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#2041 Strum Wealh

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:28 AM

View PostNexx Valasek, on 05 February 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

i really want to see a komodo, it has three varients other than its stock (which is bad *** by the way) i mean who wouldn't want an 11 energy hardpoint mech with ecm and 2 AMS (admitedly the varients are fairly similar and would need a bit of poetic license on the part of the devs to make them seem unique)

However, look at the official years-of-availability on the variants (from the Master Unit List):
KIM-2: 3053
KIM-2A: 3053
KIM-2C: 3064
KIM-3C: 3064

It has more than three variants... with the first (and second) appearing in 3053 and the third (and fourth) in 3064.

MWO is currently in 3050, so the Komodo hasn't been invented yet and it won't have three variants for quite some time yet.

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View PostJack Gallows, on 05 February 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

What I really want: Cyclops or Hatamoto-Chi

What I think we're going to get: Zeus

What I really don't want: Banshee

What i want more then the all else: Wolverine and the other unseen/reseen

View PostThe Birdeater, on 05 February 2013 - 06:41 AM, said:

What I really want: Banshee or Annihilator

What I think we're going to get: Zeus (unfortunately)

What I really don't want: Another useless 80 ton crap!

What i want more then the all else: Clan OmniMechs! :ph34r:

What I really want (for BattleMech 20): Marauder II (yes, I know it's Unseen :huh:)

What I think we're going to get (for BattleMech 20): Banshee B)

What I really don't want (for BattleMech 20): Clan 'Mechs (Omni or otherwise)... other than the Marauder IIC (also Unseen... or is it?)

What i want more then the all else: Marauder (also Unseen... but one can hope! -_-)

** The image used for the Marauder IIC on the Master Unit List is the reseen image... and it isn't blacked out like the Marauder, Marauder II, Warhammer, and the other Unseen. What can this mean? Is there hope for the Marauder and its ilk after all?! :)
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Edited by Strum Wealh, 05 February 2013 - 10:31 AM.


#2042 Odanan

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:02 PM

View PostAssegia, on 05 February 2013 - 03:27 AM, said:

Battlemech 20: Thunderbolt. My prematch speculation.


Nuts.

#2043 Odanan

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:13 PM

Here we go.


What I really want but won't get: Mauler, or Annihilator

What I want and there is a small possibility to get: Charger, or Victor

What I think we're going to get: Banshee, or Zeus

What I really don't want: well, I think I would be happy with ANY assault mech... hmm except for the Thug

What I want more then the all else: Reseens (starting now with the Battlemaster)

PS: the reseen Marauder II would be nice too.

#2044 Strum Wealh

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:19 PM

View PostOdanan, on 05 February 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

PS: the reseen Marauder II would be nice too.

Unfortunately, the Reseen Marauder II (100-ton IS 'Mech) is apparently still considered "Unseeable".
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(Pictured above: MAD-6D Marauder II)

Though, as previously noted, the Reseen Marauder IIC (85-ton Clan 'Mech) may be "less Unseeable". ;)
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(Pictured above: Marauder IIC, variant 2)

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(Pictured above: Marauder IIC, variant 7)

Personally, I would have replaced the lower glass panels with armor panels on both of these (to reduce the amount of glass that is front-and-center), as well as doing the same on the Reseen (but apparently still "Unseeable") Marauder.
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(Pictured above: Marauder (unknown variant, possibly MAD-3R?) by FlyingDebris)

#2045 Phoenix Branson

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:28 PM

View PostButane9000, on 04 February 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

I have nothing to add which is why I've been scarce the last week. The letdown of no announcement really got to me. So I guess in the meantime I'll share this:

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Because that's how I felt when they didn't make a new mech announcement.


That's exactly how I felt with no annoucement! ;)

View PostOdanan, on 05 February 2013 - 03:17 AM, said:


There isn't much logic in your theory, you know. :P


Only time will tell if my hunch is correct, Odanan. Hopefully, I'm wrong and we shall see this tomorrow...

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Edited by Maverick01, 05 February 2013 - 05:36 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:25 PM

View PostMaverick01, on 05 February 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:


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Dat Zeus... Kicks *** and takes names while handicapping itself with horse blinders. It's the Chuck Norris of BT/MW

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:36 PM

If Chuck Norris had a Battlemech it would be named "Chuck Norris" and be able to make two melee attacks in one round using a Zeus for a hatchet attack while performing a roundhouse kick. :(

Edited by Sennin, 05 February 2013 - 08:38 PM.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:53 AM

ZEUS!

Please don't make us wait 'til the end of February for #20!

#2049 Ens

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:02 AM

bring it on!

#2050 Odanan

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:07 AM

Is it today?

#2051 Odanan

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:12 AM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 05 February 2013 - 03:19 PM, said:

(Pictured above: Marauder (unknown variant, possibly MAD-3R?) by FlyingDebris)


by FlyingDebris: we are at home.

