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[The Massive]

ECM. Or the skull head. Or coz I just want to.

[Brody319]

Maccasimus, on 09 December 2014 - 07:33 PM, said:

ECM. Or the skull head. Or coz I just want to.

I got it. Lets make a Hero King Crab with a skull on the top, and ECM.

Bury and burn the Atlas's corpse!

[Mobile Ordnance Platform]

Eldagore, on 09 December 2014 - 07:23 PM, said:

You SHOULD NOT be leading the charge, because everyone and their pen pal will see you from 2500M and shoot at you. You need to be the 2spooky4u Atlas, follow your team, and then EMERGE LIKE A CHAMPION at the right moment, and wreck the enemy that is obviously, completely caught off guard by your sudden emergence and scrambling to aim at you to return fire while simultaneously turning to flee from you horror inducing facewrecz smash powah.

this is pure gold

i always make the mistake of trying to lead the charge, like i feel expected to go out in front by pub teammates they look at u in your Atlas and wait for u to lumber out and get destroyed giving them time to flank or peek aboo snipes
and then i hate the Atlas

but those moments of just emerging at the right time in a Atlas out of nowhere, u can literally feel the enemies horror as u smash faces, those moments make it totally worth it

[Johnny Z]

Big Grimm, on 09 December 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

I have all the atli, and love the mech, but as it stands the KC has just made them obsolete. Unless the atlas gets some serious armour buff quirks it is now useless. I must say I dont get it. They never gave the atlas many weapon slots, they limited the DW's torso twist, they did this so not to make these mechs op, they seemed to have thrown all this out of the window with the KC, giving it lots of weapons slots, and giving it a good torso twist. Why???

The Atlas may always be a chalenge against the other 100 tonners but it does have the ability to wait behind cover and step out when the time is right and do well. Also it is likely the Atlas will be getting some kind of improvments with all the discussion going on about it.

If the Atlas becomes the ultimate walking shield with improvments then fine it has a role. Just looking at the new Man o War says it needs some armor improvments also with so many excellent assaults and heavies running around.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Flash Frame, on 09 December 2014 - 07:09 PM, said:

The reason you take an atlas is easy.

Because you LIKE the atlas.


JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE WHO CARES IF IT'S OPTIMAL... IF IT'S TOP TIER.

God I'm so tired of hearing people go on and on about how "This mech sucks because it's totally outclassed by X."

Who the flying fet cares?! Just use what you like, and quit complaining. I swear I come to these forums and all I see is bitchmoangroanwhinecryrage.... there's so little positivity here. And I mean, sure, part of that comes from all the BS PGI's pulled over 3 years... but good lord, there has to be a smidge of good cheer left in these forums right?

I actually agree. I really enjoy my Mist Lynx mech so I think they are a good mechs and play them fairly often. Intellectually I know they are somewhat subpar but that doesn't stop me from doing well in them.

[FETTY WAP]

Flash Frame, on 09 December 2014 - 07:09 PM, said:

The reason you take an atlas is easy.

Because you LIKE the atlas.


JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE WHO CARES IF IT'S OPTIMAL... IF IT'S TOP TIER.

God I'm so tired of hearing people go on and on about how "This mech sucks because it's totally outclassed by X."

Who the flying fet cares?! Just use what you like, and quit complaining. I swear I come to these forums and all I see is bitchmoangroanwhinecryrage.... there's so little positivity here. And I mean, sure, part of that comes from all the BS PGI's pulled over 3 years... but good lord, there has to be a smidge of good cheer left in these forums right?

Yeah.. people should play the game for fun, too.


Though it might be more fun when you win. But still.

[Lightfoot]

True. The Atlas needs the Gauss Rifle with no de-sync to compete. Atlas was much better with one Gauss Rifle back when the Gauss Rifle worked normally, as described in Battle Tech. Atlas can't carry just one of PGI's Sniper Rifles and compete with it. You need 2xGauss now. Good thing the King Crab carries two, right?

[kf envy]

the Atlas is fine an ware it needs to be. after all the King Crab was among a number of designs upgraded to meet the challenge of the clans. so its has to be more OP then a atlas

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/King_Crab

[luxebo]

Mawai, on 09 December 2014 - 06:00 PM, said:

I don't play assaults much. I have a couple of Atlas' and now a King Crab.

The KIng Crab I received has 6! arm mounted ballistic hard points ... 2 energy, 2 missile and an AMS. One of the other KIng crabs appears to have 2 ballistic, 4 energy and 4 missile. The frontal profile on a King Crab looks to be a bit smaller than an Atlas ... hard to say for sure since it might be lower and wider. Otherwise they start off with basically the same armor and structure.

The KIng Crab would seem to have greater choice in loadouts and more devastating loadouts.

Unless the KIng Crab hit boxes somehow make it much more vulnerable than an Atlas ... why would I ever drive one of my Atlas' over the King Crab?

