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#10961 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 05:02 AM

nightshade24, read above. thx.

#10962 Thaar

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 05:32 AM

The question is not how much but when? :lol:

#10963 Kdogg788

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 06:05 AM

Preorder page goes up by Monday. There was a what 2 month-ish delay from the announcement to the release of the Urban? Could be more but my memory is awful.

-k

#10964 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 06:26 AM

View PostKdogg788, on 11 September 2015 - 06:05 AM, said:

Preorder page goes up by Monday. There was a what 2 month-ish delay from the announcement to the release of the Urban? Could be more but my memory is awful.

-k


ye, but where is UM hero ?

#10965 Strum Wealh

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 08:20 AM

View PostSgtMagor, on 11 September 2015 - 04:47 AM, said:

I like the New! design of the MAD over the Unseen art looks big and Bulky fits right into MWO :). give me my MAD-5D already heh! Posted Image

So... Variant Speculation!

I believe that we can safely assume that the "standard" MAD-3R is a given.

The remaining common (e.g. not one-off) variants (up to 3052) would be MAD-1R (the SLDF Royals variant), the MAD-2R (the Royals upgrade to the 1R), the MAD-3D, the MAD-3L, the MAD-3M, the MAD-5D, the MAD-5M, and the MAD-5S.

Of those, only the MAD-5D and MAD-5M are jump-capable.
None of the Marauder variants carry an ECM suite in their stock configurations until the debut of the MAD-5L in 3067.

#10966 Nathan Foxbane

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 10:33 AM

Pity the 4X uses Prototype Endo Steel and the really cool Prototype Double Heat Sinks (think Clan DHS that can be mixed with singles on the same 'Mech) because I'd kill for those Binary Laser Cannons still.

#10967 Jack Gallows

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 11:55 AM

View PostTitannium, on 11 September 2015 - 04:55 AM, said:

sry, but marauder design is ugly to me.


It's insanely better than those horrid project phoenix redesigns (the TRO, not the MWO ones,) and it's a good comparison to the original. Sorry it's not what you're looking for, but I think it's the best we can ask for since we won't ever get the originals back (and probably shouldn't as they're a bit dated/thin compared to the rest of the designs.)

I haven't spent a dime on MW:O since Project Phoenix (and haven't really played since then either,) but still looking forward to seeing how this appears visually in the game.

Basic MAD-3R I'd probably swap out the AC for an ultra 5, drop the PPCs to ER Larges (or upgrade to ER PPCS,) and maybe change the Mediums to either pulse variants or see if I can't finagle a 4 LL variant.

#10968 Odanan

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 06:15 PM

People here know I do like the TRO Reseen Marauder. I even did a MWO mock-up based on it.

Now the Shimmering's Marauder is the most beautiful MAD out there, IMHO. It is terrific that MWO now has a very similar one.

#10969 Brody319

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 06:34 PM

View PostOdanan, on 11 September 2015 - 06:15 PM, said:

People here know I do like the TRO Reseen Marauder. I even did a MWO mock-up based on it.

Now the Shimmering's Marauder is the most beautiful MAD out there, IMHO. It is terrific that MWO now has a very similar one.


I would love PGI's current design, or that first one you showed.

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 07:55 AM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 11 September 2015 - 08:20 AM, said:

So... Variant Speculation!

I believe that we can safely assume that the "standard" MAD-3R is a given.

The remaining common (e.g. not one-off) variants (up to 3052) would be MAD-1R (the SLDF Royals variant), the MAD-2R (the Royals upgrade to the 1R), the MAD-3D, the MAD-3L, the MAD-3M, the MAD-5D, the MAD-5M, and the MAD-5S.

Of those, only the MAD-5D and MAD-5M are jump-capable.
None of the Marauder variants carry an ECM suite in their stock configurations until the debut of the MAD-5L in 3067.


Since they added the S variants to the Wolves, they sure as hell better give us at least one Jumping capable variant for the Marauder.

One variant I'd like to try is the 5M. Drop the Pulses down to ER LLs/standard MLs. Add endo steel and then swap the XL down to a standard for a more robust version. Might be a bit too weak for MWO though as it was more of a TT idea. I'd imagine that most people would go with the Gauss Rifle and a quartet of MPLs instead.

Ahhh! It all makes sense why they're releasing the Marauder now...I just saw the list of the proposed new quirks that someone posted from the Public Test Server. Whoo boy are those things stinkers.

Edited by ShadowbaneX, 12 September 2015 - 08:26 AM.


