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[Steinar Bergstol]

The crazy thing is, of course, that unlike in the TT game the MWO Charger might actually be good rather than a laughingstock thanks to high enginecap and many energy hardpoints. Really drives home the differences between TT Battletech and MWO, doesn't it?

That said, I always did enjoy using the Charger in TT by, you know, charging at every opportunity and then kicking the ******** once I was in close. Small lasers? Bah! They're just there for decoration!

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Steinar Bergstol, on 31 July 2016 - 06:05 AM, said:

The crazy thing is, of course, that unlike in the TT game the MWO Charger might actually be good rather than a laughingstock thanks to high enginecap and many energy hardpoints. Really drives home the differences between TT Battletech and MWO, doesn't it?

i thought the same. and the mech looks cool.

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[Odanan]

TrapJaw80, on 31 July 2016 - 06:17 AM, said:

i thought the same. and the mech looks cool.

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It does right? I suspect Alex Iglesias already did the concept art (considering the Charger was in the same poll that gave us later the Zeus and Cyclops).

The Charger is simply one of those "must haves" mech in MWO. The (many) variants are deliciously different from each other.
(I know the Hatamoto with that robot-samurai thing is more popular, but in MWO it would be an inferior mech in every way)

[Bishop Steiner]

Juodas Varnas, on 31 July 2016 - 05:48 AM, said:

As long as he brings his more attractive brother, the Hatamoto-chi.

Hatamoto Chi? Sorry son, this is Battletech not Gundam.

Plus why settle for Kurita's cheap knockoff, when we can have the real mack daddy......

THUG LIFE

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 31 July 2016 - 07:04 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 July 2016 - 07:00 AM, said:

Hatamoto Chi? Sorry son, this is Battletech not Gundam.

Hmmm?
Sorry, i didn't hear you over the Phoenix Hawk crying in the corner.

[Bishop Steiner]

Juodas Varnas, on 31 July 2016 - 07:03 AM, said:

Hmmm?
Sorry, i didn't hear you over the Phoenix Hawk crying in the corner.

That's Macross.... far less cheesy than gundams. Learn your anime, GOSH!

You trying to turn this into a circus freakshow?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 31 July 2016 - 07:06 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Also....let's hope they don't use this as the basis...


or we gonna have a mech that makes the Awesome look like Kate Moss

[FearNotDeath]

Warhawk F variant please, the chassis needs some love and a ballistic torso would be huge. It can't be that hard to add and I'd buy it day one.

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Bishop Steiner, on 31 July 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:

Also....let's hope they don't use this as the basis...


or we gonna have a mech that makes the Awesome look like Kate Moss

i loled so hard .

FearNotDeath, on 31 July 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

Warhawk F variant please, the chassis needs some love and a ballistic torso would be huge. It can't be that hard to add and I'd buy it day one.

in this case victor 9a too

[jss78]

TrapJaw80, on 31 July 2016 - 06:17 AM, said:

i thought the same. and the mech looks cool.

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Seriously, the only thing why I have difficulty taking the Charger seriously is that teeny-tiny popgun pistol. If it's that small, you don't want to go waving it around in public.

Move that fifth SL to torso, and I agree it's a cool 'mech. I'd also like this one MWO though I generally hate assaults.

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jss78, on 31 July 2016 - 07:17 AM, said:

Seriously, the only thing why I have difficulty taking the Charger seriously is that teeny-tiny popgun pistol. If it's that small, you don't want to go waving it around in public

Edited by TrapJaw80, 31 July 2016 - 07:46 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

jss78, on 31 July 2016 - 07:17 AM, said:

Seriously, the only thing why I have difficulty taking the Charger seriously is that teeny-tiny popgun pistol. If it's that small, you don't want to go waving it around in public.

Move that fifth SL to torso, and I agree it's a cool 'mech. I'd also like this one MWO though I generally hate assaults.

[Juodas Varnas]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 July 2016 - 07:05 AM, said:

Learn your anime, GOSH!

[Ovion]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 July 2016 - 07:05 AM, said:

That's Macross.... far less cheesy than gundams. Learn your anime, GOSH!

You trying to turn this into a circus freakshow?

Macross has an entire series where the main character fights and destroys mechs with a guitar, and The Power of Love stopped a battleship.

Say what you will, it's not less cheesy.

