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[CyclonerM]

xDisturbedx, on 31 December 2014 - 03:52 AM, said:

Rather than do something logical, like joining a group with an attack lane at the enemy you wish to attack,

This.

However, i think that now they actually want to attack us and they have forgotten their "burning desire" to attack CJF..

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Ax2Grind, on 31 December 2014 - 02:25 AM, said:

Thanks for the good words.

Well, strategically for us it wasn't a distraction. We had already wrapped up our IS world, and were getting nothing but pug matches that were less than thrilling when they did try to defend it. What it became at that point was an excellent way to get a fast match against a tougher enemy.

Why is skirmishing and using an attack lane that PGI gave us for this game mode lame? Technically, no cease fire exists. It is an abstract concept between a few groups. Despite it being abstract and technically non-binding, MS has given the cease fire a serious nod for the most part and have even gone so far as to post to announce and communicate about any attacks, such as the proposal to Wolf to get the attack lane moved (all just a theory of course, since PGI programming might not grant us the lane we imagine). I'd say that kind of communication is the opposite of lame. But if you get right to the bottom of what people are flipping out about, this game mode allows for an attack on that lane, it's part of the game, and if a group decides to use it it is neither trolling or disrespectful. It's playing the game. I can certainly respect that you would like the border to remain quiet. It's not like a war on Wolf was declared by CGB. This is a border skirmish.

I am not sure if there is any better of a controlled environment either for these battles. Seems to me it's a perfect vehicle for it. If Wolf and Bear get their IS attack lane attacks maxed, then why not enjoy a border skirmish where we get to hone our tactics and earn some good CW money?

And not that it matters but for the others that think "fun" is about saving face..I posted this was for fun before the attacks began.

Because was it not CW and GB that frowned upon CJF doing the same thing with Buttehold?

Chugga chugga woo woo

[TKSax]

DV McKenna, on 31 December 2014 - 05:08 AM, said:

Because was it not CW and GB that frowned upon CJF doing the same thing with Buttehold?

Chugga chugga woo woo

I don't know about the rest of CGB, but as far a I know CGBI could have cared less what JF was doing with Wolf. and cetinaly no frowning from me .

[Gyrok]

TKSax, on 31 December 2014 - 05:58 AM, said:

I don't know about the rest of CGB, but as far a I know CGBI could have cared less what JF was doing with Wolf. and cetinaly no frowning from me .

MS openly denounced it as poor behavior.

[w00tzor]

Gyrok, on 31 December 2014 - 06:00 AM, said:

MS openly denounced it as poor behavior.

But at least we took Butte Hold on our first attack with just one premade. They failed with several premades taking one planet.

Chugga chugga chugga!

[Naglinator]

[Ax2Grind]

Gyrok, on 31 December 2014 - 06:00 AM, said:

MS openly denounced it as poor behavior.

Did we? I don't recall ever denouncing it and I don't recall any of the MS leadership, or CGB in general denouncing it. Are you making things up again Gyrok?

xDisturbedx, on 31 December 2014 - 03:52 AM, said:

Right. It's for, "fun". It's defiantly not to satisfy your egos. You're defiantly doing this in the mostly classy way possible, and not at all like a spoiled 6 year old. Bottom line is this, you asked Clan Wolf to let you through to the Falcons, we said no. You then said, like a spoiled child, to bad I`m going to do what I want anyway and you can`t stop me. Rather than do something logical, like joining a group with an attack lane at the enemy you wish to attack, you now come to the forum to try to justify your foolish and selfish actions, claiming to have the best interest of the community at heart. YOU are everything that is wrong with this game, and you are totally transparent to any of us with half a neuron still functional.

Your living up to your name there. No...nothing so dark, just some good ole fashioned honesty and good feelings. Maybe this is RP? Not that I don't find enjoyment out of you calling me "everything that is wrong with this game", but your reasons seem a little slim.

CyclonerM, on 31 December 2014 - 04:04 AM, said:

This.

However, i think that now they actually want to attack us and they have forgotten their "burning desire" to attack CJF..

Well, if you'd read Rex's or my latest posts you would know this has nothing to do with an attack lane to JF. If you want to keep believing that go for it, but the truth...it will set you free!

Edited by Ax2Grind, 31 December 2014 - 06:43 AM.

[Mordin Ashe]

I am wondering, what if the truce between CW and Steiner will last long enough for CGB to get far ahead and much closer to Tera, and then poor attack algorithm will force CGB to the left to attack Steiner, effectively blocking CWs chance to progress Tera-wards?
Now that would be something to argue about in this topic...

