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Posted 22 February 2014 - 06:28 PM

View PostCybermech, on 22 February 2014 - 06:04 PM, said:

can't wait to see the mauler..

Same here. Unless they totally reimagine it, it's gonna be BLOATED. pot belly, Massive Shoulder stacks. No XL for you! Meaning good luck doing anything useful with the ballistics. I could be wrong, but seriously, before people beg, have they even remotely thought about the hit boxes?

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 06:39 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 22 February 2014 - 06:28 PM, said:

Same here. Unless they totally reimagine it, it's gonna be BLOATED. pot belly, Massive Shoulder stacks. No XL for you! Meaning good luck doing anything useful with the ballistics. I could be wrong, but seriously, before people beg, have they even remotely thought about the hit boxes?

4x LB-X!
2 Gauss + 2 ER PPCs!

Mauler is the ultimate glass cannon.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 06:47 PM

I hope it doesn't look like this with the giant smoke stacksPosted Image

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 06:49 PM

What they will do...?

View PostOdanan, on 14 November 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

3 "variants" for the Mauler (probably too powerful, tough):

Mauler MAL-1R
XL Engine, Ferro Fibrous

RA 1x ER Large Laser (2x Energy Hardpoints)
RT 2x AC/2, 1x LRM15 (2x Ballistic Hardpoints, 1x Missile Hardpoint)
CT -
H -
LT 2x AC/2, 1x LRM15 (2x Ballistic Hardpoints, 1x Missile Hardpoint)
LA 1x ER Large Laser (2x Energy Hardpoints)

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Mauler DCMS-MX90-D (Daboku)

RA 1x Large Laser (1x Energy Hardpoint)
RT 2x AC/2, 1x LRM10 (3x Ballistic Hardpoints, 1x Missile Hardpoint)
CT -
H -
LT 2x AC/2, 1x LRM10 (3x Ballistic Hardpoints, 1x Missile Hardpoint)
LA 1x Large Laser (1x Energy Hardpoint)

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Mauler MAL-1PT5 (Linesman)

RA 1x Medium Laser (1x Energy Hardpoint)
RT 2x AC/2, 1x LRM15 (2x Ballistic Hardpoints, 2x Missile Hardpoints)
CT -
H -
LT 2x AC/2, 1x LRM15 (2x Ballistic Hardpoints, 2x Missile Hardpoints)
LA 1x Medium Laser (1x Energy Hardpoint)

PGI, please?


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 06:55 PM

Something like this?

View Postharuko, on 11 November 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

I made a Mauler at the request of my corp mates yesterday, it was a quick job so I didn't give it unique legs so sorry about that, but I'm sharing it anyway! Gonna keep it brief though since I have to run off somewhere:
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Posted 22 February 2014 - 07:15 PM

View PostOdanan, on 22 February 2014 - 06:55 PM, said:

Something like this?
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even that has hitboxes that make the Awesome look svelte.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 02:20 AM

Thrilled to see more IS mechs coming...

But for March, I am banking on the banshee!

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 02:23 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 22 February 2014 - 07:15 PM, said:

even that has hitboxes that make the Awesome look svelte.

Considering those hardpoints, I think is fair.

View PostTkhaw, on 23 February 2014 - 02:20 AM, said:

Thrilled to see more IS mechs coming...

But for March, I am banking on the banshee!

Really exciting times!

Banshee -> Javelin -> Vindicator -> Lancelot -> Mauler ?

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 03:49 AM

View PostOdanan, on 23 February 2014 - 02:23 AM, said:

Considering those hardpoints, I think is fair.


Really exciting times!

Banshee -> Javelin -> Vindicator -> Lancelot -> Mauler ?


Vindicator I like ;)

Heavy group: both lancelot and champion would be great

Light: javelin /dervish?

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 03:54 AM

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Soon in the game:

- new Assault mech (March)
- Wolverine, 55 tons medium mech (17 December for Phoenix Project, 18 March May March? for C-Bills.
- new IS mech? (April)
- Uller, 30 tons light mech (17 June)
​- new IS mech? (June)

Hey Odanan, you forgot
- new IS mech? (May)


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Really exciting times!