#10971 SgtMagor

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 09:54 AM

yup yup Od!, Alex's MAD looks very similar to SSword's. 75ton mech should be big and bulky like SS's. Posted Image

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 10:30 AM

View PostSgtMagor, on 12 September 2015 - 09:54 AM, said:

yup yup Od!, Alex's MAD looks very similar to SSword's. 75ton mech should be big and bulky like SS's. Posted Image

I don't like this fat Marauder... this one is also by SS and much betPosted Imageter:

#10973 Metus regem

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 12:40 PM

View PostTitannium, on 11 September 2015 - 06:26 AM, said:


ye, but where is UM hero ?


Every Urbanmech is a hero.

#10974 BarHaid

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Posted 13 September 2015 - 01:39 PM

A little something for all of us who nit-pick these Phoenix redesigns apart.

Earlier today my 5-year old was playing with my Command Pod Glaug model as we were digging through storage boxes. Later on in the day the Marauder concept art came across the TV screensaver. My boy took in a quick breath; I looked over and asked "where have you seen that before?" He replied, " In the studio!"

I think that speaks volumes about the translation of forms from original art to new concept.

#10975 Odanan

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Posted 13 September 2015 - 04:55 PM

View PostBarHaid, on 13 September 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

A little something for all of us who nit-pick these Phoenix redesigns apart.

Earlier today my 5-year old was playing with my Command Pod Glaug model as we were digging through storage boxes. Later on in the day the Marauder concept art came across the TV screensaver. My boy took in a quick breath; I looked over and asked "where have you seen that before?" He replied, " In the studio!"

I think that speaks volumes about the translation of forms from original art to new concept.

Can't think of a better test in a trial!

(I hope the HG lawyers don't read this) :ph34r:

#10976 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 13 September 2015 - 05:05 PM

View PostOdanan, on 12 September 2015 - 10:30 AM, said:

I don't like this fat Marauder... this one is also by SS and much betPosted Imageter:

yet depending on angle, still looked more like a MAD II. Which was always my knock on it...not the design itself, but the heft simply didn't feel like a Marauder.

Alex's version looks a lot like he streamlined Shim's design (and the canon 4X that Shim did), right down to the slightly too dinky forearm weapon pods.

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Posted 13 September 2015 - 05:48 PM

View PostSgtMagor, on 11 September 2015 - 04:47 AM, said:

I like the New! design of the MAD over the Unseen art looks big and Bulky fits right into MWO :). give me my MAD-5D already heh! Posted Image


nice, nice, cute, slim enough for me

but
but

i want that gun barrel longer!!

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Posted 13 September 2015 - 06:41 PM

View PostOdanan, on 27 August 2015 - 08:53 AM, said:



#2 - Resistance III

- medium: Bushwacker
- heavy: Exterminator, War Dog
- assault: Devastator or Pillager



These are ones i would like to see other than the Marauder, Warhammer (reseens) which are coming.

Edited by Ace Selin, 13 September 2015 - 07:00 PM.


#10979 Jack Gallows

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Posted 13 September 2015 - 06:52 PM

View PostSgtMagor, on 12 September 2015 - 09:54 AM, said:

yup yup Od!, Alex's MAD looks very similar to SSword's. 75ton mech should be big and bulky like SS's.


View PostBishop Steiner, on 13 September 2015 - 05:05 PM, said:

Alex's version looks a lot like he streamlined Shim's design (and the canon 4X that Shim did), right down to the slightly too dinky forearm weapon pods.




It's because Shimmering Sword did the redesigns for Catalyst for the Unseens which means Flying Debris is basing the MW:O concepts off that. It'll be the same for the rest and you can be sure the Warhammer will be much alike to what's been shown recently. It looks amazing too :)

Edited by Jack Gallows, 13 September 2015 - 06:57 PM.


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 05:02 AM

View PostJack Gallows, on 13 September 2015 - 06:52 PM, said:

It's because Shimmering Sword did the redesigns for Catalyst for the Unseens which means Flying Debris is basing the MW:O concepts off that. It'll be the same for the rest and you can be sure the Warhammer will be much alike to what's been shown recently. It looks amazing too :)

Yes, it looks like the Battletech art will be much more unified from now on. MWO inspired the art for the tabletop books and now the TT, with the Unseen, inspires MWO back.

Thanks God we had Alex Iglesias to set up the standard. I hope in 10 years the next Mechwarrior/Battletech title will be heavily drawn over MWO's designs.





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