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[Bishop Steiner]

Kind of like a combo of the Hero and Champion ideas.

Get the lovely 30% Cbill bonus, but no special hardpoints and geometry. Just literally pick and choose from every available Chassis, and get your favorite mechs with Cbill boosts.

Fan of the HBK-4J, but don't like the GridIron (and like me, find Champions to be pointless)?
Don't care for the Boars Head, but want to get a bonus from your AS7-RS or D-DC instead?

TBH, I don't like a lot of the Heroes. I'm fortunate, that my Favorite Mech, the HBK-4G is also my Founder's Mech. But what about for the people like Burktross who love the 4G, and want to get premium results. Why should he have to drive a GridIron? Why not just a HBK-4G that you can paint however you want, that just earns you that same 30% Cbill bonus?

And best part, is it doesn't invalidate Heroes, because they still have their unique paint and hardpoints, and the Package Mech still get their geometry and package goodies.

Obviously, these would still be MC only, like Champions and Heroes. The Stock HBK-4G, for instance, is 1480 MC. The Champion HBK-4P is 1800 MC. A GridIron? 3750 MC. Considering it would be a Bonestock HBK-4G, needing to upgrade to DHS, Endo, etc, would 2000 MC be out of line?

What do you think, as a concept, and what ideas do you have for price points compared to existing options?


I'm sure that people would LOVE to have FS9-A, or TDR-5SS that they could get 30% cbill boosts on in CW. I'd buy Premium Versions of the VND-1AA, UM-R60, HBK-4J, CN9-D, ENF-4R and the CPLT-K2 pretty much guaranteed.

Seems like it would be one of the easiest and quickest revenue streams PGI could add, wouldn't it?

http://strawpoll.me/4427469/r

thx Burk!

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 22 May 2015 - 05:16 PM.

[FupDup]

Just make the "hero token" cost the same as a hero mech of the same tonnage. Bam, no revenue lost.

Also, an option for the 30% XP boost of Champions ("champion token") for the same price as a champ of that weight would be kewl as well.

[Xetelian]

I want a 30% cbill boosted Direwolf but I don't want to pay 55$ for 3 of them when I only want 1 and already have 4 DWFs.

Not having a cheaper way to get the boost is silly.

[AlphaToaster]

I'll expand on Fup's comment, and say the hero or champion token is a cockpit hanging item that grants the hero or champ bonus to a non-hero/non-champ mech.

I can't see PGI doing this though, as it would hurt sales. Why buy a hero for MC when you can turn your favorite mech into one? Why buy 2 heroes when you can buy 1 token and just move it to your other mech?

Perhaps the token would have to be more expensive than the highest cost hero in any given weight class for it to be worth it to PGI.

[Bishop Steiner]

Xetelian, on 22 May 2015 - 02:11 PM, said:

I want a 30% cbill boosted Direwolf but I don't want to pay 55$ for 3 of them when I only want 1 and already have 4 DWFs.

Not having a cheaper way to get the boost is silly.

think it would be nice if you wanted one to get boosted beside the DWF-Prime, also

[The Mechromancer]

I've wanted a way to "hero-ize" a mech forever!

[Bishop Steiner]

AlphaToaster, on 22 May 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

I'll expand on Fup's comment, and say the hero or champion token is a cockpit hanging item that grants the hero or champ bonus to a non-hero/non-champ mech.

I can't see PGI doing this though, as it would hurt sales. Why buy a hero for MC when you can turn your favorite mech into one? Why buy 2 heroes when you can buy 1 token and just move it to your other mech?

Perhaps the token would have to be more expensive than the highest cost hero in any given weight class for it to be worth it to PGI.

I don't see that working, unless the token was locked to a chassis. Wouldn't generate revenues the same as premium versions of the chassis, IMO. Which is why the token Idea doesn't really work, IMO. Because the only way to see them offered is if PGI saw serious profit potential.

[Xetelian]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

think it would be nice if you wanted one to get boosted beside the DWF-Prime, also

I'd love a boosted W or S rather than Prime.

They really need to start marketing some boosted clan mechs, the money is waiting to be spent.

[Ultimax]

I'm OK with it as a concept personally, I believe Russ gave a pretty solid "no" to this without even batting an eye in one of the town halls though.


I can't fathom why, as they seem to have almost stopped creating hero mechs anyway and keep giving us CBill variants in packs whether or not it's the variant that suits the buyer the most.

[Bishop Steiner]

Xetelian, on 22 May 2015 - 02:11 PM, said:

I want a 30% cbill boosted Direwolf but I don't want to pay 55$ for 3 of them when I only want 1 and already have 4 DWFs.