[Commander A9]

Do we even have a cease-fire anymore?

[Gyrok]

Mordin Ashe, on 31 December 2014 - 06:48 AM, said:

I am wondering, what if the truce between CW and Steiner will last long enough for CGB to get far ahead and much closer to Tera, and then poor attack algorithm will force CGB to the left to attack Steiner, effectively blocking CWs chance to progress Tera-wards?
Now that would be something to argue about in this topic...

No worries there...if MS hold up their 1 week contract routine, we will have taken 7-8 worlds from Steiner by the time they come back from Davion...

If they come back at all...

Commander A9, on 31 December 2014 - 06:50 AM, said:

Do we even have a cease-fire anymore?

Not when the new year rings in...

[Nick86]

Joanna Conners, on 16 December 2014 - 11:17 AM, said:

Rex,

First, the large (and even small) units of Wolf will never be able to reign in pugs. Neither will Ghost Bear. Second, CWI has more than "boys" in it. You don't need to use exclusive language. Plenty of women play this game. Maybe none in Ghost Bear? But it's silly and patronizing. I've given Delta Galaxy a hard time for it too.

She's got a point... and yes there are girls in Ghost Bear; fantastic team players too.

Edited by Nick86, 31 December 2014 - 07:00 AM.

[operatorZ]

hybrid black, on 30 December 2014 - 10:39 PM, said:

This will be the last thing i say to you or all of wolf since you are not worth the time anymore, and il let in game show everything.

enjoy taking no new planets for the next few months since you have to spend all your time defending us

Bye!

[operatorZ]

Noesis, on 30 December 2014 - 11:35 PM, said:

Good grief ....I do have to sleep ... and PGI wont allow crawl bots.


The above should tie you over for now. It is weighty enough an issue not to ignore ..... oh wait ......

So the Wolf race to terra or any planetary aquisition has been stalled due to the more interesting and fun battles now occuring on the CGB border. Various people seem happy about this including Clan Wolf who seem to be equally enjoying the events, but maybe only expressing it in some form of some Tea baging rhetoric. Cute, rather crude and childish for my tastes but the idea of tea being in there somewhere might suggest the possibility for refinement. Merc units being more professional and gentlemanly about it all.

Though of course Clan Wolf are only capable of doing these things as they don't have to worry about any Steiner aggression. And of course it generally being easier to defend planets.

Meanwhile other Clans continue their race to Terra despite not forming pacts with the IS.

Seems to be very interesting morning headlines.

I might offer further insight and analysis after I have had some glorious tea and toast.

You do know that in this thread you have gone from trying to start sh*t to freely admitting that your just a "Troll" propagandist, to offering your services in propaganda to us, to saying you were just roleplaying, to back to being a troll right? Maybe you should reread all of your posts ...it seems like you have a hard time keeping your "RP" up. I guess practice makes perfect huh?

Further more, you do realize that RP or not, if you act juvenile you will get treated like a juvenile .....I mean you have admitted your sole purpose is to antagonize people ..(sorry, propaganda and psychological warfare )..but yet you want us to consider your words like your a valued member of the community...

your just a troll..... that's all you are...regardless of what RP you poorly hide behind...that's all you'll ever be...tea or no tea

[Noesis]

operatorZ, on 31 December 2014 - 07:17 AM, said:

You do know that in this thread you have gone from trying to start sh*t to freely admitting that your just a "Troll" propagandist, to offering your services in propaganda to us, to saying you were just roleplaying, to back to being a troll right? Maybe you should reread all of your posts ...it seems like you have a hard time keeping your "RP" up. I guess practice makes perfect huh?

Further more, you do realize that RP or not, if you act juvenile you will get treated like a juvenile .....I mean you have admitted your sole purpose is to antagonize people ..(sorry, propaganda and psychological warfare )..but yet you want us to consider your words like your a valued member of the community...

your just a troll..... that's all you are...regardless of what RP you poorly hide behind...that's all you'll ever be...tea or no tea

No you have been saying I have been trolling. If you are unable to see that propoganda is an element to warfare then I can see why perhaps the Wolves are not on the fast road to Terra and all you want to do is ridicule players as opposed to discussing the points and ideas associated with these events. But this in itself is classic propoganda so it is interesting that you call me childish but are only capable of the basic forms of propoganda to do with character assasination.

For which the only thing you offer are things I have already given you anyhow and have in no way hidden any of this but in fact offered them up and in advance that something members of the Clan Wolf community failed to recognise, the fact that you are ignorant of who the Dark Born were is perhaps only testimony to your lack of ability to understand other cultures and their aims or sit down and have a cup of tea with them.

