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[Bishop Steiner]

Odanan, on 08 December 2017 - 06:15 PM, said:

That's not a very good example... :/

Anyway, if a game (or IP) does not make the fans happy, it's doing it wrong.

depends if he speaks of the MW4 Uziel, or the **** we got...

[Odanan]

Oh well, I can live with 1 mech by PGI/year.

And here are the mechs I want to see in 2018/2019: (I need to make a new signature - as I lost the source file of the old one)

IS
- Light: Wasp, Raptor
- Medium: Chimera, Men Shen
- Heavy: Crusader, Argus
- Assault: Charger, Fafnir

Clan
- Light: Fire Moth (might never happen, though), Fire Falcon
- Medium: Hellhound (the MW4 one), Vapor Eagle
- Heavy: Rifleman IIC, Black Python
- Assault: Blood Asp, Bane, Stone Rhino

And that's it. That's all I need, that's all I ask.

PS: happy extras: Stinger, Vulcan, Ostroc, Excalibur, Longbow, Coyotl, Warhammer IIC, Turkina.

Edited by Odanan, 09 December 2017 - 02:50 AM.

[CK16]

I think it is because alot of the MW4 new mechs were made while the lore was still being written for that time, they were just towards the end of the Civil War and just getting into the Jihad (mech assault). Then shortly after the franchise jumped to the Dark Age (of which we have had no game of this era)

[The Lighthouse]

Bishop Steiner, on 08 December 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

depends if he speaks of the MW4 Uziel, or the **** we got...

Of course MW4 version. What we got here is.... to put it plainly, an insult to that modeler who first designed this mech 17 years ago.

[Juodas Varnas]

Yeeeep, a PGI-original, just as i thought.
Not a big fan of it, seems very front-heavy to be honest.

I would've much rather had pretty much any 3025 robbit, but i can't say i'm disappointed. Mostly because i wasn't expecting it to be much anyway.

[Odanan]

Requiemking, on 08 December 2017 - 06:00 PM, said:

I don't mind. Honestly, I don't really understand why so many people take issue with the idea of PGI making their own mechs. MW4 did it and no one batted an eye, so why is MWO being given the short end of the stick in that regard?

I did. I hated MW4 when it was released because of how much they deviated from Battletech. But MW4 had greater problems than the new mechs, so...

Bishop Steiner, on 08 December 2017 - 06:05 PM, said:

with dozens of fan favorites still out there? Seems a little premature to start "adding" generic gundams with no history. And had there been forum culture to thsi degree in 2002, you can bet your butt the whining would have gone nuclear.

This. ^

But the new MWO mech is sexy (another masterpiece by Alex Iglesias) and as long as they keep releasing our fan favorites, it's all fine. What would be a nice surprise is if this mech was the first IS omnimech (we don't have perfect options for omni heavy or assault, so the new creation is justified).

[Pariah Devalis]

Honestly, as I said before, I'm fine with the rare few new chassis from PGI. MW4 did it, and people didn't lose their minds. Might as well allow PGI the same courtesy, with moderation. Once a year isn't too bad.

I only hope, however, that these new mechs actually address tonnage points that we are lacking in. For example, the 60-ton and 95-ton Clan points.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 09 December 2017 - 06:25 AM.

[TheArisen]

Pariah Devalis, on 09 December 2017 - 05:20 AM, said:

Honestly, as I said before, I'm fine with the rare few new chassis from PGI. MW4 did it, and people didn't loose their minds. Might as well allow PGI the same courtesy, with moderation. Once a year isn't too bad.

I only hope, however, that these new mechs actually address tonnage points that we are lacking in. For example, the 60-ton and 95-ton Clan points.

So we only know they invented a new chassis? Anything else?

[Juodas Varnas]

TheArisen, on 09 December 2017 - 06:10 AM, said:

So we only know they invented a new chassis? Anything else?

I don't think we'll know anything else until they officially unveil it at mechcon

I'm just hoping it's not another mech in a highly overpopulated tonnage bracket, like the Roughneck was. (Don't get me wrong though, i like the Roughneck, still pilot it from time to time)

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 09 December 2017 - 06:16 AM.