(Not a troll ... I am actually curious since the King Crab at least appears to be strictly better than an Atlas ... not sure yet how it compares to a Dire Wolf though I think the DW still has the edge since 6 CUAC5 and similar builds are hard to beat ... though the King Crab can do 2xGauss + 2xERPPC for lots of PPFLD fun ... if you can get the coordination correct)

I argued of this two days before the King Crab came out and everyone told me to SHUT UP.

So uhhhhhh ggclose Atlas?

There are so so so many reasons why the Atlas needs huge buffs now in any form. But then they'd nerf the King Crab and then we'd have not a use for either mech.

I admit I like where PGI is heading in direction of the game but Atlas is literally the second worse assault, followed by ol' Awesome who needs moar buffs. Once one of the powerhouses of the game is now the punching bag.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

Edited by luxebo, 09 December 2014 - 09:12 PM.

[kf envy]

maybe you should ask for more Ver of the atlas that came during the clan invasion but it would have to been some time after CW goes live. you already have one of the clanbuster an im sure your going to get more.

Edited by kf envy, 09 December 2014 - 09:33 PM.

[Brody319]

Bringing any 100 tonner to CW is a waste of tonnage because often times you will have to bring subpar secondary mechs to fit the tonnage limit. Any IS player who brings 2 King crabs or Atlases is doing their team a huge problem. all its going to do is cause the enemy to focus fire on them, kill them, then when they are forced into their Locusts, they will get hit with an LB-X and die.

Seriously, bring some muscle to the fight. Anything other than the Glass cannons that are the 100 ton mechs. I mean most clan players will be ditching the Dashi in favor of the Warhawk once they realize they can bring 2 assaults instead of just one with 4 PPCs or Wub Lasers.

[Wolfwood592]

I still enjoy my atlas and will always do so. Would it be nice to get an armor buff? Sure. Will I drop it for my newly aquired Loyalty KGC.....no

The KGC is not at GG as everyone is complaining. It is just as easily dismembered as any other assault.

Here is an idea for everyone who thinks its OP...don't stand toe to toe with it unless your a Whale and you will be just fine.

[CocoaJin]

Hopefully CW will have matches that have costs or rewards that encourage cheaper chassises within a class. If so, maybe the Atlas would be a choice over the King?

[Mordric]

The arms are the main source of dps for the crabs, it's slow, limited in how it can be fitted, and runs hot! But it packs a hell of punch! So don't stand in front of it like a deer staring at the heading lights watching the car run its ass over. Take cover, move around behind it. It's slower then both the atlas and the dire wolf. And I think the dire still punchs harder. And the atlas can carry a better load out. Pretty sure.

[Brody319]

CocoaJin, on 09 December 2014 - 10:09 PM, said:

Hopefully CW will have matches that have costs or rewards that encourage cheaper chassises within a class. If so, maybe the Atlas would be a choice over the King?

No one is going to bring an Atlas or a King crab. They are overly ammo dependant, have bad hard point locations and are too fat. The Wubshee, Wubmaster and Stalker will all save you some tonnage, are less ammo dependent, and can generally tank better than the Atlas or King crab.

[Wolfwood592]

Brody319, on 09 December 2014 - 10:13 PM, said:

No one is going to bring an Atlas or a King crab. They are overly ammo dependant, have bad hard point locations and are too fat. The Wubshee, Wubmaster and Stalker will all save you some tonnage, are less ammo dependent, and can generally tank better than the Atlas or King crab.

My Atlas-BH is not ammo dependent at all, and even if I do take him. I can still roll with a Thunderbolt, hunback and my TDK

[Mordric]

I think the atlas is still a good mech, it's hard for me to play then a dire wolf? Or madcat, or any of the most is mechs. I think it takes more skill to handle it. because it does put out the dps, had a game the other day where I did 1200 dmg. So that proves the atlas can be a killer. You just can't jump in the middle of the fight and expect to come out unbruised.

[Brody319]

Wolfwood592, on 09 December 2014 - 10:23 PM, said:

My Atlas-BH is not ammo dependent at all, and even if I do take him. I can still roll with a Thunderbolt, hunback and my TDK

why not bring a wubshee then? Less tonnage, faster, tanks better, less of a target, big alpha, no ammo dependance at all, wubs. nothing wrong with that.

[luxebo]

It's not the KGC that is the problem. That thing is designed to be up there. It's the Atlas sucking that is the problem. It's garbage in every case now that ECM has been useless crap and the S's ultra alpha has been overcame by supermario's dual AC20 quad ASRM6s.

[aniviron]

Big Grimm, on 09 December 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

I have all the atli, and love the mech, but as it stands the KC has just made them obsolete. Unless the atlas gets some serious armour buff quirks it is now useless. I must say I dont get it. They never gave the atlas many weapon slots, they limited the DW's torso twist, they did this so not to make these mechs op, they seemed to have thrown all this out of the window with the KC, giving it lots of weapons slots, and giving it a good torso twist. Why???

The real kicker is that even with these advantages, it still got some pretty big quirks too.