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#12281 SplashDown

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:02 PM

wonder if they will ever intro IS omni mechs? would love to get my hands on a 90 ton sunder

#12282 Armorine

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:06 PM

BISHOP!!!!!! dont speak ill of the beloved penetrator!!!! its so sexy and gorgeous and pulse lasery i must has it!!!......i want the version with missiles though.

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#12283 SplashDown

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:09 PM

i still have all the books from table top days and there are hundreds of pages of mechs in those books..this game really hasnt even scratched the surface yet imo

#12284 FLG 01

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:16 PM

My Resistance 3 wishlist:

Valkyrie (light)
Wyvern (medium)
Lancelot /// Excalibur /// Ostroc (heavy)
Spartan (assault)


The Wyvern is a Mech I came to like only recently, but I think it could look brilliant in game:

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View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 March 2016 - 11:34 AM, said:

pretty much everything points to it being extinct outside of Comstar.


True. But then that is true for a number of Mechs we have in game already. Heck, in the BTU some "IS"-Mechs we have in game are actually collecting dust in some Clan-cache as of 3052, not even available to ComStar, like the KGC-000b. And with the Zeus-5S we even have a Mech absolutely noone had in 3052.

This is not complaining, I just want to point out that PGI has a rather liberal policy when it comes to including Mechs.

Edited by FLG 01, 05 March 2016 - 12:16 PM.


#12285 CK16

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:17 PM

Yet not every one of those pre TRO3050 should be put in. Most would be rather meh in what it offers in META or fanbase. They in the end need to add mechs that will sell with the masses, not just a few older timers. It's not something nice to say I know but it's just the truth. This game will have to jump sometime sooner rather then later. This era is almost all tapped out of good mechs atm as it is.

#12286 Armorine

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:26 PM

lancelots a medium isnt it? seen it pop up on the forums ALOT over the years.

#12287 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:27 PM

View PostArmorine, on 05 March 2016 - 12:26 PM, said:

lancelots a medium isnt it? seen it pop up on the forums ALOT over the years.

60 tonner. Basically a medium, technically a heavy.

#12288 Metus regem

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:29 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 05 March 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

60 tonner. Basically a medium, technically a heavy.


Like the Riflemen or Dragon, a slightly over weight medium Mech.

#12289 Armorine

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:35 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 05 March 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

60 tonner. Basically a medium, technically a heavy.


ahh i could have sworn it was 55 tons....dont know why i thought that

#12290 FLG 01

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:35 PM

The Lancelot would probably be the little brother of the Black Knight: smaller, perhaps not in the optimal spot tonnage-wise (60ton Mechs are in a difficult spot), but higher mounted hardpoints.

Also, there are still a lot of pre-3053 Mechs which are promising.

#12291 CK16

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 12:55 PM

View PostFLG 01, on 05 March 2016 - 12:35 PM, said:

Also, there are still a lot of pre-3053 Mechs which are promising.


For Inner sphere sure...Clan's are not having alot left, and no a bunch of IIC's and all the Golden Generation would solve this, nor should they just say LOL clans are done we not add anymore clans and only focus on ancient IS designs.....In the end many of these chassis are boring, and only have a very few fans, also TONS of them would be huge flops. PGI would go broke adding them all cause they couldn't sell enough of them to warrant the resources to create the mech in game (which is NOT cheap). We cant live in the past I am sorry to sound like a ***** on this, but we can not simply get ALL or even a Majority of these older chassis in, the popular and good ones yes, the lesser known sorry those can be added later on as filler and probably not sold for much cash either. In the end PGI has to add what will make them the most money over time.

Edited by CK16, 05 March 2016 - 12:55 PM.


#12292 Odanan

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 01:22 PM

CK16, because of quirks, any mech can be good.

#12293 Metus regem

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 01:23 PM

View PostOdanan, on 05 March 2016 - 01:22 PM, said:

CK16, because of quirks, any mech can be good.


Some just need more help than others....

#12294 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 01:26 PM

View PostCK16, on 05 March 2016 - 12:55 PM, said:


For Inner sphere sure...Clan's are not having alot left, and no a bunch of IIC's and all the Golden Generation would solve this, nor should they just say LOL clans are done we not add anymore clans and only focus on ancient IS designs.....In the end many of these chassis are boring, and only have a very few fans, also TONS of them would be huge flops. PGI would go broke adding them all cause they couldn't sell enough of them to warrant the resources to create the mech in game (which is NOT cheap). We cant live in the past I am sorry to sound like a ***** on this, but we can not simply get ALL or even a Majority of these older chassis in, the popular and good ones yes, the lesser known sorry those can be added later on as filler and probably not sold for much cash either. In the end PGI has to add what will make them the most money over time.

actually many of the golden century, second line mechs and IICs are amongst the most interesting Clan offerings, even if one jumped to the fedcom civil war era.

Rifleman IIC would be in pretty much every drop deck. WHM, MAD and LCT IIC would sell like hotcakes.

#12295 FupDup

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 01:26 PM

View PostOdanan, on 05 March 2016 - 01:22 PM, said:

CK16, because of quirks, any mech can be good.

The problem is that the specific quirkage application chosen by Pea Gee Eye is not always sufficient to make that happen...

#12296 JudgeDeathCZ

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 01:30 PM

just no more balistic 40-45 toners...Vindicator is terrible and I do not see Phoenix Hawk being better even MASC or ECM variants...BJ will still rox 45t bracket

#12297 Metus regem

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 01:31 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 March 2016 - 01:26 PM, said:

actually many of the golden century, second line mechs and IICs are amongst the most interesting Clan offerings, even if one jumped to the fedcom civil war era.

Rifleman IIC would be in pretty much every drop deck. WHM, MAD and LCT IIC would sell like hotcakes.


Not just that, but the early Omni-mechs (Coyotl and Lupis) are actually really decent mechs, even the Woodsmen is good, their crimes is that they were tought up years after TRO 3050, and they had to be retired so that the mechs in TRO 3050 made sense to be there.

#12298 Odanan

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 01:48 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 05 March 2016 - 01:31 PM, said:

Not just that, but the early Omni-mechs (Coyotl and Lupis) are actually really decent mechs, even the Woodsmen is good, their crimes is that they were tought up years after TRO 3050, and they had to be retired so that the mechs in TRO 3050 made sense to be there.

Coyotl is good.
Lupus and Woodsman, not so much.

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 03:02 PM

View PostOdanan, on 05 March 2016 - 01:48 PM, said:

Coyotl is good.
Lupus and Woodsman, not so much.

what's bad about the woodsman? Decent loadout, and several high hardpoints. STs might be a little big, but hey, the Orion is just crying a river for it, lol.

oh and just cuz
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#12300 Metus regem

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Posted 05 March 2016 - 03:04 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 March 2016 - 03:02 PM, said:

what's bad about the woodsman? Decent loadout, and several high hardpoints. STs might be a little big, but hey, the Orion is just crying a river for it, lol.

oh and just cuz
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That's the only way a Spartan Archer should be painted.

Edited by Metus regem, 05 March 2016 - 03:04 PM.






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