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#19721 Odanan

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Posted 01 October 2018 - 09:05 AM

New mech today!
Is it the Stone Rhino?

#19722 Tordin

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Posted 01 October 2018 - 09:35 AM

New mech today alredy? Been outta the loop for to long... I imagined tomorrow, tuesday you know.

#19723 SuperFunkTron

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Posted 01 October 2018 - 11:13 AM

I also thought it was always on a Tuesday

#19724 The Lighthouse

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Posted 01 October 2018 - 06:52 PM

Does not really matter. Sometimes early, sometimes late.

All we can say is prob this week.

#19725 Shadowomega1

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Posted 01 October 2018 - 07:29 PM

Yea, this Friday. Which means they will likely have another mech running at the same time at the end of the month.

#19726 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 01 October 2018 - 11:39 PM

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#19727 Marauder3D

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 08:04 AM

What? I don't even?

Is that an Atlas III driven by Miley Cyrus?

Have I been drinking again?

Oi.

#19728 Shadowomega1

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 08:41 AM

View PostMarauder3D, on 02 October 2018 - 08:04 AM, said:

What? I don't even?

Is that an Atlas III driven by Miley Cyrus?

Have I been drinking again?

Oi.


Likely drinking as that is an Atlas II.

#19729 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 01:33 PM

So are we thinking Clan Assault? I really hope not, there's not much left in timeline that interests me. In fact, there's only really one...
Canis
All my other "do want" choices are highly unlikely;
Tomahawk - Prototype in 3065, launched as the model II in 3088
Hellstar - 3079
Cygnus - 3075

Heavy would be a good choice, after the disappointing way the Hellfire was handled. The hitboxes, the weapon geometry, that poor thing is a mess.
I've been convinced by some decent arguments to move the Black Python to the top of my list, which are mostly "75 tonner with ECM" and "all the lasers with even more DHS"
My previous top-pick the Burrock could be solid, but needs 5 variants inventing.
Arcas could be interesting, but needs 4 variants inventing, 3 if PGI makes a "not quite ACS-3" by replacing the IJJs with regular JJs.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 01:47 PM

I'm probably going to get e-Flamed for this, but do we really need any more assaults in this game? We have a ton of options, on both Clan and IS. How many assaults do you need?

I'm hoping for a Light or Medium, would prefer IS but I'll live either way.

If it is a clan mech, Black Python would be my best hope.

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#19731 Spheroid

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 02:12 PM

Are they going to reveal the next mech or not? It is getting late in the day.

#19732 Marauder3D

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 02:22 PM

View PostSpheroid, on 02 October 2018 - 02:12 PM, said:

Are they going to reveal the next mech or not? It is getting late in the day.


Honestly? Could be any day this week. If not today, I'd suspect Friday-ish.

#19733 FLG 01

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 03:14 PM

View PostMarauder3D, on 02 October 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

I'm probably going to get e-Flamed for this, but do we really need any more assaults in this game? We have a ton of options, on both Clan and IS. How many assaults do you need?

"Need" is relative, isn't it? I mean, I myself prefer mediums but at this point in the game, few Mechs are truly needed in terms of gameplay. There are only small niches left, like some Clan BattleMechs in certain weight classes.
And honestly, the Vapor Eagle fulfills most of the Clan medium Mech needs. So even as a fan of mediums (someone who hopes for units like the Crimson Langur!) I have to say that a Clan medium would not be the best choice.

Given the limitations of the current 70t OmniMechs I would like to see a Clan BattleMech of that weight, but the canonic options are not exactly thrilling. At 65 tons, the Arcas looks quite nice, also being a much needed 65t Clan BattleMech.