[Odanan]

FearNotDeath, on 31 July 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

Warhawk F variant please, the chassis needs some love and a ballistic torso would be huge. It can't be that hard to add and I'd buy it day one.

We really need that!
(and Diana's hero Warhawk, for the jumpjets)

TrapJaw80, on 31 July 2016 - 07:17 AM, said:

in this case victor 9a too

Yeah, that one too.
(begging for it since the Victor concept art reveal)

Ovion, on 31 July 2016 - 08:57 AM, said:

Macross has an entire series where the main character fights and destroys mechs with a guitar, and The Power of Love stopped a battleship.

Say what you will, it's not less cheesy.

You don't dare talk bad about Macross.

[Bishop Steiner]

Ovion, on 31 July 2016 - 08:57 AM, said:

Macross has an entire series where the main character fights and destroys mechs with a guitar, and The Power of Love stopped a battleship.

Say what you will, it's not less cheesy.

Note I said "Macross", not Macross 7, Macross II, Macross Plus, Macross Frontier, Macross Zero. I consider anything after the original as bald cash grabs. Gundams are just silly from beginning to end. (with exception of one series...can't recall which... The 08th MS Team? Which was a pretty decent basic war story...but the robots were still pretty stupid)

But given a choice, I'd take Votoms, over either.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 31 July 2016 - 11:05 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 July 2016 - 11:02 AM, said:

Note I said "Macross", not Macross 7, Macross II, Macross Plus, Macross Frontier, Macross Zero. I consider anything after the original as bald cash grabs. Gundams are just silly from beginning to end.

But given a choice, I'd take Votoms, over either.

Why not Dougram?
(Totally not because that's where the Scorpion is from. HONEST)

[Bishop Steiner]

Juodas Varnas, on 31 July 2016 - 11:05 AM, said:

Why not Dougram?
(Totally not because that's where the Scorpion is from. HONEST)

I like most of the Dougram designs (although aside from the Dougram/Shadowhawk I think in many ways Btech improved on them (in some depictions)...as the art was mediocre), but never really got into the story. Votoms tells a great war story, as a whole.

I mean I could go on a long list of "Good/Bad" Anime....
(Good: Macross, Mospeada, Venus Wars, Patlabor, New Dominion Tank Police, VOTOMs, Appleseed, Spaceship Yamato, Akira, Guyver, Wings of Honneamise, etc. BAD:... Anything Dragon Ball, Evangelion, ALL Macross Sequels, most things revolving around teenagers, and "cute" animal mascots.....)

Anime is like Scotch... it's either great, or horrible, with very little in between

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 31 July 2016 - 11:25 AM.

[Metus regem]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 July 2016 - 11:13 AM, said:

I mean I could go on a long list of "Good/Bad" Anime....
(Good: Macross, Mospeada, Venus Wars, Patlabor, New Dominion Tank Police, VOTOMs, Appleseed, Spaceship Yamato, Akira, Guyver, Wings of Honneamise, etc. BAD:... Anything Dragon Ball, Evangelion, ALL Macross Sequels, most things revolving around teenagers, and "cute" animal mascots.....)

Anime is like Scotch... it's either great, or horrible, with very little in between

Macross Zero, Plus and Frontier were all good, Seven and Macross II were bad, I've not seen Delta yet so no option on it yet...

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Steinar Bergstol, on 31 July 2016 - 06:05 AM, said:

The crazy thing is, of course, that unlike in the TT game the MWO Charger might actually be good rather than a laughingstock thanks to high enginecap and many energy hardpoints. Really drives home the differences between TT Battletech and MWO, doesn't it?

I'd say the concept of the Charger was always viable. I don't mean the scouting role in particular, just the general idea: It is a Mech with the movement profile of a lighter Mech at the expense of armour and armament. There is nothing inherently wrong with an 80ton cavalry Mech. The Charger just took it to an extreme - without having the technology to do so. 3025 was not a good time for the concept, and it was an extremely bad time for the Charger.

As soon as we got Star League-Tech things got better and the concept matured. Instead of scouting they focussed on quick response and skirmishing. The later CGR-3K or the Spartan are very interesting designs. Of course, one can debate how useful exactly they are on TT, but they are credible Mechs.

Since we are not stuck with 3025-Tech in MWO, there is nothing wrong with us upgrading the CGR-1A1 to make it combat ready.

And I can totally see myself doing that. I'd prefer the lighter Ostroc, but I would buy the Charger too.