voq, on 21 January 2015 - 04:03 PM, said:

Lol. I believe the issue is your reading comprehension. I will deal with that.

No you are still wrong.

Voq, on 19 January 2015 - 10:24 AM, said:

Where I can identify with him on this issue is that it feels more significant in the Sparky.
I don't think I lose them more often, but I feel it when I do.

This is what you typed. In no way shape or form did you reference hard points. You did not type any specifics for the "feeling" you were getting..That is the definition of being vague.

You paid for an overpriced mech that totally changes the game play philosophy of a mech..Deal with it.

Edited by mogs01gt, 22 January 2015 - 05:37 AM.

[eFTy]

What do you think he meant when he said the arms are valuable and they feel liek the Cat's ears? That he misses the paintjob? Stop clogging the thread with your trolling.

And no, the Sparky's not overpriced. It just plays differently to the rest of the Griffins, but that's not a bad thing. I have 1.64 KDR in it and I barely just Elited it a week ago.

Edited by eFTy, 22 January 2015 - 08:05 AM.

[LT. HARDCASE]

Overpriced? Sparky is the closest mech we have to a laser vomit Stormcrow. It's that good. I mean....

2x LPL, 4x ML
2x ERLL 4x MPL
2x ERLL 4x ML

...are all tremendous builds.

[eFTy]

Don't forget 2x PPC & 4ML + jump jets. LOTS of jump jets.

[Voq]

Kevjack, on 22 January 2015 - 05:03 PM, said:

Overpriced? Sparky is the closest mech we have to a laser vomit Stormcrow. It's that good. I mean....

2x LPL, 4x ML
2x ERLL 4x MPL
2x ERLL 4x ML

...are all tremendous builds.

I am in a agreement. I've had enormous success with the Sparky.
Besides the build, they're superbly nimble with pretty solid hitboxes. I tend to be far more durable than I would expect.

Sparky is a big money maker for me.