Not having a cheaper way to get the boost is silly.

and TBH, most people buy packs for all the preorder goodies, as much as, or often instead of the Cbill variants...because too often the boosted variant is one of the worst models.

Ultimatum X, on 22 May 2015 - 02:18 PM, said:

I'm OK with it as a concept personally, I believe Russ gave a pretty solid "no" to this without even batting an eye in one of the town halls though.


I can't fathom why, as they seem to have almost stopped creating hero mechs anyway and keep giving us CBill variants in packs whether or not it's the variant that suits the buyer the most.

so, like the Urbanmech, ti becomes incumbent upon us, the consumer, to make Russ "get it".

[Burktross]

Yes, yes, yes, and yes! I would gladly splurge MC for my favorite mechs.

[Ultimax]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

so, like the Urbanmech, ti becomes incumbent upon us, the consumer, to make Russ "get it".

I'm still waiting for him to "get it" and let me spend more money on Invasion mechs I spent money on by letting me change their camouflage.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 22 May 2015 - 02:21 PM.

[MikeBend]

I dont care about cbill boost, can we please have red color double seed tweak bonus?

[Wintersdark]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2015 - 02:17 PM, said:

I don't see that working, unless the token was locked to a chassis. Wouldn't generate revenues the same as premium versions of the chassis, IMO. Which is why the token Idea doesn't really work, IMO. Because the only way to see them offered is if PGI saw serious profit potential.

This.

I would happily pay Hero Mech prices to upgrade a current mech to having a cbill bonus.

In fact, if this where an option? I'd seriously buy new versions of my Prime variants (where I like the Prime variants, anyways) and upgrade that one, because:

1) I don't care about the custom geometry; they're VERY similar
2) I really, REALLY hate the locked camo patterns on (I) Clan mechs - they're 2 channel, and they heavily tint the secondary color making many color options simply not work.

But yes, I'd happily pay a decent price to upgrade a chassis I already own permanently to being a cbill bonus chassis.

[ShinobiHunter]

I would pay Boars Head price to get a 30% cbill boost on my Wolverine 7k.

[1453 R]

MikeBend, on 22 May 2015 - 02:21 PM, said:

I dont care about cbill boost, can we please have red color double seed tweak bonus?

It took me, like, two solid minutes to figure out that this meant "Da red wunz go fasta!"

You know you dun goofed when Orkz are easier to understand than you are

Anyways.

Insofar as 'boosted chassis' go, I would be...reticent. I already have most of my favorite chassis, buying spares with bonuses would reek of cheese to me. What would be excellent, and what the community has wanted forever, is a one-time unlock per specific 'Mech for whatever MC cost (usually held to be Hero cost for that weight, or Hero+10% or whatever works financially) to apply a Hero bonus to it. Buy the regular 'Mech, then flip the Hero switch and get your billz.

I imagine Russ is against it mostly because he figures it'd potentially short-circuit premium time purchases if people could get Hero cash flow on anything they liked but that's a hilariously dumb reason not to offer the incentive because anyone hardcore enough to Herotize a standard 'Mech is going to either be buying PT as well anyways, or be swimming in so much pack-preorder PT that they don't need to buy PT either way. I can't see it as anything but a win for Piranha.

For that matter, offer C-billable versions of the Hero 'Mechs in the store, save without their special camouflages or Hero bonus, so as to short-circuit the longstanding grumbles of Pee Two Doubleyou connected with Heroes. Want the awesome* paint scheme and Hero bonus? Buy the Hero! Just want the funky hardpoints/engine/whatever differences? Buy the standard design.

Not that there's the remotest chance in hell Piranha's going to be doing that last one because it'd massively undercut their own Hero sales, but wouldn't it be nice...

[Burktross]

Bishop, perhaps a pole is in order?
http://strawpoll.me/4427469

[CocoaJin]

I would likely do that for some of my favorites. I especially like the token idea, but it should be perma-locked token that can't be removed...well may be until you sell the mech.

It's a lose of revenue for PGI if we can swap the token out like a module.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Id rather have a Premium Module, which takes up its own slot on the mech, basically, its a module bought for $30 MC that you apply to w/e mech you want and it becomes a premium. It would be immovable upon placement but it would allow US to choose which mech we want as our premium/heros.

Suggested a similar thing on AW forums, apparently it is to much P2W?

[Mister Blastman]

No.

I'm sick of 'mechs. I want a complete game.