There is also no creativity to your propoganda process as you only use the material I have given you as a basis for your efforts. At least I suppose you are learning however. I won't charge you for the education as other members of CW did acknowledge the efforts made where impressive and at least capable of recognising the effort associated here. This I suppose helping to support the idea of the fractured Wolf community as you seem to present a lot of mixed messages and haven't really got your act together yet with what you collectively stand for. This also more evident with being Steiners pet and you now flip flopping with allegiances and aims.

PRO TIP however: If you want to win the hearts and minds of people you use ideas as opposed to attacking individuals. Especially ghosts who have been employed for these very purposes. Allegiances and events are temporary, but "ideas" they can stand the test of time if executed well. If Clan Wolf managed to rally under a collective idea you might not be so fractured and then have more cohesive aims. And interestingly maybe having this "common foe" presenting itself here has helped to rally Wolf efforts. So perhaps that is another thing you can thank me for?

Interestingly also I seem to have helped correct your alliances with the IS and steiner that you now are breaking up with. So maybe my efforts have also helped you to see the error of your ways as Clansmen. You can thank me again later for actively providing this service to the Clan Wolf community that your leaders seemed incapable of helping you with.

Also Clan Wolf now have some fun and challanging skirmishes ahead of them as a result of the varoius Merc groups presenting more interesting challanges for them. This helping to raise the training levels for Clan Wolf so that they no longer feel they need to make alliances with the IS and are then capable of holding their own as a equal contributing member to Operation revival interests and their allied concerns with other Clans.

So you see that Clan Wolf do in fact have a lot to thank myself for. If you could work with ideas and the bigger picture interests then you'd also be able to see these things for yourself. Again if you want further schooling on how to apply these methodologies I have already left the contact details on our operational services brochure where you can choose to become more refined in the art of psychological warfare as opposed to more basic character assasination attempts with no substantive material.

Being able to start to introduce aims and ideas into your propoganda rhetoric will then demonstate a better class of diplomacy and PR that I would make posting contributions much more valuable to the Clan wolf efforts. This now more evident to me with your lack of appreciation for tea as you see it as inconsequential. Hmmm ..... maybe I should consider extra services with offering a finishing school for poet warriors, something to consider, perhaps start a class to do with the appreciation of William Blake?

Edited by Noesis, 31 December 2014 - 08:21 AM.

[Naglinator]

Meh, conflict makes us stronger. Even if its just internal wolf bickering. Can't expect the lower castes to understand that though

[Darsy]

[redlance]

w00tzor, on 31 December 2014 - 06:19 AM, said:

But at least we took Butte Hold on our first attack with just one premade. They failed with several premades taking one planet. Chugga chugga chugga!

simply pathetic.

[ApolloKaras]

w00tzor, on 31 December 2014 - 06:19 AM, said:

But at least we took Butte Hold on our first attack with just one premade. They failed with several premades taking one planet.

Chugga chugga chugga!

CW is all about the numbers. They rallied all the defenses good games were had. As far as I know we did not lose a match on that planet.

Edit I should clarify, we as in MS

Edited by Saxie, 31 December 2014 - 10:31 AM.

[operatorZ]

Noesis, on 31 December 2014 - 07:59 AM, said:

..words...

I know its your job and all but jeez...lay off the tea..I think your over caffeinated. Look at all the work you put in writing up all this "propaganda" , I'll be the first to admit, its impressive the way you really commit to something; but your hopelessly out of your league...you have all ready been labeled correctly by many people...and its not "character assassination" if its true. You are one of the most dedicated trolls I've ever met, which is saying a lot.

And BTW keep typing, because I don't put any thought into this response at all, none, I just call you like you are and no further thought is needed, so keep typing, I enjoy the mental calisthenics your trying so desperately to perform. Ill keep replying the same. ...

[Kain Demos]

operatorZ, on 31 December 2014 - 10:51 AM, said:

I know its your job and all but jeez...lay off the tea..I think your over caffeinated. Look at all the work you put in writing up all this "propaganda" , I'll be the first to admit, its impressive the way you really commit to something; but your hopelessly out of your league...you have all ready been labeled correctly by many people...and its not "character assassination" if its true. You are one of the most dedicated trolls I've ever met, which is saying a lot.

And BTW keep typing, because I don't put any thought into this response at all, none, I just call you like you are and no further thought is needed, so keep typing, I enjoy the mental calisthenics your trying so desperately to perform. Ill keep replying the same. ...

NOt only that, it seems to be a large amount of effort for a unit that looks like is only him.