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[Sonny Black]

Alex Cook, on 13 December 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

So after 10ish matches my personal best is 92 dmg in a match. The learning curve of this game is ridiculous with little to no help from tutorials.

Try Spike Brave
https://www.youtube....tNUCKmcC0Q7pKJQ

And yes the learning curve is steep. This is a thinking mans shooter, if you go charging around battlefield you will die...quickly. Give it some time.

[3xnihilo]

Welcome to the game! I found as a new player that I had to set really small goals for myself and work my way up. For instance I want to break 100 damage most of the time on a victory or something like that and then 150 or even 125. But you definitely need to learn to shake off the "wow what just happened how did I die so fast" rounds and drop into the next one. I don't know if you ever get passed getting those or not, but I definitely have not. Listen to all of the other guys on here, they give good advice and have fun!

GL HF Mechwarrior.

[luxebo]

Shatterpoint, on 13 December 2014 - 05:22 PM, said:

* With the exceptions of Dire wolf and King Crab (aka easy modes) any mech you pilot with likely be insta-killed very quickly by 1-2 mechs fire alpha strikes at you, skill/money/modules/loadouts will not change this.

* In a random pug group you are a solo player (don't let the other blue guys fool you, they're all out for themselves and will shoot through you happily to get a kill). They will not help you intentionally, they will get in your way, walk through your fire and blame you for team killing them, not give you any information, not take 0.2 sec to press 'R' and inform you of enemy positions and will make the worst possible choices at every opportunity.

* LRMS will **** up your day constantly, despite the forum posts (from LRM boat abusers usually). With the slightest delay in server response the missiles will go through the "almighty undeniable magnificence of cover" and still kill you, or at least cripple you enough for one of the multiple ECM light mechs to walk over and 1shot you with a small/medium laser

* ECM is not your friend unless it's on your own mech, that little ECM light mech (that could easily save your whole team from incoming missiles) will 99% of the time be on the other side of the map trying to solo the biggest thing it can find like a tiny gloryhound.

* Missiles and ECM tend to be an all or nothing thing, your team either has ALL of it or essentially NONE of it...learn which one you're on or die faster, if it's on the enemy team you likely die anyway in a pug..the team with the LRMS has the biggest advantage in 90% of matches.

* If you're the social sort find some people to drop with and don't pug, it leads to fear, hatred and all that yoda stuff.

Completely disagreed here (except the last bullet point). DW and KGC while they are better off as boaty type mechs they are easily countered by other mechs (though I will admit that KGC took over most of what the Atlas was meant to do.

LRMs are really easy to counter in group que, though they are a pug player's nightmare (I really hate getting locked down and killed as if you are narced/tagged it's a death sentence for a slower mech),

ECM is very niche and is not much of a deal-breaker anymore, if any on your team enjoy it but overall it's too easy to counter and half the time I simply turn it off to prevent people from getting the rewards/spotting me.

Pugs are pugs, most of them come from other games that ain't much like this and there are a rare bit like myself (sometimes) that can survive here and there.

And therefore tomorrow I'm heading to see how CW is like personally once my internet is a bit more stable. It's coming back and my phone lines are a bit stronger now (no random dcing from the phone).

And to op, I actually admit that once in a good while I do sub-100 damage and that is usually cause I'm drunk, sleepy, or doing stupid things. Find those stupid things (or at least identify what may be the problem).

Edited by luxebo, 13 December 2014 - 06:56 PM.

[dragnier1]

Trolzylulzy, on 13 December 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

5. Keep playing with the trials, only in the weight class that you are most comfortable with.

That might be hard for some. In my case it took me a few hundred matches (yeah, it's that bad) to figure out my "preferred" weight class.

[Alaskan Nobody]

dragnier1, on 13 December 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

That might be hard for some. In my case it took me a few hundred matches (yeah, it's that bad) to figure out my "preferred" weight class.

Even then it can depend on the trials/individual mechs.

I could not stand using the (C) Stalker (XL on a Stalker?!)
Neither could I stand using any of the Victors (got to use the trial one before (C) came out) until I had my own and got them through Basics.

In fact - the trial mech I used most for my early days were Cataphracts and Awesome - but I tend toward driving Mediums for my owned chassis.

[Alex Cook]

OK where is all the **** that is suppose to be in my cockpit? I spectated someone and they have like a map and ****? I don't even get a visual distinction to tell enemy from team other than who is shooting at me...

[Alaskan Nobody]

Alex Cook, on 13 December 2014 - 10:22 PM, said:

OK where is all the **** that is suppose to be in my cockpit? I spectated someone and they have like a map and ****? I don't even get a visual distinction to tell enemy from team other than who is shooting at me...

A known bug

Powering down and back up solves it sometimes
Other times - rapidly hitting ESC (to pull up that menu and close it again)

[Remarius]

I never even saw what killed me in my first two matches as I blundered around.... you're doing fine.

Lots of brilliant advice above but on the start page there's a button to launch into the test maps. Sit down with a mug of coffee or tea and just spend time learning the maps and test firing your weapons to work out how each map effects your heat and how far you can push each mech. Yes you will make mistakes but as a few people have said just try to learn from them and improve steadily.

Other than that... Welcome to MWO.

[Lucky Noob]

Alex Cook, on 13 December 2014 - 10:22 PM, said:

OK where is all the **** that is suppose to be in my cockpit? I spectated someone and they have like a map and ****? I don't even get a visual distinction to tell enemy from team other than who is shooting at me...

Okay, if you see your Mech outside , youre in 3PV , there is no Map, Hit F4 for Cocpit Fiew.
Maybe thats what you need.

and I am Glad to see you back here, seems you have the Guts to be an Mechwarrior.

No Matter what Question, we will help.