Banshee -> Javelin -> Vindicator -> Lancelot -> Mauler ?

I still hope for the Zeus being the next assault after the March one.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 06:33 AM

In the NGNG 103 podcast they had Bryan on again. He said they intend to release the Clan mechs 1 at a time so the Uller in June for C-bills. However they currently also intend on releasing new IS chassis along with a Clan every month. They intend to do this as long as economics permit (meaning it's profitable for them to do so).

As far as any hints on the next mech he didn't say. But there was a hint we may go back to the old style system of Light>medium>heavy>assault.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 08:18 AM

View PostOdanan, on 23 February 2014 - 02:23 AM, said:

Considering those hardpoints, I think is fair.


You might. I might. The legions drooling at the thought of their "Ultimate" Assault Mech will howl like gelded surats. The concept of trade offs does not occur to most gamers.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 09:38 AM

So... Mauler. Well, if we're getting designs which were new when the 3050+ era tech readouts started coming out I always kinda had a soft spot for the...

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... Daikyu! ;)

Of course, it apparently has a production year of 3055, so I guess we won't see it for a while, but I'd get one. Heck, I'd even consider buying a hero version, and look, Sarna says there's one available, the DAI-01 Daikyu Tabitha piloted by Tabitha McBane of Lindon's Battalion. I just always liked the look of the Daikyu. Kinda elegant looking despite being a 70 tonner. Would probably have a slim profile from the front, but significantly bigger from the side.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 09:42 AM

I'm very curious about the variants tough... will they use the Daboku and the Linesman as 2nd and 3rd variants? Or will they drop the XP system?

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 09:44 AM

Doubt they'll drop the XP system. It's too ingrained by now in the way this game works. Maybe they'll make some of their own variants, the way they have with Hero mechs?

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 09:49 AM

View PostSteinar Bergstol, on 23 February 2014 - 09:38 AM, said:

So... Mauler. Well, if we're getting designs which were new when the 3050+ era tech readouts started coming out I always kinda had a soft spot for the...

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... Daikyu! ;)

Of course, it apparently has a production year of 3055, so I guess we won't see it for a while, but I'd get one. Heck, I'd even consider buying a hero version, and look, Sarna says there's one available, the DAI-01 Daikyu Tabitha piloted by Tabitha McBane of Lindon's Battalion. I just always liked the look of the Daikyu. Kinda elegant looking despite being a 70 tonner. Would probably have a slim profile from the front, but significantly bigger from the side.

dem arms ain't blocking nothing, thats for sure! Hope it doesn't need an XL!

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 10:09 AM

It's a 3055 design. Of course they gave it XL. A 350 XL. And CASE. Yep, it's one of those mechs with the protective item which ain't a protective item unless you're playing in an RPG or a longterm campaign. ;) Got an ER PPC and 2 UAC-5 in the arms and an LRM5 and a Medium Laser in the torso, runs 86,4 kph, Endo Steel and 11 DHS already included in the base design and 12 tons of standard armor.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 02:25 PM

View PostSteinar Bergstol, on 23 February 2014 - 09:44 AM, said:

Doubt they'll drop the XP system. It's too ingrained by now in the way this game works. Maybe they'll make some of their own variants, the way they have with Hero mechs?

Well, even under current system, all they'll really have to do to include mech with two variants is increasing XP cost for skill unlocks by 50%. Or just double them for chassis with only one viable variant.

There, problem solved ;)

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 02:26 PM

View Postssm, on 23 February 2014 - 02:25 PM, said:

Well, even under current system, all they'll really have to do to include mech with two variants is increasing XP cost for skill unlocks by 50%. Or just double them for chassis with only one viable variant.

There, problem solved ;)

been advocating this since Closed Beta.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 02:56 PM

The thing is: they will avoid chassis with only one variant for economic reasons. It might not be worthy to have the trouble to add them.
So I guess they will bring the semi-canonical low tech Mauler variants. I'm OK with that!

Edited by Odanan, 23 February 2014 - 02:59 PM.






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