#19734 cougurt

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 03:24 PM

View PostMarauder3D, on 02 October 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

I'm probably going to get e-Flamed for this, but do we really need any more assaults in this game? We have a ton of options, on both Clan and IS. How many assaults do you need?

we don't particularly need more assaults, but i would like to get the bane just so we can have a c-bill alternative to the ultraviolet. and for those who like to eat glue, it would also be the first 100 ton clan missile boat (unless you count the spirit bear), with the bane 3 having a whopping 9 missile hardpoints.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 03:41 PM

View PostMarauder3D, on 02 October 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

I'm probably going to get e-Flamed for this, but do we really need any more assaults in this game? We have a ton of options, on both Clan and IS. How many assaults do you need?

I'm hoping for a Light or Medium, would prefer IS but I'll live either way.

If it is a clan mech, Black Python would be my best hope.

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I'd say that if we get more assaults we should get a Clan 80-ton Battlemech. That's definitely a gaping hole in the current lineup (Mr. Gargles is fun for laser vomit but not exactly the optimal choice). The Warhammer IIC is a great candidate for this.

Black Python is good choice too though, I'm just afraid it will have to get meganerfed to have Night Gyr agility or even worse because of how many high-mounted lasers it can pack.

#19736 cougurt

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:15 PM

View PostFupDup, on 02 October 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

I'd say that if we get more assaults we should get a Clan 80-ton Battlemech. That's definitely a gaping hole in the current lineup (Mr. Gargles is fun for laser vomit but not exactly the optimal choice). The Warhammer IIC is a great candidate for this.

i think i'd actually prefer the phoenix hawk IIC. it has JJs, 400 engine cap, and there's some good variation between the IIC/2/3. the 3 could do laser vomit just fine with some slight hardpoint inflation.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 05:10 PM

Black Python not only has tons of energy but also has high mounted torso ballistics. Dual gauss, lbx10/20 or uac5/10 plus lasers could be quite potent.

I do agree that the Clans are fine for assaults and also that the BP is the best heavy option.

For mediums the Veagle can basically do anything and everything so what is there to add really? Lighter mediums?
Mongrel/Grendel? Basically a clan Blackjack but with a bigger engine.
http://www.sarna.net...ngrel_(Grendel)
Pinion? Haha, only if you want to piss off the clans.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Pinion
Pouncer, 40t Adder with JJ.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Pouncer
Griffin IIc is basicaly a combo of the Viper and AWolf
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Griffin_IIC
Lobo? Jjim did do some epic class art of it.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lobo

Lights?
Zaku... I mean Horned Owl. Potentially very strong 35 tonner.
http://www.sarna.net...Owl_(Peregrine)
Fire Falcon has been popular for awhile.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Fire_Falcon
Icestorm, because speed
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Icestorm
Bear Cub, missile lynx?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bear_Cub
Commando IIc, needs variants but, why not?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Commando_IIC

Edited by TheArisen, 02 October 2018 - 05:12 PM.


#19738 Odanan

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 07:18 PM

Clan mechs I want to see, in order of preference: Firemoth, Rifleman IIC, Stone Rhino, Fire Falcon, Bane, Warhammer IIC, Phoenix Hawk IIC, Coyotl, Black Python.

View PostFLG 01, on 02 October 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

Given the limitations of the current 70t OmniMechs I would like to see a Clan BattleMech of that weight, but the canonic options are not exactly thrilling. At 65 tons, the Arcas looks quite nice, also being a much needed 65t Clan BattleMech.

Rifleman IIC hands down.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 07:46 PM

View PostOdanan, on 02 October 2018 - 07:18 PM, said:

Rifleman IIC hands down.

Since the most notable pilot is the Lyran Archon Roderic Steiner, who pilots a modified Rifleman IIC 3 (aka Hero Mech)... why not? ;)

#19740 Will9761

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 07:59 PM

View PostFLG 01, on 02 October 2018 - 07:46 PM, said:

Since the most notable pilot is the Lyran Archon Roderic Steiner, who pilots a modified Rifleman IIC 3 (aka Hero Mech)... why not? Posted Image


I don't know if we will ever see the Rifleman IIC. As Russ's wording is a little vague. He said PGI can continue to use "Classic BattleTech" designs, so it is unclear if we will ever see a Rifleman IIC at all.





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