Have fun

[Alex Cook]

I see nothing in my cockpit but the windows, I just hear all the beeps and whoops. I'm done, games are suppose to be fun and this is anything but. Bye

[Shatterpoint]

@luxebo and everyone in general

New players tend to pug, if they're not pugging then someone with group connections got them into the game and likely into the groups they run with (Meaning they don't make these posts).

When you give new players the premade group POV you're just lying to their faces, they're never going to drop into a well organized team with set roles and plans. They're going to drop into a clust3r7uck where they're solo players assigned to a group that isn't really a group. And they get consistently screwed over until they quit the game for something that doesn't stress them out.

By giving new guys the group perspective you're giving them unrealistic ideas about the game, better off being honest straight up.

If you're a new guy without a premade voice coordinated group...you're boned AT LEAST 50%-70% of the time, the wins and losses are nothing to do with you, they're entirely down to the vets who drop on alt accounts in a match and wreck the whole enemy team...or more commonly the team with most LRM/ECM wins by default.

Pug and hate/enjoy the game for what it is like I do or group drop ASAP like a lot of others do and vanish into the CW/lore jerkfest.

[Unnatural Growth]

Well the OP lasted a day...



Maybe someday we'll get a good game tutorial up and running, and more new players will stay. Hopefully before the game goes to steam, and a large batch of new players gets burned out on it fast, and ignore the game going forward.

[Alex Cook]

How will a tutorial fix the fact that I have reinstalled twice and I still have NOTHING in my cockpit? But go ahead and clapfor me if you wanna cause I was doing between 60-150 dmg a match with no map or any indication of who was on my team other than who wasn't shooting at me...

[juxstapo]

Darrious Quinn, on 13 December 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

Now I'm not trolling you here, I'm being dead serious. Everyone here from the Founding Beta players like myself to the brand new rookies, we all came in with, in some degree, the same mentality of, "I know Battletech from playing the _____ games, I'll be awesome at it!"

Thiiiiiiis, URRRGH this!

They've all said it, and I'll say it again: Don't give up. As another beta vet I was all happy hunky dory loving this game, then I tried to get my friends interested in it and seeing it from their perspective, zomg you are co-rect, it is not friendly to the new players.
It is a bit better though, with trial mechs and such.
However, aside from the requisite stains on humanity that you seem to find everywhere, there are scads of good, generally mature folk on here. (Such as this thread, for example).

....it just hit me I am fanboying without adding anything helpful... PM me if you'd like a team to practice with sometime, the Corsairs are super noob friendly. (and by "practice" I mean "goof off and giggle over TeamSpeak while quoting Monty Python and such")

Ohyah! If you've got a headset and/or speakers and a mic, Teamspeak and some buddies make this game almost tolerable.

(HAH! Read the second page after I posted). Right Shift + F11 will turn the HUD back on.
EDIT EDIT: Alt+Tabbing out and back in might do it if its' the HUD bug.

Edited by juxstapo, 14 December 2014 - 07:49 AM.

[nungunz]

Alex Cook, on 14 December 2014 - 07:36 AM, said:

How will a tutorial fix the fact that I have reinstalled twice and I still have NOTHING in my cockpit? But go ahead and clapfor me if you wanna cause I was doing between 60-150 dmg a match with no map or any indication of who was on my team other than who wasn't shooting at me...

That is super weird. Take a bunch of screenshots and send them into support@mwomercs.com . Hopefully they'll be able to help isolate the issue!

Good luck and good hunting!

P.S. Would you mind posting the screenshots here as well? I'm curious to see this as I haven't heard of this issue before.

[mailin]

Welcome to MWO! I had the HUD bug maybe a year ago and it was very frustrating. Stay with it, send a support ticket and it *will* get figured out at some point.

As far as getting easier, it does get easier once you can try different weapons and modules. Also, once you get some skills in your mech they become much more manageable (cockpit time doesn't hurt here either).

Good luck, hope you get your HUD issues figured out.

[JC Daxion]

Alex Cook, on 14 December 2014 - 07:36 AM, said:

How will a tutorial fix the fact that I have reinstalled twice and I still have NOTHING in my cockpit? But go ahead and clapfor me if you wanna cause I was doing between 60-150 dmg a match with no map or any indication of who was on my team other than who wasn't shooting at me...

did you run the Repair tool? I haven't had this bug in well over a year. Send support a ticket, with your DX diag.. Though perhaps move on.. if you are this frustrated after a single day it might not be the game for you... I have almost 4k matches, and i'm still learning... that is getting close to 2 years of playing..


@edit for right number of matches.. didn't think it was that high...

Edited by JC Daxion, 15 December 2014 - 08:21 PM.

[mailin]

+16K drops over two years, and I'm still learning too. This game is tough to get good at, but if you can get your HUD issue figured out it really is a LOT of fun.

[Nightmare1]

Your best bet is to join a Unit or get with a veteran pilot for some drop training. Most Units will offer training and are typically pretty friendly towards new players.

That being said, there is a Mentorship System in the works that should prove much more helpful than the old tutorials.

Also, watching player videos is a great way to learn the ropes. Feel free to check out some of mine; I have several that are excellent examples of Mech movement and control, weapons, Mech building, etc. Just check out my profile and follow the Twitch and YouTube links from there.

[IraqiWalker]

Alex Cook, on 14 December 2014 - 07:36 AM, said:

How will a tutorial fix the fact that I have reinstalled twice and I still have NOTHING in my cockpit? But go ahead and clapfor me if you wanna cause I was doing between 60-150 dmg a match with no map or any indication of who was on my team other than who wasn't shooting at me...

Are you playing in third person?

If so, I would highly recommend switching back to first person (F4), and going into the options menu to disable starting in 3rd person view.