[Metus regem]

The Lighthouse, on 08 December 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

Of course MW4 version. What we got here is.... to put it plainly, an insult to that modeler who first designed this mech 17 years ago.

To be fair, the one here is more inline with the TT incarnation of the Uziel.....

[Odanan]

Juodas Varnas, on 09 December 2017 - 06:15 AM, said:

I don't think we'll know anything else until they officially unveil it at mechcon

I'm just hoping it's not another mech in a highly overpopulated tonnage bracket, like the Roughneck was. (Don't get me wrong though, i like the Roughneck, still pilot it from time to time)

I hope it's a 85 tonner.

[Adridos]

Metus regem, on 09 December 2017 - 07:20 AM, said:

To be fair, the one here is more inline with the TT incarnation of the Uziel.....

The thing is, no one cares about the TT incarnation of the Uziel.
It was hammered out as a quick cash-in on the popularity of the machine in the game and not much else.

[Bishop Steiner]

enhanced/combined image work done by Bryan Napier over on the BTI FB page

Adridos, on 09 December 2017 - 08:16 AM, said:

The thing is, no one cares about the TT incarnation of the Uziel.
It was hammered out as a quick cash-in on the popularity of the machine in the game and not much else.

Exactly. Also, the MW4 version is listed in the variants... but the TRO 3067 version of most of the MW4 mechs were disappointing.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 09 December 2017 - 08:26 AM.

[Odanan]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 December 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

enhanced/combined image work done by Bryan Napier over on the BTI FB page

He got the leg wrong. It's larger.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Odanan, on 09 December 2017 - 03:04 AM, said:

What would be a nice surprise is if this mech was the first IS omnimech (we don't have perfect options for omni heavy or assault, so the new creation is justified).

I don't know, the Black Hawk-KU seems pretty perfect

[Bishop Steiner]

Jay Leon Hart, on 09 December 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

I don't know, the Black Hawk-KU seems pretty perfect

Eh.... not really. Never understood the love affair with that bot.

Odanan, on 09 December 2017 - 08:34 AM, said:

He got the leg wrong. It's larger.

agreed, but it still shows more than any other single image, so ...deal?

[Odanan]

Jay Leon Hart, on 09 December 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

I don't know, the Black Hawk-KU seems pretty perfect

The Chinese copy of the Nova?

Why would you want that if you can get the original (and better) for 10 tons less?

[Jay Leon Hart]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 December 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

Eh.... not really. Never understood the love affair with that bot.

Laser boating. I want some more IS robbitz to do it with

Odanan, on 09 December 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

The Chinese copy of the Nova?

Why would you want that if you can get the original (and better) for 10 tons less?

So I can do it worse than the original using IS tech. Because reasons

[Gasoline]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 December 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

enhanced/combined image work done by Bryan Napier over on the BTI FB page



Exactly. Also, the MW4 version is listed in the variants... but the TRO 3067 version of most of the MW4 mechs were disappointing.

Hrm... Judging from the looks the arm missiles seem to be symmetrical. Given that and the gun barrels of the right arm being a UAC10 it has to be a clan mech. IS couldn't fit that loadout slotwise.

[FLG 01]

Jay Leon Hart, on 09 December 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

I don't know, the Black Hawk-KU seems pretty perfect

This is a very well build Mech indeed. Good hitboxes, good engine, good hardpoints.
The main problem with Omnis is the inability to change the engine, and in this case, I'd go with the XL300 anyway for mobility and firepower. (The 300 rating is generally very efficient, too).

Odanan, on 09 December 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

Why would you want that if you can get the original (and better) for 10 tons less?

The Black Hawk-KU is simply a well designed Mech as far as the limitations of IS tech allow. In MWO it would be solid enough even with mediocre quirks. It's better than many other options. And compared to the other heavy IS Omnis of the time, especially the Avatar, it is a masterpiece.

Edited by FLG 01, 09 December 2017 - 09:31 AM.