PS: I don't see how these Reseen Marauders could have any legal issues... they are VERY different from the original ones.
PPS: the Reseen Marauder not only makes more sense but it is really beautiful.

#2052 Lonestar1771

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:46 AM

View PostSennin, on 05 February 2013 - 08:36 PM, said:

If Chuck Norris had a Battlemech it would be named "Chuck Norris" and be able to make two melee attacks in one round using a Zeus for a hatchet attack while performing a roundhouse kick. :(


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#2053 Jack Gallows

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:58 AM

View PostOdanan, on 06 February 2013 - 03:12 AM, said:

PS: I don't see how these Reseen Marauders could have any legal issues... they are VERY different from the original ones.


The Reseen/Unseen are honestly the most baffling thing in Battletech to me. They KNOW they can't use the Unseen, tried to make them Reseen, then you generally really don't see them after that at all. It feels like they just really walked away from the whole thing and no one really wants to ever go back to it or even try to clear it up once and for all. It seems forever something to steer clear of, regardless of a 'mechs legal status.

Which is what they really need to do. No offense to the Project Phoenix stuff, but most of the redesigns are bad, very bad. Every single Unseen/Reseen needs to get a proper redesign that sets itself firmly apart from it's previous illegal design, and I really believe it can be done while maintaining what people enjoy about that specific 'mech. I think most people would just be happy to be using the 'mechs again freely.

PGI could make money hand over fist if they'd find out all they needed to do to let Flyingdebris make official remakes of the Unseen/Reseen that would carry forward into all future Mechwarrior/Battletech content. People would stampede over each other to buy these 'mechs in MW:O, especially hero 'mech versions (Hello! Natasha Kerensky's Warhammer!!!)

It needs to happen, we need to be free and clear of this mess once and for all but we're left with questions and nothing solid. It most likely isn't easy for what I ask, but it'd be so worth it.

Also, Cyclops or Hatamoto-Chi today GO!

Edited by Jack Gallows, 06 February 2013 - 06:13 AM.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:45 AM

What I really want: Devastator

What I think we're going to get: Banshee

What I really don't want: Charger

What i want more then the all else: For them to get off their butts and announce Battlemech #20.

Edited by Butane9000, 06 February 2013 - 07:46 AM.


#2055 Lonestar1771

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:51 AM

What I really want: ZEUS!!™

What I think we're going to get: ZEUS!!™

What I really don't want: Anything not a ZEUS!!™

What i want more then all else: The Highlander to be in game. (Thought I was gonna say ZEUS!!™, didn't you?)

#2056 Phoenix Branson

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:52 AM

View PostJack Gallows, on 06 February 2013 - 05:58 AM, said:


PGI could make money hand over fist if they'd find out all they needed to do to let Flyingdebris make official remakes of the Unseen/Reseen that would carry forward into all future Mechwarrior/Battletech content. People would stampede over each other to buy these 'mechs in MW:O, especially hero 'mech versions (Hello! Natasha Kerensky's Warhammer!!!)

It needs to happen, we need to be free and clear of this mess once and for all but we're left with questions and nothing solid. It most likely isn't easy for what I ask, but it'd be so worth it.GO!


I agree with the approach PGI is taking on the reseen/unseen nonsense, avoid it like the plague! It's to much risk to the project for even the possibility of a lawsuit. Hopefully, the reseen/unseen mechs stay dead forever, until they own the IP. Avoid the risk, entirely!

Edited by Maverick01, 06 February 2013 - 08:00 AM.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:02 AM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 05 February 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:


MWO is currently in 3050, so the Komodo hasn't been invented yet and it won't have three variants for quite some time yet.


sarna never actually quoted the years of production on the komodo and while i figured that they weren't in production as of the current MWO timeline i had hoped that they wouldn't bee too far off... oh well i can still hope for the future (sigh)

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:22 AM

View PostMaverick01, on 06 February 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

I agree with the approach PGI is taking on the reseen/unseen nonsense, avoid it like the plague! It's to much risk to the project for even the possibility of a lawsuit. Hopefully, the reseen/unseen mechs stay dead forever, until they own the IP. Avoid the risk, entirely!

There is absolutely no risk at all using the Reseen designs.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:34 AM

What I really want: Enforcer

What I think we're going to get: Urbanmech

What I really don't want: Any of the "Ost" mechs. I guess they are unseen though, so I'm safe.

What i want more then all else: Stalker hero mech

#2060 Ens

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:38 AM

View PostLonestar1771, on 06 February 2013 - 07:51 AM, said:

What I really want: ZEUS!!™

What I think we're going to get: ZEUS!!™

What I really don't want: Anything not a ZEUS!!™

What i want more then all else: The Highlander to be in game. (Thought I was gonna say ZEUS!!™, didn't you?)



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